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Are your rights to stay healthy being attacked?

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Reggie - 30 Oct 2005 23:15 GMT
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Monday, October 31: Are your rights to stay healthy being attacked?
Discuss alternative medicine and general nutrition. If you or anyone you
know is ill or suffers from any chronic ailments you will want to tune in!

Guest: Kevin Trudeau – Consumer and Natural Health Advocate. Author of
Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About (You've seen him o­n
his infomercial!)

Guest: Kevin Miller. International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P.
Miller of Well TV will discuss his new documentary about the threat to
medical freedom of choice. 'We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health
Freedom'
Mark Probert - 30 Oct 2005 23:22 GMT
> SPECIAL NOTE: LISTEN AND CALL IN to TVNL's ONLINE RADIO SHOW!
> Mondays 12 noon to 2 p.m. ET
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About (You've seen him o­n
> his infomercial!)

Kevin also does not want you to know about his convictions for fraud,
and the fact that the FTC has banned him from making infomercials
promoting any health product because he could not back up any of his
claims.

Yes, go listen to Trudeau and see that he plays victim better than
anyone, and he laughs his a.s off at you suckers while he piles up
billions.

> Guest: Kevin Miller. International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P.
> Miller of Well TV will discuss his new documentary about the threat to
> medical freedom of choice. 'We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health
> Freedom'
Reg - 30 Oct 2005 23:41 GMT
No question that the man is controversial, and there have been attempts
to stop him from disseminating his views and claims.  Still, this is
your chance to confront him directly and hear what he has to say.
There's no screening when you calll - just tell the producer you want to
speak to Kevin.  Maybe you can enlighten the audience..or maybe he'll
have something to say that will open your eyes.  I'm not taking sides.
I believe he has the right to be heard.  We're getting no kickbacks or
promotions for having him on the show.  You can ask that question if
you'd like to put on record.

He will be on during the show's first hour.  Challenge is good for us
all....and your questions and doubts should be presented.  TVNL will
give you a chance to do just that.  How about it?  The time Kevin will
be available to callers is between noon and one ET.   Tune in...

Thanks for the reply...... there has been far too little debate or
discussion about alternative theories......so this may be an important
call on your part.
Reg - 30 Oct 2005 23:46 GMT
Mark....just so you'll know.... Kevin has the information about the
'fraud' claims listed on his site.... but you may feel there has to be
more of an explanation.  Here's the contact information for tomorrow...
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Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2005 00:03 GMT
> Mark....just so you'll know.... Kevin has the information about the
> 'fraud' claims listed on his site....

I have no doubt that he has the information about his fraud
*convictions* on his site...he uses that to help him play victim...

but you may feel there has to be
> more of an explanation.  Here's the contact information for tomorrow...
> TVNL is dedicated to presenting news and views not available on the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Sent via Health Newsgroups
> http://www.healthnewsgroups.com
LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 04:06 GMT
>> Mark....just so you'll know.... Kevin has the information about the
>> 'fraud' claims listed on his site....
>
> I have no doubt that he has the information about his fraud *convictions*
> on his site...he uses that to help him play victim...

Then that makes YOU a liar.

You can't remember what you just said!

*Kevin also does not want you to know about his convictions for fraud*

> but you may feel there has to be
>> more of an explanation.  Here's the contact information for tomorrow...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> Sent via Health Newsgroups
>> http://www.healthnewsgroups.com 
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2005 15:37 GMT
>>>Mark....just so you'll know.... Kevin has the information about the
>>>'fraud' claims listed on his site....
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> *Kevin also does not want you to know about his convictions for fraud*

Go play Liar! Liar! with yourself.

>>but you may feel there has to be
>>
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>>>Sent via Health Newsgroups
>>>http://www.healthnewsgroups.com
LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 19:41 GMT
>>>>Mark....just so you'll know.... Kevin has the information about the
>>>>'fraud' claims listed on his site....
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Go play Liar! Liar! with yourself.

Open Torah on your desk Ex:: 20:16

>>>but you may feel there has to be
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>>Sent via Health Newsgroups
>>>>http://www.healthnewsgroups.com
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2005 00:02 GMT
> No question that the man is controversial, and there have been attempts
> to stop him from disseminating his views and claims.  

Yes, he thrives on playing victim. In fact, if he did not have that, he
would not have anything.

Still, this is
> your chance to confront him directly and hear what he has to say.
> There's no screening when you calll - just tell the producer you want to
> speak to Kevin.  Maybe you can enlighten the audience..or maybe he'll
> have something to say that will open your eyes.  

Highly doubtful...I know a charlatan when I see one...

I'm not taking sides.
> I believe he has the right to be heard.  

He has a right to be heard, and let him buy the time. He can afford it.

We're getting no kickbacks or
> promotions for having him on the show.  You can ask that question if
> you'd like to put on record.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> discussion about alternative theories......so this may be an important
> call on your part.

There has been PLENTY of debate.
Ilena Rose - 31 Oct 2005 00:28 GMT
>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...

Probert doesn't even know what he supposively 'knows' ... he certainly
doesn't know what Mr Trudeau knows ... seems like Probert has intense
professional jealousies ... bashing others like highly respected Dr
Mercola ... and other targets of the quack/Barrett Ragtag Team.

Probert doesn't want to you to know about his disbarrment by the
Supreme Court of New York which brings him to Barrett's Quack Ragtag
Posse ... harassing, stalking, and infiltrating groups of their
enemies ... then putting on a dog & pony show that he is a 'victim.'

I'm certain that Mr Trudeau never attacked Mark S Probert of Merrick,
NY ... yet Probert very, very frequently pretends he is only
'defending' himself ... far from it. He began his attacks on me when
his Handler, Steve Barrett and Terry "Vera Teasdale" Polevoy lost to
me in court ... along with others of the "Ragtag Posse."

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/PropagandistProbert.html

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/quackbustersvsilena.htm#Rag-tag
Reg - 31 Oct 2005 00:46 GMT
I'd love you to join in the discussion tomorrow.  We need informed
voices reaching those who are new to these controversies.  Please try to
do that.
Mark Thorson - 31 Oct 2005 00:56 GMT
> I'd love you to join in the discussion tomorrow.  We need
> informed voices reaching those who are new to these controversies.
> Please try to do that.

TRANSLATION:  We'll cut you off as soon as our guest
makes a humorous retort and move on to the next caller.
Reg - 31 Oct 2005 01:11 GMT
Not so.  We're not on the air to promote Kevin or to discredit him.  The
show has a health theme this week, and a good debate is what brings
listeners to the site.  No one gets cut off....unless they are vulgar or
abusive.  That's a promise.  Write to the host at live@tvnewslies.org
and get a first hand guarantee.  He'll give it to you....
Rich - 31 Oct 2005 02:42 GMT
>>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...
>
> Probert doesn't even know what he supposively 'knows' ... he certainly
> doesn't know what Mr Trudeau knows ... seems like Probert has intense
> professional jealousies ... bashing others like highly respected Dr
> Mercola ... and other targets of the quack/Barrett Ragtag Team.

"Professional jealousies!?" What a laugh. Trudeau is not a professional
anything except a con man.

> Probert doesn't want to you to know about his disbarrment by the
> Supreme Court of New York which brings him to Barrett's Quack Ragtag
> Posse ... harassing, stalking, and infiltrating groups of their
> enemies ... then putting on a dog & pony show that he is a 'victim.'

The dog and pony victim show is Trudeau's specialty. He's done so many
fraudulent infomercials that he has been banned from selling anything except
books by that method. Books are exempted only because of the first
ammendment considerations.

The book that he is selling is a joke. It promises "natural cures," but
contains no cures at all.
Signature


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

Reg - 31 Oct 2005 02:57 GMT
Very possibly..... he'll have his say, and you can have yours.  It's a
radio show, not an informercial for him.  He'll be asked some very
provocative quesitons by the host....and hopefully by the callers.  It's
also not a courtroom....so we don't expect to indict or acquit...
LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 04:10 GMT
>>>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...
>>
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> "Professional jealousies!?" What a laugh. Trudeau is not a professional
> anything except a con man.

And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Mark Probert is:

A *GANG* member, that Rich can't see does any wrong.

>> Probert doesn't want to you to know about his disbarrment by the
>> Supreme Court of New York which brings him to Barrett's Quack Ragtag
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> The book that he is selling is a joke. It promises "natural cures," but
> contains no cures at all.
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2005 15:39 GMT
>>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...
>
> Probert doesn't even know what he supposively 'knows' ...

I know that these are a fine collection of posts:

http://groups.google.com/group/IlenaRosenthalFanClub

I know that you do not like them and cry like a baby and call them
harrassment...even though you have done it to me and my family for years.
LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 19:42 GMT
>>>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...
>>
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>
> http://groups.google.com/group/IlenaRosenthalFanClub

Poor Mark
Mark Probert - 31 Oct 2005 23:22 GMT
>>>>Kevin also does not want you to know  ...
>>>
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>
> Poor Mark

while you post and repost Ilena's defamatory and stalking of my family
website.

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LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 04:02 GMT
>> SPECIAL NOTE: LISTEN AND CALL IN to TVNL's ONLINE RADIO SHOW!
>> Mondays 12 noon to 2 p.m. ET
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> the fact that the FTC has banned him from making infomercials promoting
> any health product because he could not back up any of his claims.

Strange that we are suppose to take a liars word for that.

If Mark Probert wanted us to know, he could prove it.

>> Guest: Kevin Miller. International award-winning filmmaker Kevin P.
>> Miller of Well TV will discuss his new documentary about the threat to
>> medical freedom of choice. 'We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health
>> Freedom'
 
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