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Proof of Cyberstalking & OBSESSION

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JanD - 28 Jan 2006 20:34 GMT
 (words of Richard H Jacobson)

 Beware of Jan Drew, Stalker

 Jan Drew 18 times

 Earth To Jan Drew

 Jan Drew (6 times)

 Re: MHA Contest: Claims that Jan Drew Cannot Back Up

 Jan Drew (5 times)

 (Under the same thread)

 Poor Jan. This thread is about Jan Drew's false claims. Thanx for
 playing Jan. You lose.

 Notice that Jan Drew cannot dispute a single claim that she made that
 she cannot back up. And she cannot use as an excuse that she did not
 read them.

 Claims that Jan DRew CAnnot Back Up.
 Unless Richard H Jacobson is really Jan Drew he is not the subject of
 this thread. Cue Jan to start a new thread with claims that Rich
 cannot back up. Just watch.

 Jan Drew is trying to disrupt this thread. Contestants, just ignore
 her and keep her unbacked claims coming. Maybe after we reach a
 hundred unbacked claims by Jan DRew she will realize what a hypocrite
 and liar she is. OTOH it may take a thousand unbacked claims.
 Fortunately Jan Drew is a never ending source of unbacked claims.

 Jan Drew claimed that a specific doctor lost his license to practice.

 Jan Drew said that the reason

 Jan Drew said:

 Jan Drew NEVER

 that Jan Drew is

 Jan Drew claimed

 from Jan Drew

 Jan Drew repeatedly

 Jan DRew

 Re: LIAR Alert!

 Jan Drew  (32 times)

 The Hypocrisy of Jan Drew

 Jan Drew (4 times)

 Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

 JanD wrote:

 LadyLollipop wrote:

 Jdrew63929@aol.com

 (All diversions)

 Looks Like Someone Struck A Nerve With Jan Drew

 Jan should

 Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

 On 09 May 2004 03:10:30 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

 >>>>I wish for you a good dose of mercury poisoning, peripheral neuropathy
and
 >>>>migraine headaches.

 ( still posting that being the despicable cyberstalking he is, NOT posting
where I said I did say it and it was wrong, OVERLOOKING all the wishing of
disabilites his buddy posted, proving he is a hypocrite)

 Jan still

 Jan said

 Didn't Jan

 Re: Cyberstalking Alert!

 Jan Drew (51 times)

 (or Jan DRew)

 Jan Drew On Selective Believing

 Jan Drew and Jan

 Re: More nonsense

 Jan Drew (3 times)

 Re: Bless

 Jan should  (3 times)

 (That becuase I showed where he lost his temper, he though it was nuked)

 Coleah apparently scored a direct hit!

 Jan Drew, Proven Anti-semite.

 >> Jan Drew is desperate to call me a liar

 >> Jan Drew Cannot Keep Her Lies and Anti-semitism Straight

 >> ==========

 >> Every single one of these titles proves:

 >> Then when his lies are exposed, he changes the subject title

 >> Proving once again.

 >> Genesis 27:19-20, 24. Jacob had to lie again to cover up his first lie

 >> =======

 >> Poor pathetic, Rich, foaming at the mouth, talking out of both sides.

 >> But you would never hear Jan make a comment like "Steven Bornfeld is a
 >> real Jewish gentleman"

 >> ( that's correct, as this is the FIRST time, I have ever heard that
Steve
 >> was a Jew, and it matters NOT, Steve is ALWAYS a *gentleman*) GOD BLESS
 >> STEVE!

 >> She reserves the use of identifying someone as Jewish when she wants
 >> to attack them. She does this because she is an anti-semite who has a
 >> deep seated hatred for Jews.

 >> Poor, poor Rich!

 >> It has been over two thousand years since Jesus was crucified and Jan
 >> Drew still cannot forgive the Jews who were involved

 >> Richard H Jacobson knows who I cannot forgive? Does he think he is GOD?

 >> And she ridicules Mark P for not accepting the religious
 >> beliefs of the Jews for Jesus

 >> Oh? Do wonder if Richard can show us WHERE I did this?

 >> Let's cover a few other lies today.

 >> See how the story changes.

 >> What was the substantive change? I did not use the exact words and Jan
 >> accuses me of changing the story. She really is desperate.

 >> Poor, pathetic, Rich goes into a rant, changes the subject title when
his
 >> lies are exposed.

 >> The changes are VERY  clear!

 >> ***She claimed that ALL her feet pain went away****

 >> *****because all her foot pain was gone******

 >> *******with no foot pain*********

 >> Don't believe Jan Drew. She is a psychopathic liar

 >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

 >> She claimed that *ALL* her feet pain went away

 >> she went from being *bedridden* to going out line dancing.

 >> (oops, wait a minute, Rich can't keeps his lies straight, he also LIED
 >> and
 >> claimed I was bedridden the how many days *BEFORE* I had my amalgams
 >> removed?)

 >> Jan Drew knows that what I have said above is true

 >> (poor, pathetic, Richard H Jacobson (WHO LIES ABOUT HIS NAME) thinks he
 >> is
 >> GOD and knows what *I* know is true!)

 >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

 >> On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing

 >> >because all her foot pain was gone

 >> (that's right TWO LIES in the same post!)

 >> pathologic liar Jan Drew knows it.

 >> >This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a
 >> >liar and a stalker. Jan Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she
 >> >refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being whose sole
 >> >purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate
 >> >the lie that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and
 >> >the proof is in her own words.
 >> >Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead
 >> >she will pretend she is not reading them and then personally attack me
 >> >in order to discredit me. Or she will continue her stalking of me by
 >> >posting what she thinks is my name, address and phone number. Just
 >> >watch.
 >> >Aloha,
 >> >Rich

 >> ========

 >> What I ACTUALLY SAID!

 >> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
 >>       From: jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) - Find messages by this
 >> author
 >>       Date: 1999/06/26
 >>       Subject: Re: Chronic constipation

 >> [snipping to the point in question]

 >> THANK GOD, my feet didn't hurt!

 >> ==========

 >> Further LIES from Rich.

 >>  When Jan Drew was asked if she was a devout Christian she remained
 >> silent

 >> JDrew63929" <jdrew63...@aol.com>

 >> From Happy Dog

 >> Jan, please tell us where this quote is from.  Revelations?  Is it in
 >> your
 >> bible?  You are supporting it so I assume you're sure that it comes
from
 > the
 >> bible.  So tell us where.  I can't find it.  But since you're the
devout
 >> Christian, you must be able to. erf

 >> >> First of all I have never said I was a devout Christian.
 >> >OK.  You aren't a devout Christian.  Thanks for clearing that up'
 >> >You're welcome, however you snipped, I try, but God ain't done with me
 > yet.

 >> ==========

 >> Oops, Jan says it does not matter what a person's religion is but she
 >> identified some Jews here.

 >> Note the twisting Rich has stated things, I have not said.

 >> Poor, pathetic, Rich.

 >> When Jan was asked to identify those who have stated that they were
Jews
 > she
 >> was silent

 >> There is NOT a group here that have identified themselves as Jewish.

 >> Poor, pathetic, LYING Richard H Jacobson!

 >> Jan determines in her mind who is Jewish

 >> WOW!!!

 >> Jan Drew thinks that Catholics who pray to Saints are being led by
Satan.

 >> Richard H Jacobson is a despicable sick man, OBSESSED with Jan, he has
a
 >> PROVEN pattern of BADGERING, of *any* person who ever claimed success
 > using
 >> alternative medicine.  He once stated:

 >> Probably the best way to debunk these claims is to demonstrate that the
 >> person
 >> making the claim is lying.

 >> In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron saint of lost

 >> >causes, that something will happen that prevents Jan from posting in
 >> >this
 >> >newsgroup since praying that she will change would take more than a
 >> >miracle.
 >> >Aloha,

 >>  Rich

 >> >Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered. However I believe

 >> that there is justice in this world and soon my prayers will be
 >> answered. I am patient.

 >> 2001

 >> >MHA is a discussion group to discuss alternative health modalities. I
 >> >choose to
 >> >discuss the issue of whether Jan Drew actually had mercury poisoning.

 >> Aloha,

 >>  Rich

 >> The pattern of badgering that Richard thinks he has nuked that started
 >> before I ever posted.

 >> http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

 >> http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl

 >> http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc

 >> http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf

 Re:Liar Alert!

 Jan Drew ( 3 times)

 Re: Kevin Trudeau on 20-20

 according to Jan

 Cue Jan

 Jan Drew when

 My pleasure. But how much respect can I give to someone who endlessly
 tries to discuss topics with Jan Drew when she obviously cannot
 discuss anything and then repeats thousands of lines of her abusive
 posts in the process? Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does.

 Jan is just a seriously disturbed insecure angry intolerant woman who
 has absolutely no insight into her behavior and blames everyone under
 the sun for her problems. Cue Jan to call me a liar as she does not
 even know everyone under the sun. Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue
 Jan to say that the subject is not Jan.

 Jan Drew realizes

 Jan Drew is

 Jan is

 She is

 her rage

 She may ( 4 times)

 her become

  Is Mark the subject of this thread? I thought NOT Jan!!!

 Re: Pitiful Attempt to Badger

 Susan, Jan flames nearly everyone with whom she disagrees especially
 if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

  She will also flame those who don't attack the people that she does
 not like especially if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

 It is pretty pointless to try to get Jan Drew to change. Or had you
 not noticed?

 Jan is a very bitter and angry woman who harbors great resentments and
 grudges. If you are on her sh.t list be prepared to be harassed. If
 you want to get off her sh.t list you need to do more than just be
 nice to her. You have to join her "bash the gang" bandwagon and tell
 her how she is a wonderful and loving Christian lady who is being
 inappropriately attacked by a gang of lying Jews and atheists.

 Re: More blathering

 Jan Drew (2 times)

  Re: Rich Shewmaker Is So Predictable

 On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
 JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
rich.@, - 28 Jan 2006 20:38 GMT
<snip Jan's obsession>

Insert PROOF of Jan Drew's STALKING:

Jan Drew has been using Google search in order to get personal
information about me.

Believing that she knew my real name she did a Google search and found
what she believed to be my business address and phone number. She then
repeatedly posted this address and phone number in order to harass me.

But her stalking behavior did not stop there.

Jan Drew then admitted that she tried to call that number. She said
that the number was no longer in operation.

Her stalking did not stop there.

She then admitted to calling someone at the same business address to
ask about the person she believed to be me.

When she could not get any information about the person she believed
to be me she then made up a lie about that doctor losing his license.

Imagine that. A Christian bearing false witness, lying, libeling a
doctor. But Jan DRew is a psychopath and she does not care if she
lies, bears false witness or libels others.

And Jan Drew's response is for me and others to prove that the doctor
who she believes to be me did not lose his license.

But it did not stop there. Jan Drew also posted Mark Lowry MD's
business address and phone number in this newsgroup. She then called
someone to complain about Mark MD.

Jan DRew cannot deal with people who expose her lies, bigotry and
hypocrisy. She handles it by stalking these people. And then she
wonders why posts are nuked.

Notice how Jan continues to try to expose what she believes to be my
real name. Her desire is to harass and intimidate those who expose her
lies, bigotry and hypocrisy.

Jan Drew will not explain why she kept posting what she believed to be
my name, business address and phone number.

Jan DRew will not explain why she tried to call that number.

Jan DRew will not explain why she called another number at the same
business address to ask about the person she believed to be me.

And finally Jan Drew will not explain why she bore false witness and
libeled the doctor she believed to be me by saying that he lost his
license.

Jan Drew will not explain any of the above because she knows that she
is a despicable liar, bigot and hypocrite who can only call people
liars and cut and paste the comments of others while failing to
provide any original thought.

And Jan Drew would never have admitted to trying to call a person she
believed to be me if she did not think that she had information that
she thought could be hurtful to me. You see Jan wants to hurt people
that expose her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry.

And of course the way Jan Drew will deal with this post will be to
start a post "Beware Of Rich, Stalker".  She does this I think because
in her mind that completely neutralizes my post.

Now that I have said she will do this she will likely start a new
thread with another title attacking me. Now that I have said that she
will probably get very frustrated that I anticipated what she will do.
Maybe she will drink more to deal with her frustration. You see Jan
Drew hates it when someone predicts her next action which is so
predictable.

Readers of mha be warned. If you use your real name and expose Jan
Drew's lies, hypocrisy and bigotry there is a good chance that Jan
will use Google to determine your address and phone number and call
either you or someone you might know in order to harass. Jan Drew is
not a Christian. She is a liar, bigot, and hypocrite. True Christians
are none of the above.

Aloha,

Rich
-------------------------------------------------
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
JanD - 28 Jan 2006 22:37 GMT
Additonal Proof of Cyberstalking , OBSESSION & LIES.

*Believing that she knew my real name.*

Rich ,@. wrote in news:khcbeusflte8j1bpsr6ltdva9r1s4jd8o8@4ax.com:> On
> Sat, 18 May 2002 01:29:42 GMT

>>ilena@san.rr.com (Ilena Rose) wrote: In

> article4t8beu4ufu8n24vblsrpdkubhoj93tt...@4ax.com

>>, Rich ,@. wrote: Are you sure my name is Richard Jacobson??
ilena>Is it or isn't it?
>> > Negative. Does this mean that I don't have to agree to Jan's request to
cease and desist??  Of course her request presumes that I have been
> stalking and harassing her.

>>It is kind of like asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife.

> But I do think that this is a very important lesson for people who post
> here. They should not reveal their real name unless they are prepared for
> various net  loons such as Jan, Debbee, and Ilena who would use such
> information to harass people in their private lives.

>> Jan has already done so by posting someone's name, address and phone
>> number.

> Ilena has also allegedly contacted someone's wife through email. And
> Debbee  has attempted to find out my real identity by asking  about RM
> Jacobson.

>JD  Hmmmmmm. No mention of Mark Thorson posting a private phone number and
>address,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Rich is certainly selective.

>> > I am grateful for one thing; that Richard Jacobson is not my real name.

> Unfortunately the Richard Jacobson that DOES live in Hawaii may not be too
> happy with my assuming his name for purposes of the internet especially
> given  the recent events.  He happens to live on a different island from
> me. I do plan  to contact him to let him know that someone may try to
> harass him since he is  listed in the phone book.

> Aloha, Rich

> Hiking The Kalalau Trail

> Richard Jacobson (r...@cris.com) Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:27:34 -0500 (EST)
> Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message:
> Jand...@aol.com: "Florida hike" Previous message: L. Barry Rinehart: "Se
> 'Ya"

>>Hawaii's premier backpacking trail, the Kalalau Trail on the island of

> Kauai still remains closed past Hanakoa due to the reconstruction of the
> trail near "crawler's ridge". Estimated date of completion is Mid May.
> Until then, camping will only be permitted in Hanakapiai and Hanakoa
> Valleys. I for one am anxious to have Kalalau open again. It has to be one
> of the finest trails in the world.

> Aloha, Rich ------------------------
> ------------------------
> Richard H. Jacobson Always remember to put Horace before Descarte

Richard H Jacobson is psychopath and he does not care if he
lies, bears false witness or libels others.

Such as:

She then called someone to complain about Mark MD.

Richard H Jacobson cannot deal with people who expose his lies,
cbyerstaking,
hypocrisy, proven pattern of badgering and obsessing.

>  (words of Richard H Jacobson)

Proof of Cyberstalking & OBSESSION

Jan Drew ( 16 times)

she knew

she did

She said

She then ( 3 times)

she believed ( 4 times)

she could

she does

she believes ( 2 times)

she wonders

Jan continues

She handles

she kept

she tried

she called

she bore

she knows

she is

she will ( 3 times)

she thought

Jan wants

Jan will

>  Beware of Jan Drew, Stalker
>
[quoted text clipped - 398 lines]
>  On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
>  JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
rich.@, - 28 Jan 2006 22:58 GMT
>Additonal Proof of Cyberstalking , OBSESSION & LIES.
>
>*Believing that she knew my real name.*

<snip Jan Drew again trying to reveal what she believes to be my real
name proving that she is a stalker>

Obviously Jan Drew thinks that she knows my real name. Knowing that I
prefer to remain anonymous due to her stalking behavior Jan Drew
persists in trying to reveal it. By trying to reveal what she thinks
is my real name she proves that she is stalking me.

But what adds to the proof of her stalking is her admission that she
called what she believed to be my business number and failing to reach
me, then called someone at the same address to ask about the person
she believes to be me.

Jan Drew does not realize that what she is doing is proving that SHE
is the cyberstalker and the one obsessed.

Have I EVER posted personal information about Jan Drew? No
Have I EVER tried to find her address and phone number? No
Have I EVER tried to dial her number? No.

And yet Jan Drew continues to call *me* a cyberstalker. What a
complete hypocrite. She cannot take responsibility for HER stalking
behavior.

Has Jan Drew explained why she tried to call what she thought was my
number? No.
Has Jan Drew explained why she called someone else and asked about the
person she believed to be me? No.
Has Jan Drew explained why she lied about the doctor losing his
license? No.

Jan Drew admits to using the internet to get personal information
about me and believing she had it to telephone me and others for the
purpose of harassment. Stalking does not get any more obvious.

She also has used the internet to get personal information about Mark
Lowry MD and then posted this information in this newsgroup. She then
contacted someone to complain about him. She essentially stalked Mark
Lowry. Jan Drew has a pattern of stalking.

Jan Drew is obviously a very disturbed individual. How else to explain
her using the internet to get personal information and then to try to
call the person. How else to explain her lying about a doctor losing
his license because she thought that doctor was me and wanted to hurt
me. Jan Drew is guilty of lying, bearing false witness, stalking and
libeling.

And finally my post is certainly on topic since the title of the
thread is Proof Of Cyberstalking and Obsession. Jan Drew fits this
description to a T. The irony is that she is accusing me of what she
is obviously guilty.

Aloha,

Rich

PS: Cue Jan to not answer ANY of the questions in this message. Cue
Jan to continue to try to reveal what she thinks is my real name even
though I have clearly said I want to remain anonymous due to HER
stalking behavior. Just watch.

-------------------------------------------------
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Harleygyrl A Bikerchyck - 29 Jan 2006 01:05 GMT
what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??
   (words of Richard H Jacobson)

   Beware of Jan Drew, Stalker

   Jan Drew 18 times

   Earth To Jan Drew

   Jan Drew (6 times)

   Re: MHA Contest: Claims that Jan Drew Cannot Back Up

   Jan Drew (5 times)

   (Under the same thread)

   Poor Jan. This thread is about Jan Drew's false claims. Thanx for
   playing Jan. You lose.

   Notice that Jan Drew cannot dispute a single claim that she made that
   she cannot back up. And she cannot use as an excuse that she did not
   read them.

   Claims that Jan DRew CAnnot Back Up.
   Unless Richard H Jacobson is really Jan Drew he is not the subject of
   this thread. Cue Jan to start a new thread with claims that Rich
   cannot back up. Just watch.

   Jan Drew is trying to disrupt this thread. Contestants, just ignore
   her and keep her unbacked claims coming. Maybe after we reach a
   hundred unbacked claims by Jan DRew she will realize what a hypocrite
   and liar she is. OTOH it may take a thousand unbacked claims.
   Fortunately Jan Drew is a never ending source of unbacked claims.

   Jan Drew claimed that a specific doctor lost his license to practice.

   Jan Drew said that the reason

   Jan Drew said:

   Jan Drew NEVER

   that Jan Drew is

   Jan Drew claimed

   from Jan Drew

   Jan Drew repeatedly

   Jan DRew

   Re: LIAR Alert!

   Jan Drew  (32 times)

   The Hypocrisy of Jan Drew

   Jan Drew (4 times)

   Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

   LadyLollipop wrote:

   Jdrew63929@aol.com

   (All diversions)

   Looks Like Someone Struck A Nerve With Jan Drew

   Jan should

   Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

   On 09 May 2004 03:10:30 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

   >>>>I wish for you a good dose of mercury poisoning, peripheral neuropathy
 and
   >>>>migraine headaches.

   ( still posting that being the despicable cyberstalking he is, NOT posting
 where I said I did say it and it was wrong, OVERLOOKING all the wishing of
 disabilites his buddy posted, proving he is a hypocrite)

   Jan still

   Jan said

   Didn't Jan

   Re: Cyberstalking Alert!

   Jan Drew (51 times)

   (or Jan DRew)

   Jan Drew On Selective Believing

   Jan Drew and Jan

   Re: More nonsense

   Jan Drew (3 times)

   Re: Bless

   Jan should  (3 times)

   (That becuase I showed where he lost his temper, he though it was nuked)

   Coleah apparently scored a direct hit!

   Jan Drew, Proven Anti-semite.

   >> Jan Drew is desperate to call me a liar

   >> Jan Drew Cannot Keep Her Lies and Anti-semitism Straight

   >> ==========

   >> Every single one of these titles proves:

   >> Then when his lies are exposed, he changes the subject title

   >> Proving once again.

   >> Genesis 27:19-20, 24. Jacob had to lie again to cover up his first lie

   >> =======

   >> Poor pathetic, Rich, foaming at the mouth, talking out of both sides.

   >> But you would never hear Jan make a comment like "Steven Bornfeld is a
   >> real Jewish gentleman"

   >> ( that's correct, as this is the FIRST time, I have ever heard that
 Steve
   >> was a Jew, and it matters NOT, Steve is ALWAYS a *gentleman*) GOD BLESS
   >> STEVE!

   >> She reserves the use of identifying someone as Jewish when she wants
   >> to attack them. She does this because she is an anti-semite who has a
   >> deep seated hatred for Jews.

   >> Poor, poor Rich!

   >> It has been over two thousand years since Jesus was crucified and Jan
   >> Drew still cannot forgive the Jews who were involved

   >> Richard H Jacobson knows who I cannot forgive? Does he think he is GOD?

   >> And she ridicules Mark P for not accepting the religious
   >> beliefs of the Jews for Jesus

   >> Oh? Do wonder if Richard can show us WHERE I did this?

   >> Let's cover a few other lies today.

   >> See how the story changes.

   >> What was the substantive change? I did not use the exact words and Jan
   >> accuses me of changing the story. She really is desperate.

   >> Poor, pathetic, Rich goes into a rant, changes the subject title when
 his
   >> lies are exposed.

   >> The changes are VERY  clear!

   >> ***She claimed that ALL her feet pain went away****

   >> *****because all her foot pain was gone******

   >> *******with no foot pain*********

   >> Don't believe Jan Drew. She is a psychopathic liar

   >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

   >> She claimed that *ALL* her feet pain went away

   >> she went from being *bedridden* to going out line dancing.

   >> (oops, wait a minute, Rich can't keeps his lies straight, he also LIED
   >> and
   >> claimed I was bedridden the how many days *BEFORE* I had my amalgams
   >> removed?)

   >> Jan Drew knows that what I have said above is true

   >> (poor, pathetic, Richard H Jacobson (WHO LIES ABOUT HIS NAME) thinks he
   >> is
   >> GOD and knows what *I* know is true!)

   >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

   >> On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing

   >> >because all her foot pain was gone

   >> (that's right TWO LIES in the same post!)

   >> pathologic liar Jan Drew knows it.

   >> >This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a
   >> >liar and a stalker. Jan Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she
   >> >refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being whose sole
   >> >purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate
   >> >the lie that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and
   >> >the proof is in her own words.
   >> >Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead
   >> >she will pretend she is not reading them and then personally attack me
   >> >in order to discredit me. Or she will continue her stalking of me by
   >> >posting what she thinks is my name, address and phone number. Just
   >> >watch.
   >> >Aloha,
   >> >Rich

   >> ========

   >> What I ACTUALLY SAID!

   >> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
   >>       From: jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) - Find messages by this
   >> author
   >>       Date: 1999/06/26
   >>       Subject: Re: Chronic constipation

   >> [snipping to the point in question]

   >> THANK GOD, my feet didn't hurt!

   >> ==========

   >> Further LIES from Rich.

   >>  When Jan Drew was asked if she was a devout Christian she remained
   >> silent

   >> JDrew63929" <jdrew63...@aol.com>

   >> From Happy Dog

   >> Jan, please tell us where this quote is from.  Revelations?  Is it in
   >> your
   >> bible?  You are supporting it so I assume you're sure that it comes
 from
   > the
   >> bible.  So tell us where.  I can't find it.  But since you're the
 devout
   >> Christian, you must be able to. erf

   >> >> First of all I have never said I was a devout Christian.
   >> >OK.  You aren't a devout Christian.  Thanks for clearing that up'
   >> >You're welcome, however you snipped, I try, but God ain't done with me
   > yet.

   >> ==========

   >> Oops, Jan says it does not matter what a person's religion is but she
   >> identified some Jews here.

   >> Note the twisting Rich has stated things, I have not said.

   >> Poor, pathetic, Rich.

   >> When Jan was asked to identify those who have stated that they were
 Jews
   > she
   >> was silent

   >> There is NOT a group here that have identified themselves as Jewish.

   >> Poor, pathetic, LYING Richard H Jacobson!

   >> Jan determines in her mind who is Jewish

   >> WOW!!!

   >> Jan Drew thinks that Catholics who pray to Saints are being led by
 Satan.

   >> Richard H Jacobson is a despicable sick man, OBSESSED with Jan, he has
 a
   >> PROVEN pattern of BADGERING, of *any* person who ever claimed success
   > using
   >> alternative medicine.  He once stated:

   >> Probably the best way to debunk these claims is to demonstrate that the
   >> person
   >> making the claim is lying.

   >> In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron saint of lost

   >> >causes, that something will happen that prevents Jan from posting in
   >> >this
   >> >newsgroup since praying that she will change would take more than a
   >> >miracle.
   >> >Aloha,

   >>  Rich

   >> >Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered. However I believe

   >> that there is justice in this world and soon my prayers will be
   >> answered. I am patient.

   >> 2001

   >> >MHA is a discussion group to discuss alternative health modalities. I
   >> >choose to
   >> >discuss the issue of whether Jan Drew actually had mercury poisoning.

   >> Aloha,

   >>  Rich

   >> The pattern of badgering that Richard thinks he has nuked that started
   >> before I ever posted.

   >> http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

   >> http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl

   >> http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc

   >> http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf

   Re:Liar Alert!

   Jan Drew ( 3 times)

   Re: Kevin Trudeau on 20-20

   according to Jan

   Cue Jan

   Jan Drew when

   My pleasure. But how much respect can I give to someone who endlessly
   tries to discuss topics with Jan Drew when she obviously cannot
   discuss anything and then repeats thousands of lines of her abusive
   posts in the process? Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does.

   Jan is just a seriously disturbed insecure angry intolerant woman who
   has absolutely no insight into her behavior and blames everyone under
   the sun for her problems. Cue Jan to call me a liar as she does not
   even know everyone under the sun. Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue
   Jan to say that the subject is not Jan.

   Jan Drew realizes

   Jan Drew is

   Jan is

   She is

   her rage

   She may ( 4 times)

   her become

    Is Mark the subject of this thread? I thought NOT Jan!!!

   Re: Pitiful Attempt to Badger

   Susan, Jan flames nearly everyone with whom she disagrees especially
   if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

    She will also flame those who don't attack the people that she does
   not like especially if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

   It is pretty pointless to try to get Jan Drew to change. Or had you
   not noticed?

   Jan is a very bitter and angry woman who harbors great resentments and
   grudges. If you are on her sh.t list be prepared to be harassed. If
   you want to get off her sh.t list you need to do more than just be
   nice to her. You have to join her "bash the gang" bandwagon and tell
   her how she is a wonderful and loving Christian lady who is being
   inappropriately attacked by a gang of lying Jews and atheists.

   Re: More blathering

   Jan Drew (2 times)

    Re: Rich Shewmaker Is So Predictable

   On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
   JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
Mark Probert - 29 Jan 2006 03:22 GMT
> what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??

Jan is a well known net stalker who has contacted employers, and other
people outside of Usenet. She posts private addresses and personal
information. She supports contacting spouses of posters in order to
silence them.

Jan HATES the First Amendment, Jews, Atheists, Catholics, and anyone who
does not sit in her pew.

You would be wise not to ever let her have any personal information.

>     (words of Richard H Jacobson)
>
[quoted text clipped - 389 lines]
>     On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
>     JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
JanD - 29 Jan 2006 04:18 GMT
"Mark Probert Wrote:

<snip>

>>     (words of Richard H Jacobson)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 428 lines]
>>     On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
>>     JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
Mark Probert - 29 Jan 2006 16:44 GMT
> "Mark Probert Wrote:
>
> <snip>

Restored:

Jan is a well known net stalker who has contacted employers, and other
people outside of Usenet. She posts private addresses and personal
information. She supports contacting spouses of posters in order to
silence them.

Jan HATES the First Amendment, Jews, Atheists, Catholics, and anyone who
does not sit in her pew.

You would be wise not to ever let her have any personal information.

I left out the fact that Jan will snip anything that accurately
describes her behavior. She demands from others what she is unwilling to
do herself. She has various tactics:

1. She snips to change meaning.
2. She cuts and pastes in a manner which is designed to derail and
confuse the discussion.
3. She will not post her own words, but, instead, posts URLs which may
or may not, be responsive to the issues being discussed. If you question
her, she will post more URLs.
4. She links a person's religion to whether they are truthful.
5. When you ask her a tough question about her antics, she will ignore
it for a while, and then say she answered it. When you ask for the URL
of the post where she answered it, she says that you should look it up.
6. She begins threads with people's name in the subject line. These
threads are feebly designed to try to humiliate the person.
7. If you disagree with her, she calls you a liar.
8. She does not read the full URL of anything you post that refutes what
she says.
9. She tries to derail discussion by making personal attacks on the
messenger.
10. She often combines her tactics.
11. There are a lot more.

An excellent example of her overall behavior was in the recent thread
where John Stossell had a 20-20 article on the fraud Gary Trudeau.
Stossell had two people on...Stephen Barrett, M.D. of Quackwatch and Dr.
Sidney Wolfe.

Jan started a new thread where she was trashing Stossell (a URL attack).
Even assuming that Stossell is all that she said he is, and the fact
that she hates Barrett, she had not comment on Dr. Wolfe. Why? Because
she is smart enough to know that she cannot trash Dr. Wolfe.

So, she trashed the others.

Pure diversion.

I hope this explains Jan Drew to you.
Peter Bowditch - 29 Jan 2006 13:13 GMT
>> what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Jan HATES the First Amendment, Jews, Atheists, Catholics, and anyone who
>does not sit in her pew.

I would give short odds that you could add Harleys and biker chicks to that list.
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JanD - 29 Jan 2006 04:31 GMT
 what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??

 Look it up under Proof Jan Drew lied about having mercury poisoning.

 Be prepared to read for quite some time.
   "JanD" <JanD@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:lzQCf.518011$084.291115@attbi_s22...
     (words of Richard H Jacobson)

     Beware of Jan Drew, Stalker

     Jan Drew 18 times

     Earth To Jan Drew

     Jan Drew (6 times)

     Re: MHA Contest: Claims that Jan Drew Cannot Back Up

     Jan Drew (5 times)

     (Under the same thread)

     Poor Jan. This thread is about Jan Drew's false claims. Thanx for
     playing Jan. You lose.

     Notice that Jan Drew cannot dispute a single claim that she made that
     she cannot back up. And she cannot use as an excuse that she did not
     read them.

     Claims that Jan DRew CAnnot Back Up.
     Unless Richard H Jacobson is really Jan Drew he is not the subject of
     this thread. Cue Jan to start a new thread with claims that Rich
     cannot back up. Just watch.

     Jan Drew is trying to disrupt this thread. Contestants, just ignore
     her and keep her unbacked claims coming. Maybe after we reach a
     hundred unbacked claims by Jan DRew she will realize what a hypocrite
     and liar she is. OTOH it may take a thousand unbacked claims.
     Fortunately Jan Drew is a never ending source of unbacked claims.

     Jan Drew claimed that a specific doctor lost his license to practice.

     Jan Drew said that the reason

     Jan Drew said:

     Jan Drew NEVER

     that Jan Drew is

     Jan Drew claimed

     from Jan Drew

     Jan Drew repeatedly

     Jan DRew

     Re: LIAR Alert!

     Jan Drew  (32 times)

     The Hypocrisy of Jan Drew

     Jan Drew (4 times)

     Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

     JanD wrote:

     LadyLollipop wrote:

     Jdrew63929@aol.com

     (All diversions)

     Looks Like Someone Struck A Nerve With Jan Drew

     Jan should

     Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

     On 09 May 2004 03:10:30 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

     >>>>I wish for you a good dose of mercury poisoning, peripheral neuropathy
   and
     >>>>migraine headaches.

     ( still posting that being the despicable cyberstalking he is, NOT posting
   where I said I did say it and it was wrong, OVERLOOKING all the wishing of
   disabilites his buddy posted, proving he is a hypocrite)

     Jan still

     Jan said

     Didn't Jan

     Re: Cyberstalking Alert!

     Jan Drew (51 times)

     (or Jan DRew)

     Jan Drew On Selective Believing

     Jan Drew and Jan

     Re: More nonsense

     Jan Drew (3 times)

     Re: Bless

     Jan should  (3 times)

     (That becuase I showed where he lost his temper, he though it was nuked)

     Coleah apparently scored a direct hit!

     Jan Drew, Proven Anti-semite.

     >> Jan Drew is desperate to call me a liar

     >> Jan Drew Cannot Keep Her Lies and Anti-semitism Straight

     >> ==========

     >> Every single one of these titles proves:

     >> Then when his lies are exposed, he changes the subject title

     >> Proving once again.

     >> Genesis 27:19-20, 24. Jacob had to lie again to cover up his first lie

     >> =======

     >> Poor pathetic, Rich, foaming at the mouth, talking out of both sides.

     >> But you would never hear Jan make a comment like "Steven Bornfeld is a
     >> real Jewish gentleman"

     >> ( that's correct, as this is the FIRST time, I have ever heard that
   Steve
     >> was a Jew, and it matters NOT, Steve is ALWAYS a *gentleman*) GOD BLESS
     >> STEVE!

     >> She reserves the use of identifying someone as Jewish when she wants
     >> to attack them. She does this because she is an anti-semite who has a
     >> deep seated hatred for Jews.

     >> Poor, poor Rich!

     >> It has been over two thousand years since Jesus was crucified and Jan
     >> Drew still cannot forgive the Jews who were involved

     >> Richard H Jacobson knows who I cannot forgive? Does he think he is GOD?

     >> And she ridicules Mark P for not accepting the religious
     >> beliefs of the Jews for Jesus

     >> Oh? Do wonder if Richard can show us WHERE I did this?

     >> Let's cover a few other lies today.

     >> See how the story changes.

     >> What was the substantive change? I did not use the exact words and Jan
     >> accuses me of changing the story. She really is desperate.

     >> Poor, pathetic, Rich goes into a rant, changes the subject title when
   his
     >> lies are exposed.

     >> The changes are VERY  clear!

     >> ***She claimed that ALL her feet pain went away****

     >> *****because all her foot pain was gone******

     >> *******with no foot pain*********

     >> Don't believe Jan Drew. She is a psychopathic liar

     >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

     >> She claimed that *ALL* her feet pain went away

     >> she went from being *bedridden* to going out line dancing.

     >> (oops, wait a minute, Rich can't keeps his lies straight, he also LIED
     >> and
     >> claimed I was bedridden the how many days *BEFORE* I had my amalgams
     >> removed?)

     >> Jan Drew knows that what I have said above is true

     >> (poor, pathetic, Richard H Jacobson (WHO LIES ABOUT HIS NAME) thinks he
     >> is
     >> GOD and knows what *I* know is true!)

     >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told

     >> On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing

     >> >because all her foot pain was gone

     >> (that's right TWO LIES in the same post!)

     >> pathologic liar Jan Drew knows it.

     >> >This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a
     >> >liar and a stalker. Jan Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she
     >> >refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being whose sole
     >> >purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate
     >> >the lie that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and
     >> >the proof is in her own words.
     >> >Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead
     >> >she will pretend she is not reading them and then personally attack me
     >> >in order to discredit me. Or she will continue her stalking of me by
     >> >posting what she thinks is my name, address and phone number. Just
     >> >watch.
     >> >Aloha,
     >> >Rich

     >> ========

     >> What I ACTUALLY SAID!

     >> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
     >>       From: jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) - Find messages by this
     >> author
     >>       Date: 1999/06/26
     >>       Subject: Re: Chronic constipation

     >> [snipping to the point in question]

     >> THANK GOD, my feet didn't hurt!

     >> ==========

     >> Further LIES from Rich.

     >>  When Jan Drew was asked if she was a devout Christian she remained
     >> silent

     >> JDrew63929" <jdrew63...@aol.com>

     >> From Happy Dog

     >> Jan, please tell us where this quote is from.  Revelations?  Is it in
     >> your
     >> bible?  You are supporting it so I assume you're sure that it comes
   from
     > the
     >> bible.  So tell us where.  I can't find it.  But since you're the
   devout
     >> Christian, you must be able to. erf

     >> >> First of all I have never said I was a devout Christian.
     >> >OK.  You aren't a devout Christian.  Thanks for clearing that up'
     >> >You're welcome, however you snipped, I try, but God ain't done with me
     > yet.

     >> ==========

     >> Oops, Jan says it does not matter what a person's religion is but she
     >> identified some Jews here.

     >> Note the twisting Rich has stated things, I have not said.

     >> Poor, pathetic, Rich.

     >> When Jan was asked to identify those who have stated that they were
   Jews
     > she
     >> was silent

     >> There is NOT a group here that have identified themselves as Jewish.

     >> Poor, pathetic, LYING Richard H Jacobson!

     >> Jan determines in her mind who is Jewish

     >> WOW!!!

     >> Jan Drew thinks that Catholics who pray to Saints are being led by
   Satan.

     >> Richard H Jacobson is a despicable sick man, OBSESSED with Jan, he has
   a
     >> PROVEN pattern of BADGERING, of *any* person who ever claimed success
     > using
     >> alternative medicine.  He once stated:

     >> Probably the best way to debunk these claims is to demonstrate that the
     >> person
     >> making the claim is lying.

     >> In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron saint of lost

     >> >causes, that something will happen that prevents Jan from posting in
     >> >this
     >> >newsgroup since praying that she will change would take more than a
     >> >miracle.
     >> >Aloha,

     >>  Rich

     >> >Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered. However I believe

     >> that there is justice in this world and soon my prayers will be
     >> answered. I am patient.

     >> 2001

     >> >MHA is a discussion group to discuss alternative health modalities. I
     >> >choose to
     >> >discuss the issue of whether Jan Drew actually had mercury poisoning.

     >> Aloha,

     >>  Rich

     >> The pattern of badgering that Richard thinks he has nuked that started
     >> before I ever posted.

     >> http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

     >> http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl

     >> http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc

     >> http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf

     Re:Liar Alert!

     Jan Drew ( 3 times)

     Re: Kevin Trudeau on 20-20

     according to Jan

     Cue Jan

     Jan Drew when

     My pleasure. But how much respect can I give to someone who endlessly
     tries to discuss topics with Jan Drew when she obviously cannot
     discuss anything and then repeats thousands of lines of her abusive
     posts in the process? Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does.

     Jan is just a seriously disturbed insecure angry intolerant woman who
     has absolutely no insight into her behavior and blames everyone under
     the sun for her problems. Cue Jan to call me a liar as she does not
     even know everyone under the sun. Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue
     Jan to say that the subject is not Jan.

     Jan Drew realizes

     Jan Drew is

     Jan is

     She is

     her rage

     She may ( 4 times)

     her become

      Is Mark the subject of this thread? I thought NOT Jan!!!

     Re: Pitiful Attempt to Badger

     Susan, Jan flames nearly everyone with whom she disagrees especially
     if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

      She will also flame those who don't attack the people that she does
     not like especially if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

     It is pretty pointless to try to get Jan Drew to change. Or had you
     not noticed?

     Jan is a very bitter and angry woman who harbors great resentments and
     grudges. If you are on her sh.t list be prepared to be harassed. If
     you want to get off her sh.t list you need to do more than just be
     nice to her. You have to join her "bash the gang" bandwagon and tell
     her how she is a wonderful and loving Christian lady who is being
     inappropriately attacked by a gang of lying Jews and atheists.

     Re: More blathering

     Jan Drew (2 times)

      Re: Rich Shewmaker Is So Predictable

     On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
     JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
Mark Probert - 29 Jan 2006 16:46 GMT
>   what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??
>
>   Look it up under Proof Jan Drew lied about having mercury poisoning.

Better:

Restored:

Jan is a well known net stalker who has contacted employers, and other
people outside of Usenet. She posts private addresses and personal
information. She supports contacting spouses of posters in order to
silence them.

Jan HATES the First Amendment, Jews, Atheists, Catholics, and anyone who
does not sit in her pew.

You would be wise not to ever let her have any personal information.

I left out the fact that Jan will snip anything that accurately
describes her behavior. She demands from others what she is unwilling to
do herself. She has various tactics:

1. She snips to change meaning.
2. She cuts and pastes in a manner which is designed to derail and
confuse the discussion.
3. She will not post her own words, but, instead, posts URLs which may
or may not, be responsive to the issues being discussed. If you question
her, she will post more URLs.
4. She links a person's religion to whether they are truthful.
5. When you ask her a tough question about her antics, she will ignore
it for a while, and then say she answered it. When you ask for the URL
of the post where she answered it, she says that you should look it up.
6. She begins threads with people's name in the subject line. These
threads are feebly designed to try to humiliate the person.
7. If you disagree with her, she calls you a liar.
8. She does not read the full URL of anything you post that refutes what
she says.
9. She tries to derail discussion by making personal attacks on the
messenger.
10. She often combines her tactics.
11. There are a lot more.

An excellent example of her overall behavior was in the recent thread
where John Stossell had a 20-20 article on the fraud Gary Trudeau.
Stossell had two people on...Stephen Barrett, M.D. of Quackwatch and Dr.
Sidney Wolfe.

Jan started a new thread where she was trashing Stossell (a URL attack).
Even assuming that Stossell is all that she said he is, and the fact
that she hates Barrett, she had not comment on Dr. Wolfe. Why? Because
she is smart enough to know that she cannot trash Dr. Wolfe.

So, she trashed the others.

Pure diversion.

I hope this explains Jan Drew to you.

>   Be prepared to read for quite some time.
>     "JanD" <JanD@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:lzQCf.518011$084.291115@attbi_s22...
[quoted text clipped - 393 lines]
>       On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
>       JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
JanD - 29 Jan 2006 21:02 GMT
Harleygyrl A Bikerchyck" <aharleyg...@icqmail.com> wrote in message
news:hxUCf.4866$Ou1.4055@tornado.socal.rr.com...
 what is the deal w/ this stalking stuff??

 Look it up under Proof Jan Drew lied about having mercury poisoning.

 Be prepared to read for quite some time.

     (words of Richard H Jacobson)

     Beware of Jan Drew, Stalker

     Jan Drew 18 times

     Earth To Jan Drew

     Jan Drew (6 times)

     Re: MHA Contest: Claims that Jan Drew Cannot Back Up

     Jan Drew (5 times)

     (Under the same thread)

     Poor Jan. This thread is about Jan Drew's false claims. Thanx for
     playing Jan. You lose.

     Notice that Jan Drew cannot dispute a single claim that she made that
     she cannot back up. And she cannot use as an excuse that she did not
     read them.

     Claims that Jan DRew CAnnot Back Up.
     Unless Richard H Jacobson is really Jan Drew he is not the subject of
     this thread. Cue Jan to start a new thread with claims that Rich
     cannot back up. Just watch.

     Jan Drew is trying to disrupt this thread. Contestants, just ignore
     her and keep her unbacked claims coming. Maybe after we reach a
     hundred unbacked claims by Jan DRew she will realize what a hypocrite
     and liar she is. OTOH it may take a thousand unbacked claims.
     Fortunately Jan Drew is a never ending source of unbacked claims.

     Jan Drew claimed that a specific doctor lost his license to practice.

     Jan Drew said that the reason

     Jan Drew said:

     Jan Drew NEVER

     that Jan Drew is

     Jan Drew claimed

     from Jan Drew

     Jan Drew repeatedly

     Jan DRew

     Re: LIAR Alert!

     Jan Drew  (32 times)

     The Hypocrisy of Jan Drew

     Jan Drew (4 times)

     Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

     LadyLollipop wrote:

     Jdrew63...@aol.com

     (All diversions)

     Looks Like Someone Struck A Nerve With Jan Drew

     Jan should

     Re: Mark Probert Has NO Job!

     On 09 May 2004 03:10:30 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

     >>>>I wish for you a good dose of mercury poisoning, peripheral
neuropathy
   and
     >>>>migraine headaches.

     ( still posting that being the despicable cyberstalking he is, NOT
posting
   where I said I did say it and it was wrong, OVERLOOKING all the wishing
of
   disabilites his buddy posted, proving he is a hypocrite)

     Jan still

     Jan said

     Didn't Jan

     Re: Cyberstalking Alert!

     Jan Drew (51 times)

     (or Jan DRew)

     Jan Drew On Selective Believing

     Jan Drew and Jan

     Re: More nonsense

     Jan Drew (3 times)

     Re: Bless

     Jan should  (3 times)

     (That becuase I showed where he lost his temper, he though it was
nuked)

     Coleah apparently scored a direct hit!

     Jan Drew, Proven Anti-semite.

     >> Jan Drew is desperate to call me a liar

     >> Jan Drew Cannot Keep Her Lies and Anti-semitism Straight

     >> ==========

     >> Every single one of these titles proves:

     >> Then when his lies are exposed, he changes the subject title

     >> Proving once again.

     >> Genesis 27:19-20, 24. Jacob had to lie again to cover up his first
lie

     >> =======

     >> Poor pathetic, Rich, foaming at the mouth, talking out of both
sides.

     >> But you would never hear Jan make a comment like "Steven Bornfeld
is a
     >> real Jewish gentleman"

     >> ( that's correct, as this is the FIRST time, I have ever heard that
   Steve
     >> was a Jew, and it matters NOT, Steve is ALWAYS a *gentleman*) GOD
BLESS
     >> STEVE!

     >> She reserves the use of identifying someone as Jewish when she
wants
     >> to attack them. She does this because she is an anti-semite who has
a
     >> deep seated hatred for Jews.

     >> Poor, poor Rich!

     >> It has been over two thousand years since Jesus was crucified and
Jan
     >> Drew still cannot forgive the Jews who were involved

     >> Richard H Jacobson knows who I cannot forgive? Does he think he is
GOD?

     >> And she ridicules Mark P for not accepting the religious
     >> beliefs of the Jews for Jesus

     >> Oh? Do wonder if Richard can show us WHERE I did this?

     >> Let's cover a few other lies today.

     >> See how the story changes.

     >> What was the substantive change? I did not use the exact words and
Jan
     >> accuses me of changing the story. She really is desperate.

     >> Poor, pathetic, Rich goes into a rant, changes the subject title
when
   his
     >> lies are exposed.

     >> The changes are VERY  clear!

     >> ***She claimed that ALL her feet pain went away****

     >> *****because all her foot pain was gone******

     >> *******with no foot pain*********

     >> Don't believe Jan Drew. She is a psychopathic liar

     >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were
told

     >> She claimed that *ALL* her feet pain went away

     >> she went from being *bedridden* to going out line dancing.

     >> (oops, wait a minute, Rich can't keeps his lies straight, he also
LIED
     >> and
     >> claimed I was bedridden the how many days *BEFORE* I had my
amalgams
     >> removed?)

     >> Jan Drew knows that what I have said above is true

     >> (poor, pathetic, Richard H Jacobson (WHO LIES ABOUT HIS NAME)
thinks he
     >> is
     >> GOD and knows what *I* know is true!)

     >> And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were
told

     >> On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing

     >> >because all her foot pain was gone

     >> (that's right TWO LIES in the same post!)

     >> pathologic liar Jan Drew knows it.

     >> >This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being
a
     >> >liar and a stalker. Jan Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she
     >> >refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being whose sole
     >> >purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to
perpetuate
     >> >the lie that she had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not
and
     >> >the proof is in her own words.
     >> >Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post.
Instead
     >> >she will pretend she is not reading them and then personally
attack me
     >> >in order to discredit me. Or she will continue her stalking of me
by
     >> >posting what she thinks is my name, address and phone number. Just
     >> >watch.
     >> >Aloha,
     >> >Rich

     >> ========

     >> What I ACTUALLY SAID!

     >> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
     >>       From: jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) - Find messages by this
     >> author
     >>       Date: 1999/06/26
     >>       Subject: Re: Chronic constipation

     >> [snipping to the point in question]

     >> THANK GOD, my feet didn't hurt!

     >> ==========

     >> Further LIES from Rich.

     >>  When Jan Drew was asked if she was a devout Christian she remained
     >> silent

     >> JDrew63929" <jdrew63...@aol.com>

     >> From Happy Dog

     >> Jan, please tell us where this quote is from.  Revelations?  Is it
in
     >> your
     >> bible?  You are supporting it so I assume you're sure that it comes
   from
     > the
     >> bible.  So tell us where.  I can't find it.  But since you're the
   devout
     >> Christian, you must be able to. erf

     >> >> First of all I have never said I was a devout Christian.
     >> >OK.  You aren't a devout Christian.  Thanks for clearing that up'
     >> >You're welcome, however you snipped, I try, but God ain't done
with me
     > yet.

     >> ==========

     >> Oops, Jan says it does not matter what a person's religion is but
she
     >> identified some Jews here.

     >> Note the twisting Rich has stated things, I have not said.

     >> Poor, pathetic, Rich.

     >> When Jan was asked to identify those who have stated that they were
   Jews
     > she
     >> was silent

     >> There is NOT a group here that have identified themselves as
Jewish.

     >> Poor, pathetic, LYING Richard H Jacobson!

     >> Jan determines in her mind who is Jewish

     >> WOW!!!

     >> Jan Drew thinks that Catholics who pray to Saints are being led by
   Satan.

     >> Richard H Jacobson is a despicable sick man, OBSESSED with Jan, he
has
   a
     >> PROVEN pattern of BADGERING, of *any* person who ever claimed
success
     > using
     >> alternative medicine.  He once stated:

     >> Probably the best way to debunk these claims is to demonstrate that
the
     >> person
     >> making the claim is lying.

     >> In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron saint of
lost

     >> >causes, that something will happen that prevents Jan from posting
in
     >> >this
     >> >newsgroup since praying that she will change would take more than
a
     >> >miracle.
     >> >Aloha,

     >>  Rich

     >> >Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered. However I
believe

     >> that there is justice in this world and soon my prayers will be
     >> answered. I am patient.

     >> 2001

     >> >MHA is a discussion group to discuss alternative health
modalities. I
     >> >choose to
     >> >discuss the issue of whether Jan Drew actually had mercury
poisoning.

     >> Aloha,

     >>  Rich

     >> The pattern of badgering that Richard thinks he has nuked that
started
     >> before I ever posted.

     >> http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

     >> http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl

     >> http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc

     >> http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf

     Re:Liar Alert!

     Jan Drew ( 3 times)

     Re: Kevin Trudeau on 20-20

     according to Jan

     Cue Jan

     Jan Drew when

     My pleasure. But how much respect can I give to someone who endlessly
     tries to discuss topics with Jan Drew when she obviously cannot
     discuss anything and then repeats thousands of lines of her abusive
     posts in the process? Sorry, but stupid is as stupid does.

     Jan is just a seriously disturbed insecure angry intolerant woman who
     has absolutely no insight into her behavior and blames everyone under
     the sun for her problems. Cue Jan to call me a liar as she does not
     even know everyone under the sun. Cue Jan to call me a stalker. Cue
     Jan to say that the subject is not Jan.

     Jan Drew realizes

     Jan Drew is

     Jan is

     She is

     her rage

     She may ( 4 times)

     her become

      Is Mark the subject of this thread? I thought NOT Jan!!!

     Re: Pitiful Attempt to Badger

     Susan, Jan flames nearly everyone with whom she disagrees especially
     if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

      She will also flame those who don't attack the people that she does
     not like especially if they are Jewish. Or had you not noticed?

     It is pretty pointless to try to get Jan Drew to change. Or had you
     not noticed?

     Jan is a very bitter and angry woman who harbors great resentments and
     grudges. If you are on her sh.t list be prepared to be harassed. If
     you want to get off her sh.t list you need to do more than just be
     nice to her. You have to join her "bash the gang" bandwagon and tell
     her how she is a wonderful and loving Christian lady who is being
     inappropriately attacked by a gang of lying Jews and atheists.

     Re: More blathering

     Jan Drew (2 times)

      Re: Rich Shewmaker Is So Predictable

     On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:31:06 GMT, "LadyLollipop" aka Jan Drew aka
     JanD  aka Jan the hypocrite
Mark - 30 Jan 2006 03:02 GMT
..a lot of stuff that seems just a smidge hypocritical.

Jan, honey, did you email my colleagues at my place of work because I
described you (accurately) as a "twat"?

It's a simple yes-or-no question, so even you ought not have any
problem answering it.  Remember:  it'll take a lot less effort to write
"yes" or "no" than it will for you to attempt to avoid the issue by
claiming (untruthfully) that you have already answered and I should
just look it up.

Okay, I'll make it even easier:

Q:  Did you email my colleagues at my place of work?

A:  Yes  _____

     No   _____

Just put an X in the appropriate spot.

I bet you won't answer...truthfully.

Mark, MD
rich.@, - 30 Jan 2006 03:47 GMT
>..a lot of stuff that seems just a smidge hypocritical.
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>I bet you won't answer...truthfully.

I bet you won't get any takers on your bet offer. Are you offering any
odds?? Maybe if you give a million to one you may get a taker or two.

Jan Drew already admitted trying to stalk me. She admitted not only
trying to call what she thought was my business number but someone
else at the same business address. She also said that she asked about
the person she believed to be me. Lord knows what she told the person
she spoke to. Maybe she told them she was being stalked by a Jew Boy.

In any case to top it off Jan Drew lies about the doctor (she believed
to be me) losing his license.

Jan Drew realizes that she has proved that she is a stalker not to
mention a libeler.

I doubt if she wants to add to her stalking resume by admitting that
she e-mailed one of your colleagues.

Jan is obviously smart enough to know that stalking is a crime. This
is probably why she has stopped posting what she believes to be my
business address and phone number. She may be loony but she aint brain
dead.

Aloha,

Rich

>Mark, MD

-------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------

Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 30 Jan 2006 14:41 GMT
rich.@ wrote:

>>..a lot of stuff that seems just a smidge hypocritical.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I bet you won't get any takers on your bet offer. Are you offering any
> odds?? Maybe if you give a million to one you may get a taker or two.

A million to one? Hardly, ten google to one is more like it...

> Jan Drew already admitted trying to stalk me. She admitted not only
> trying to call what she thought was my business number but someone
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> business address and phone number. She may be loony but she aint brain
> dead.

You could have fooled me.
 
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