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Big Veggie Eaters Had Half the Risk of Pancreatic Cancer

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Roman Bystrianyk - 19 Sep 2005 22:57 GMT
Daniel DeNoon, "Big Veggie Eaters Had Half the Risk of Pancreatic
Cancer", Web MD, September 16, 2005,
Link: http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/112/110274.htm

You really, really don't want to get pancreatic cancer. If you eat lots
of vegetables, you may not have to.

Pancreatic cancer is rare. That's a good thing. However, within five
years of diagnosis, more than 96% of patients die.

An expected 32,000 people will get pancreatic cancer this year. Here's
how to avoid being one of them: Eat vegetables -- a lot of vegetables,
says Elizabeth A. Holly, PhD, professor of epidemiology and
biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco.

Holly researched more than 2,200 San Francisco Bay residents, including
532 pancreatic cancer patients. Those who ate six or more servings of
vegetables every day got pancreatic cancer half as often as those who
ate less than three servings a day.

Fruits helped, too, but not as much as veggies. Eating five or more
pieces of fruit every day -- especially citrus like oranges -- cut the
risk of pancreatic cancer by 28%.

"Simple life choices ... may be one of the most practical ways to
reduce the incidence of this dreadful disease," Holly says in a news
release.

Not All Veggies Equal

Some vegetables seemed more protective than others. Compared with those
who ate the least:

* Those who ate the most onions and garlic cut their pancreatic cancer
risk by 54%.
* Those who ate the most beans cut their pancreatic cancer risk by 49%.
* Those who ate the most carrots cut their pancreatic cancer risk by
44%.
* Those who ate the most yellow vegetables cut their pancreatic cancer
risk by 41%.
* Those who ate the most dark, leafy vegetables cut their pancreatic
cancer risk by 37%.

Despite these specific findings, Holly warns that eating lots of one
vegetable likely means a person eats lots of others. So it's more
likely that simply eating lots of vegetables is better than eating lots
of just one kind.

The findings appear in the September issue of Cancer Epidemiology
Biomarkers & Prevention.
Bill Levinson - 20 Sep 2005 00:51 GMT
> Daniel DeNoon, "Big Veggie Eaters Had Half the Risk of Pancreatic
> Cancer", Web MD, September 16, 2005,
> Link: http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/112/110274.htm

> Not All Veggies Equal
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> * Those who ate the most onions and garlic cut their pancreatic cancer
> risk by 54%.

I'm a chemist and not a doctor but I think I know how this works. Onions
and garlic smell the way they do because they have a lot of sulfur
compounds. The same goes for broccoli, cabbage, and Brussels sprouts.

Many sulfur compounds are antioxidants, and they trap free radicals that
are believed to cause cancer (and other problems). The same goes for
colored vegetables; they get their color from conjugated double bonds
that also can trap free radicals.

--Bill
Mark Probert - 20 Sep 2005 15:05 GMT
> Daniel DeNoon, "Big Veggie Eaters Had Half the Risk of Pancreatic
> Cancer", Web MD, September 16, 2005,
> Link: http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/112/110274.htm

What happens if I eat a lot of small veggies? Does that make up for lack
of size?

> You really, really don't want to get pancreatic cancer. If you eat lots
> of vegetables, you may not have to.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Not All Veggies Equal

Uh-oh...Veggie Farm

All veggies are equal, but some are more equal than others.

> Some vegetables seemed more protective than others. Compared with those
> who ate the least:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> The findings appear in the September issue of Cancer Epidemiology
> Biomarkers & Prevention.

Salad anyone?
madiba - 30 Sep 2005 21:22 GMT
> You really, really don't want to get pancreatic cancer. If you eat lots
> of vegetables, you may not have to.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> says Elizabeth A. Holly, PhD, professor of epidemiology and
> biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco.

Apple's CEO Steve Jobs eats only vegetables and fish (a pescatarian?)
and he recently had pancreatic cancer..

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Tim Campbell - 01 Oct 2005 05:26 GMT
> Apple's CEO Steve Jobs eats only vegetables and fish (a pescatarian?)
> and he recently had pancreatic cancer..

For some it takes more than just a few years of such eating to dodge
the cancer bullet...
Eva - 02 Oct 2005 19:43 GMT
> > You really, really don't want to get pancreatic cancer. If you eat lots
> > of vegetables, you may not have to.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Apple's CEO Steve Jobs eats only vegetables and fish (a pescatarian?)
> and he recently had pancreatic cancer..
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Well, reducing your risk still does not guarantee that you will not get it.

Eva
Tim Campbell - 02 Oct 2005 23:03 GMT
> -----------
> Well, reducing your risk still does not guarantee that you will not get it.
>
> Eva

Of course not but I'll take a reduction in risk however I can get it;
won't you?
madiba - 03 Oct 2005 01:34 GMT
> > -----------
> > Well, reducing your risk still does not guarantee that you will not get it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Of course not but I'll take a reduction in risk however I can get it;
> won't you?

Dunno. Years of shovelling veggies down my gullet and then end up with
that type of cancer - enough to drive anyone to fall on his cabbage
cleaver (or on his Mac mouse in Jobs's case).
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madiba

Colin Hammond - 03 Oct 2005 05:50 GMT
Hi y'all,the thing is not just eating the veggies & fruit, but drinking
enough water, cutting things that are damageing to the body, like oil,
diary etc....plus getting enough exercise
Tim Campbell - 03 Oct 2005 06:02 GMT
> Hi y'all,the thing is not just eating the veggies & fruit, but drinking
> enough water, cutting things that are damageing to the body, like oil,
> diary etc....plus getting enough exercise

well-stated Colin...and also minimizing one's exposure to air
pollution, indoor and outdoor...
Eva - 03 Oct 2005 02:09 GMT
> > -----------
> > Well, reducing your risk still does not guarantee that you will not get it.
>
> Of course not but I'll take a reduction in risk however I can get it;
> won't you?
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Yeeeeeeeeessssss, but getting breast cancer after doing everything possible
to reduce my risk factors has made me somewhat cynical.  Not cynical to the
point of smoking, eating junk food, and avoiding exercise, you understand;
just *somewhat* cynical.

Eva
Tim Campbell - 03 Oct 2005 04:20 GMT
> > Of course not but I'll take a reduction in risk however I can get it;
> > won't you?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Eva

I certainly understand Eva. Sorry to hear about it.
Eric Bohlman - 03 Oct 2005 22:19 GMT
> Yeeeeeeeeessssss, but getting breast cancer after doing everything
> possible to reduce my risk factors has made me somewhat cynical.  Not
> cynical to the point of smoking, eating junk food, and avoiding
> exercise, you understand; just *somewhat* cynical.

Consider, though, that if you hadn't taken those steps to reduce your risk
factors, you might have wound up with a much more serious case of breast
cancer, or might have developed it earlier than you did.
Colin Hammond - 03 Oct 2005 00:18 GMT
When is the last time you saw a fish that was a Vegetable, there are
some Dr and nutritionists that suggest that you get rid of any fats,
which includes fish, meat, diary, some also say diary foods are one of
the new evils when it comes to diet, i.e. www.notmilk.com
Rich - 03 Oct 2005 00:39 GMT
> When is the last time you saw a fish that was a Vegetable, there are
> some Dr and nutritionists that suggest that you get rid of any fats,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Sent via Health Newsgroups
> http://www.healthnewsgroups.com

Yes, we know ALL about "notmilk". George Lagergren, who hasn't been around
lately, believes that the very existence of Cohen's website is conclusive
evidence that milk and dairy products are toxic substances that are
responsible for everything from ear infections to pneumonia. George loved to
tell tales of accosting strangers in public to educate them about the
dangers of milk. maybe he got arrested, and that's why he is not posting the
same nonsense over and over.
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