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The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

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john - 25 Oct 2005 18:31 GMT
The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

By DAN OLMSTED
Throughout the 1920s a scientist named Morris Kharasch filed a blizzard
of applications with the U.S. Patent Office.

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In 1924: "The present invention relates to the production of water
soluble organo-metallic compounds ... including mercury. ... This
invention is of particular importance in connection with the organic
compounds having germicidal or therapeutic value."

In 1926: "This invention relates to the treatment of infections of
soil, and more particularly to the use of mercury and other compounds
in conjunction with a fertilizer and its application to the infected
soil."

Kharasch, who died in 1957, is widely known for work reflected in that
1924 patent: the creation of thimerosal, the ethyl-mercury-based
preservative used in a wide range of medical products including
vaccines. It allowed for multidose vials and mass vaccination.

Less recognized is his invention of similar ethyl-mercury applications
for fungicides, reflected in that 1926 patent for "the treatment of
infections of soil."

Until now, a possible link between ethyl mercury and autism has focused
on vaccines. But what about fungicides? In the last column we outlined
a new theory by Mark Blaxill, research chair of the advocacy group
SafeMinds.

Blaxill's theory is simple: The possibility of fungicide exposure
connects some of the first 11 cases diagnosed by child psychiatrist Leo
Kanner. The most striking: Case 2, the son of a plant pathologist, and
Case 3, the son of a forestry professor at a southern university.

Case 1, Donald T., grew up in a small Mississippi town surrounded by
land that was being heavily planted with tree seedlings by the Civilian
Conservation Corps.

The idea that ethyl mercury -- in vaccines or anything else -- causes
autism is hotly debated. The notion has been firmly rejected by the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Institute of
Medicine, part of the National Academies of Science. (In 1999
manufacturers were asked to phase out thimerosal in routine childhood
vaccines; fungicides no longer use mercury.)

No one doubts, however, that ethyl mercury is a potent neurotoxin
especially dangerous to the developing brains of infants. The question:
Did "domesticating" it inadvertently trigger the age of autism?

"What's fascinating is if you look at the natural history of autism and
ethyl mercury, there's a pretty interesting coincidence in time and
place," said SafeMinds' Blaxill.

-- A trademark for "Merthiolate," the brand name for thimerosal, was
filed in 1928. Kharasch was the inventor. Innovations included water
solubility, compound stability and effectiveness.

-- A trademark for "Ceresan," an ethyl-mercury-based fungicide, was
filed in 1929. Kharasch and Max Engelmann were the inventors.
Innovations included organic mercury usage, methods of delivery and
compound stability.

-- The oldest child diagnosed with autism was Virginia S., born in
1931. That is the first year records refer to thimerosal in vaccines.

-- In Europe, the first child that pediatrician Hans Asperger diagnosed
with a similar disorder was Fritz V., born in 1933. His mother talked
of trips to her "beloved mountains."

-- A German company manufactured a brand of ethyl-mercury fungicide.

Blaxill notes that Kharasch's work had enormous impact. He was a
founder of the Journal of Organic Chemistry and a member of the
National Academy of Sciences.

"Kharasch came to Chicago from the Ukraine at the age of 13, and spent
most of his professional career at the University of Chicago,"
according to the Web site of the University of Michigan Chemistry
Department. "Kharasch brought free radicals, previously considered
esoteric species, into the mainstream of organic chemistry.

"Kharasch made pioneering studies on organomercurials important in
agriculture (as seed disinfectants) and medicine (the antiseptic
merthiolate)."

We asked Boyd Haley, a professor and former chair of the chemistry
department at the University of Kentucky, to look at the early ethyl
mercury fungicide and thimerosal patents.

"You're on to something," said Haley, who is controversial for his
belief that mercury is behind a range of neurological disorders
including autism.

"The whole problem -- and if you read these patents, it just jumps out
at you -- is that ethyl mercury was not water-soluble. You had no
delivery. All Kharasch did was really very simple straightforward
chemistry. He coupled ethyl mercury to an organic acid to make it
water-soluble."

Haley speculated that if ethyl-mercury-based fungicides caused some of
the early cases, it might have been because the fathers got it on their
clothes, sprayed it on their gardens or used it in their labs to
control fungus.

"If they ever took any home or got it on their hands, they could end up
with big problems," Haley said.

Next, we'll look at other countries' use of fungicides for more
possible dots to connect.

This ongoing series on the roots and rise of autism welcomes reader
comment. E-mail: dolmsted@upi.com

Copyright 2005 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
HCN - 25 Oct 2005 23:44 GMT
> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

> By DAN OLMSTED
>....

http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/44/involuntary-disclosure

http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html

http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/06/genetics-101-amish-anomaly.html

http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/09/coming-gold-rush.html
LadyLollipop - 26 Oct 2005 01:13 GMT
>> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

>> By DAN OLMSTED
>>....
>
> http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/44/involuntary-disclosure

Big whoop

Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer

> http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html

Opinions

By guess who

LOL

HCN posted

> http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/06/genetics-101-amish-anomaly.html

More opinions

Prometheus

> http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/09/coming-gold-rush.html

More opinions

Prometheus

and freelance writers.

WOW I am so impressed, NOT
Mark Probert - 26 Oct 2005 14:23 GMT
>>>The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Big whoop

Yes, Jan Drew advocates for invasion of privacy once again. What else
can one expect from a NetStalker and proven harasser?

> Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer

Kathleen is the mother of an autistic child, and she is the leader of
the group which exposed Boyd Haley's hubris. Of course Jan would not
like her.

>>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html
>
> Opinions
>
> By guess who

People affected by autism?

> LOL
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> WOW I am so impressed, NOT

Frankly, Jan, intelligent people do not give a cleanse whether you are
impressed or not.
LadyLollipop - 26 Oct 2005 20:33 GMT
>>>>The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Yes, Jan Drew advocates for invasion of privacy once again

Poor Mark Probert, LIES again.

Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer

No invasion of privacy, Katheen Siedel writes to blog.

[ more lies deleted]

>> Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer
>
> Kathleen is the mother of an autistic child, and she is the leader of the
> group which exposed Boyd Haley's hubris. Of course Jan would not like her.

LOL.

Poor Mark, childish as usual, I have no idea if I would like her, I have
never met her.Her opinon f Dr Haley's research is just that * her opinion*
hubris* is Mark's choice of words, no surprise there.

>>>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> People affected by autism?

Bad guess.

>> LOL
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> [childish waste of bandwidth snipped]
Mark Probert - 26 Oct 2005 22:14 GMT
>>>>>The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>>>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> No invasion of privacy, Katheen Siedel writes to blog.

Kathleen was not the invader of privacy. The URL that is posted shows
who is the invader. When you said BIG WHOOP you were minimizing what was
on the URL.

> [ more lies deleted]

OOPS, netstalker cannot handle this:

 What else can one expect from a NetStalker and proven harasser?

>>>Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> never met her.Her opinon f Dr Haley's research is just that * her opinion*
> hubris* is Mark's choice of words, no surprise there.

Yes, I did choose hubris because Haley could not say he regretted any
bad feelings he may have caused by referring to AUSTIM as MAD CHILD DISEASE.

>>>>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Bad guess.

I read that blog fairly regularly and I know that some posters are
parents of autistic kids.

>>>LOL
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>
>>[childish waste of bandwidth snipped]

What you could not handle:

Frankly, Jan, intelligent people do not give a cleanse whether you are
impressed or not.
LadyLollipop - 26 Oct 2005 23:39 GMT
>>>>>>The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>>>>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Kathleen was not the invader of privacy.

Poor Mark, does not know what he is writing.

The URL that is posted shows  who is the invader. When you said BIG WHOOP
you were minimizing what was
> on the URL.

Poor Mark.

>> [ more lies deleted]

>>>>Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> never met her.Her opinon f Dr Haley's research is just that * her
>> opinion* hubris* is Mark's choice of words, no surprise there.

Poor Mark, now diverts, once again.

[   ]

>>>>>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishonesty.html
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>>
>>>[childish waste of bandwidth snipped]
Mark Probert - 27 Oct 2005 13:47 GMT
Frankly, Jan, intelligent people do not give a cleanse what you "think".
LadyLollipop - 27 Oct 2005 21:41 GMT
Poor, pathetic Mark Probert knows he has been had, has a need to amke up a
new line.

Third time so far today.

Frankly, Jan, intelligent people do not give a cleanse what you "think".

"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message

news:klS7f.13308$rE2.450@fe10.lga...

> LadyLollipop wrote:

>>>LadyLollipop wrote:

>>>>>>The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>>>>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-...
>>>>>>By DAN OLMSTED
>>>>>>....

>>>>>http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/44/involuntary-disclosure

>>>>Big whoop

>>>Yes, Jan Drew advocates for invasion of privacy once again

>> Poor Mark Probert, LIES again.

>> Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer

>> No invasion of privacy, Katheen Siedel writes to blog.

> Kathleen was not the invader of privacy.

Poor Mark, does not know what he is writing.

The URL that is posted shows  who is the invader. When you said BIG WHOOP
you were minimizing what was

> on the URL.

Poor Mark.

>> [ more lies deleted]

>>>>Katheen Seidel librarian and web developer

>>>Kathleen is the mother of an autistic child, and she is the leader of the
>>>group which exposed Boyd Haley's hubris. Of course Jan would not like
>>>her.

>> LOL.

>> Poor Mark, childish as usual, I have no idea if I would like her, I have
>> never met her.Her opinon f Dr Haley's research is just that * her
>> opinion* hubris* is Mark's choice of words, no surprise there.

Poor Mark, now diverts, once again.

[   ]

>>>>>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/09/dan-olmsted-brings-dishones...

>>>>Opinions

>>>>By guess who

>>>People affected by autism?

>> Bad guess.

> I read that blog fairly regularly and I know that some posters are parents
> of autistic kids.

>>>>LOL

>>>>HCN posted

>>>>>http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/06/genetics-101-amish-an...

>>>>More opinions

>>>>Prometheus

>>>>>http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2005/09/coming-gold-rush.html

>>>>More opinions

>>>>Prometheus

>>>>and freelance writers.

>>>>WOW I am so impressed, NOT

>>>[childish waste of bandwidth snipped]
HCN - 29 Oct 2005 23:04 GMT
> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

> By DAN OLMSTED
...

From http://www.cjr.org/issues/2005/6/schulman.asp:

"Privately, two reporters told me that, while intriguing, Olmsted's
reporting on the Amish is misguided, since it may simply reflect genetic
differences among an isolated gene pool (Hornig, however, said that a study
on the Amish may still be valuable should the prevalence of autism in that
community indeed be low, allowing researchers to study the genetics of
people who are not susceptible to the disorder). Both reporters believed
that Olmsted has made up his mind on the question and is reporting the facts
that support his conclusions. "
LadyLollipop - 30 Oct 2005 05:44 GMT
>> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> reporters believed that Olmsted has made up his mind on the question and
> is reporting the facts that support his conclusions. "

Careful now HCN

http://www.acupuncturepei.com/daniel-schulman.html

Daniel Schulman. Dipl.Ac. (NCCAOM), R.Ac. (902-628-1478)
Daniel has spent most of his life on islands (Manhattan, Montreal, England
and Prince Edward Island) and considers himself an Islander, through and
through. For the first 20 years of his adult life, he was occupied in
various fields of environmental science, both professionally and as an
activist. He also spent 12 years learning and teaching with the Taoist Tai
Chi Society of Canada (http://www.taoist.org). In his mid-30's, Daniel made
a mid-life transition into the field of Oriental Medicine.

Daniel is certified with the National Certification Commission for
Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (http://www.nccaom.org) in the United
States. He is a graduate of the 3-year full-time postgraduate acupuncture
program at the New England School of Acupuncture (http://www.nesa.edu) in
Boston, Massachusetts. NESA is the oldest accredited North American school
of acupuncture (http://www.ccaom.org). NESA has a long history of bringing
various Japanese styles of acupuncture to North America. Daniel considers
himself very fortunate to have attended NESA at a time when he could acquire
good training in several Japanese acupuncture approaches.

In his Charlottetown clinic, Daniel draws mainly from a number of Japanese
palpatory styles of acupuncture including

a.. Meridian Therapy (Keiraku Chiryo)
a.. Yoshio Manaka's approaches to structural Yin Yang balancing
a.. Kiiko Matsumoto's hara reflex release approaches (http://www.kiiko.com)
a.. Toyohari (http://www.toyohari.org)
a.. Shonishin (Paediatric needleless acupuncture)
He also uses

a.. Traditional Chinese Acupuncture
a.. Auriculotherapy
a.. Korean Hand and Foot Acupuncture
His tools and techniques include

a.. insertion needles
a.. contact needles
a.. indirect moxibustion
a.. direct moxibustion (in the tradition of Japanese moxibustion masters,
   Ken Sawada, Bunshi Shirota and Isaburo Fukaya)
a.. cupping
a.. gua sha (http://www.guasha.com)
a.. capillary release
a.. a variety of modern polarity devices adapted to the principles of
acupuncture
He also uses prepared Chinese herbal formulas and offers dietary and
lifestyle advice in accordance with Chinese Medical principles.

Daniel is a supporting member of the North American Journal of Oriental
Medicine (http://members.shaw.ca/najom), the only English language Journal
dedicated to Japanese styles of acupuncture. He is committed to advancing
the profession of Classical Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine. His work in
establishing the Association of Registered Acupuncturists of Prince Edward
Island reflects that commitment.

Please feel free to contact Daniel if you or your group would like a
presentation on Acupuncture, Chinese Medicine and Alternative Medicine in
general.

Publications on Acupuncture, Oriental Medicine and Alternative Medicine

Schulman D. Case Study Report: Migraines Following a Hysterectomy. North
American Journal of Oriental Medicine. March, 2001: Volume 8 (21); Pages
18-19.

Schulman D. The Best of All Worlds. Towards an Integrated Health Care System
Model. Submission to Commission on Future of Health Care in Canada. Prince
Edward Island Association for Integrative Medicine. 2002.

Schulman D. A Framework for Classifying Unpleasant Responses to Acupuncture.
The Journal of Chinese Medicine. June, 2004: Volume 75; Pages 10-16.

Schulman D. Is 'Energy Medicine' A Good Label for Acupuncture? Guest
Editorial. Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine. June, 2004:
Volume 10 (3); Pages 7-10.

Schulman D. The Unexpected Outcomes of Acupuncture. Case Reports in Support
of Refocused Research Designs. Journal of Alternative and Complementary
Medicine; October, 2004: Volume 10 (5) In Press.

Schulman D. Gold Standard or Fool's Gold. Staking Our Own Claim on the
Evidence-Based Medicine Map. North American Journal of Oriental Medicine.
November, 2004: Volume 11(32) In Press.

Schulman D. Is An Acupuncture Meridian a Real Thing? Complementary Therapies
in Medicine. 2004. Submitted.

Schulman D. Towards an Acupuncture-Friendly Research Design. Plausibility,
Efficacy and Safety Reframed. 2005. In Preparation.
cathyb - 30 Oct 2005 14:49 GMT
> >> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work
> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051024-20
335800-bc-ageofautism.xml

[quoted text clipped - 104 lines]
> Schulman D. Towards an Acupuncture-Friendly Research Design. Plausibility,
> Efficacy and Safety Reframed. 2005. In Preparation.

And your point is? That even an accupuncturist is prepared to say what
many others have:

"Privately, two reporters told me that, while intriguing, Olmsted's
reporting on the Amish is misguided, since it may simply reflect
genetic
differences among an isolated gene pool (Hornig, however, said that a
study
on the Amish may still be valuable should the prevalence of autism in
that
community indeed be low, allowing researchers to study the genetics of
people who are not susceptible to the disorder). Both reporters
believed
that Olmsted has made up his mind on the question and is reporting the
facts
that support his conclusions. "

Cathy
HCN - 30 Oct 2005 19:16 GMT
...d. 2005. In Preparation.

> And your point is? That even an accupuncturist is prepared to say what
> many others have:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Cathy

One reason why loony lady is in my killfile... she responded with an
adveristizement for an acurpuncturest!

Anyway, I also had the observation on Olmsted's stories.  He started with a
conclusion and only went after the data that fit that.   Which is possibly
one reason why I never saw any indication that he walked into a facility
that has a sole purpose of studying the genetics of the Amish (along with
giving them medical care):
http://www.clinicforspecialchildren.org/index.html
LadyLollipop - 31 Oct 2005 01:08 GMT
> ...d. 2005. In Preparation.
>>
>> And your point is? That even an accupuncturist is prepared to say what
>> many others have:

Poor Cathy.

She just can't see the point.

Schulman D. The Best of All Worlds. Towards an Integrated Health Care System
Model. Submission to Commission on Future of Health Care in Canada. Prince
Edward Island Association for Integrative Medicine. 2002.

>> "Privately, two reporters told me that, while intriguing, Olmsted's
>> reporting on the Amish is misguided, since it may simply reflect
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> One reason why loony lady is in my killfile... she responded with an
> adveristizement for an acurpuncturest!

See how HCN LIES

It was NOT an adveristizement.

It was in FACT his Biography.

HCN is both a liar and a name caller.

> Anyway, I also had the observation on Olmsted's stories.  He started with
> a conclusion and only went after the data that fit that.   Which is
> possibly one reason why I never saw any indication that he walked into a
> facility that has a sole purpose of studying the genetics of the Amish
> (along with giving them medical care):
> http://www.clinicforspecialchildren.org/index.html
cathyb - 31 Oct 2005 01:14 GMT
> > ...d. 2005. In Preparation.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> She just can't see the point.

Yet again, La Lollipop doesn't appear to have one.

> Schulman D. The Best of All Worlds. Towards an Integrated Health Care System
> Model. Submission to Commission on Future of Health Care in Canada. Prince
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> It was NOT an adveristizement.

Read it again. It was an advert.

> It was in FACT his Biography.
>
> HCN is both a liar and a name caller.

You don't see the inherent hypocrisy in that statement?

Poor Lollipop; so much to understand, so little with which to do it.

Cathy

> > Anyway, I also had the observation on Olmsted's stories.  He started with
> > a conclusion and only went after the data that fit that.   Which is
> > possibly one reason why I never saw any indication that he walked into a
> > facility that has a sole purpose of studying the genetics of the Amish
> > (along with giving them medical care):
> > http://www.clinicforspecialchildren.org/index.html
 
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