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Mark Probert Needs A Handler To Help Him Keep His LIES Straight
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LadyLollipop - 26 Sep 2005 21:04 GMT "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message news:xzSZe.2342$dl2.91@fe08.lga...
> Robert wrote: > >>>Also be careful about revealing any personal information about you >>>such as where you work. Jan is likely to ask you to prove that you >>>really are a qualified lab tech. She is a stalker and will use that >>>information to contact your employer in order to harass you. She has >>>done that with a number of posters here before. >> >> There are many people who have done that. There has been many allegations >> and insults from many. It is a part of the experience. > > Jan, and her handler, have proven track records of contacting employers, > spouses, ISPs, and mail providers. Just be careful. Mark pretends to be his wife while continually whining about others and making up lies.
Here is the proof.
Dear Mrs. Drew:
I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage.
Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement, and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I have never had contact with her.
Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However, Rosenthal persists in accusing him.
Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son. Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students' work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were affiliated with her.
Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals. As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect. Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons, which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox.
You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited) or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts. If you were my student, you would get an F.
When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such complaints.
Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings* in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most vile people. I gave them an A.
I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on Rosenthal.
As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her current messages to me.
If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I am using my professional email address simply because that is the address Rosenthal used.
Sandra Probert
SPro...@nycboe.net
Mark Probert - 26 Sep 2005 23:11 GMT >>Robert wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Mark pretends to be his wife while continually whining about others and > making up lies. Jan, instead of attacking me, prove that I am wrong. Prove that you have never contacted an employer, ISP or a mail provider. Prove that Ilena has never contacted a spouse.
Oops..you cannot because to do so, you would have to lie, and there is ample proof, provided by you and your handler, in your own words, that these are facts.
So, go right ahead and attack me with your idle conjecture. No one really beleives you.
LadyLollipop - 26 Sep 2005 23:52 GMT >>>Robert wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> Mark pretends to be his wife while continually whining about others and >> making up lies. Here is the proof.
Dear Mrs. Drew:
I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage.
Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement, and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I have never had contact with her.
Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However, Rosenthal persists in accusing him.
Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son. Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students' work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were affiliated with her.
Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals. As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect. Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons, which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox.
You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited) or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts. If you were my student, you would get an F.
When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such complaints.
Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings* in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most vile people. I gave them an A.
I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on Rosenthal.
As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her current messages to me.
If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I am using my professional email address simply because that is the address Rosenthal used.
Sandra Probert
SPro...@nycboe.net
> Jan, instead of attacking me, prove that I am wrong. Prove that you have > never contacted an employer, ISP or a mail provider. Prove that Ilena has [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, go right ahead and attack me with your idle conjecture. No one really > beleives you. Mark Probert - 27 Sep 2005 14:42 GMT >>>>Robert wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Here is the proof. No, Jan it is an attack on me. It does not disprove anything.
Jan, instead of attacking me, prove that I am wrong. Prove that you have never contacted an employer, ISP or a mail provider. Prove that Ilena has never contacted a spouse.
Oops..you cannot because to do so, you would have to lie, and there is ample proof, provided by you and your handler, in your own words, that these are facts.
So, go right ahead and attack me with your idle conjecture. No one really beleives you.
LadyLollipop - 27 Sep 2005 15:17 GMT Wrote where?
>>>>>Robert wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Here is the proof. Dear Mrs. Drew:
I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage.
Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement, and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I have never had contact with her.
Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However, Rosenthal persists in accusing him.
Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son. Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students' work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were affiliated with her.
Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals. As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect. Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons, which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox.
You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited) or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts. If you were my student, you would get an F.
When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such complaints.
Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings* in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most vile people. I gave them an A.
I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on Rosenthal.
As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her current messages to me.
If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I am using my professional email address simply because that is the address Rosenthal used.
Sandra Probert
SPro...@nycboe.net
Mark Probert - 27 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT
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