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LadyLollipop - 19 Sep 2005 09:01 GMT

And the PATHETIC, Richard H Jacobson

Jan, the anti-semite

Jesus, the Jew Boy

Jan saying that Catholics who pray to
saints are agents of Satan.

After all she must create a diversion after I exposed her egregious
hypocrisy and
her wanton disregard of the Ten Commandments.

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Date: 1995/10/26
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Paul Iannone (p_iann...@pop.com) wrote:

: In message ID <46koj4$...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> on 10/25/95, Steven B.

: Harris/Virginia wrote:

: : >There are several books on food therapy that are reliable--you might
: : want to
: : >compare Dr. Flaws' work, or the PLTCM materials.
: : >
: : >--Paul || p_iann...@pop.com
: :
: : I figured that's what you'd say. Obviously the Board of Acupuncture
: : Examiners disagrees with you-- but what do they know? The only expert
: : is Paul Ianonne and the people HE says are experts. With competing
: : religions, what more can one say?
: :
: : Steve Harris, M.D.

: Why don't you try accepting the advice of those who are participating

here?

Why the hell should we? Who appointed YOU an expert except the
megalomaniac Paul Iannone who is a legend in his own mind.
What are your credentials? Some kind of Spirit licensed You
to practice healing without a license. And you expect us to
believe you and not some recognized authority in the field.
Sure YOU don't recognize him as an authority but who are YOU
to determine WHO is an authority and who is not?

: Of the three or four of us, NONE of us recommend that you try to get a

sense

: of the therapy from mass market, consumer level books like Lu's. There are
: small press books that are much better, and there is certainly a raft of
: books that would be better starting points, like Kaptchuk's book (for the
: thousandth time).

So where does Kaptchuk's book fall in your rating scale below?
Is it source material? No
Is it secondary material ? No
Is it tertiary material? No
Is it a mass market book designed to communicate ideas to the
public? Yes
So by YOUR own admission this is third rate material. The only
difference is that YOU put your stamp of approval on it. So
much for consistancy. But we expect no less from you Paul.

: Literature in such a huge tradition would have to be rated on a scale like
: this:

: 1. Source material. This is literature in Chinese by practitioners,

generally

: from classical times.
: 2. Secondary materials. This is discussion of those texts and ideas in
: Chinese.
: 3. Tertiary materials. This is translations of those texts and ideas into
: English.
: 4. Mass market books. This is a range of literature designed to

communicate

: ideas to the public.

: To the best of their ability, practitioners should feed from the top of

that

: scale. NONE of us look to (what are here) quaternary texts for our basic
: concepts.

Then why do you recommend Kaptchuk's book which is quaternary text
recommended by YOU for basic concepts?

: If you were serious in your comments, instead of being out to settle some
: score with me, you would certainly agree with these comments.

Of course Paul. And anyone who does not agree with you is an
*idiot* or an *a.shole*. And why praytell should any of us
believe someone who has no formal credentials and pontificates
endlessly in this newsgroup in an attempt to convince the world
how great he is?

Aloha,

Rich

Rich.@.> wrote in message news:ag0me19924oi0s3ojdfh5ij97l3p58jv5o@4ax.com.

If only we could turn the clock back

..> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:19:08 GMT, "LadyLollipop"

> <LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>>In January of 1999, I was in fact, bedfast and had never used a
>>computer
>
> Aloha,
>
> Rich

"Rich" <,@.> wrote in message.

> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:11:28 -0000, "Anth" <a...@anon.com> wrote:
> >Bullshit Orac and you know it.
> >Cancer has hit me 2 times, do you think I joke about it?
> >Anth

> The only thing we know for sure is that you posted in a sarcastic
> fashion that the child who died from leukemia, died from eating an
> apple. Your post is there for all to see.

> You see, Anth, there is no getting away from your despicable sarcastic
> reply regardless of how you try to bob and weave. Your lack of empathy
> is quite remarkable. Even when it is pointed out to you, you don't
> have the integrity to admit that what you said was both inappropriate
> and in poor taste. I suspect if you reply to this that you will find
> some way to avoid dealing directly with what I said. You are one of
> the most evasive, manipulative individuals I have encountered on
> usenet.

> Aloha,
> Rich
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------------
> "Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like
> sh.tting in your pants because that's where your a.shole happened to be."

I personally think that Jan Drew is one of the most despicable
individuals on this planet. She would have fit right in with Hitler
and Nazi Germany.

>Are you sure my name is Richard Jacobson??
>>>>Is it or isn't it?
>>Negative. Does this mean that I don't have to agree to Jan's request to

cease and desist?? Of course her request presumes that I have been stalking
and harassing her.

>I am grateful for one thing; that Richard Jacobson is not my real name.

Unfortunately the Richard Jacobson that DOES live in Hawaii may not be too
happy with my assuming his name for purposes of the internet especially
given
the recent events. He happens to live on a different island from me. I do
plan
to contact him to let him know that someone may try to harass him since he
is
listed in the phone book.
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Hiking The Kalalau Trail

Richard Jacobson (richj@cris.com)
Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:27:34 -0500 (EST)

>Hawaii's premier backpacking trail, the Kalalau Trail on the island of

Kauai still remains closed past Hanakoa due to the reconstruction of
the trail near "crawler's ridge". Estimated date of completion is Mid May.
Until then, camping will only be permitted in Hanakapiai and Hanakoa
Valleys. I for one am anxious to have Kalalau open again. It has to
be one of the finest trails in the world.

Aloha,
Rich
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Richard H. Jacobson
Always remember to put Horace before Descarte

>>In any case I will continue to pray to Saint Jude, patron saint of lost
>causes, that something will happen that prevents Jan from posting in this
>newsgroup since praying that she will change would take more than a
>miracle.

Unfortunately my prayers have not yet been answered. However I believe
that there is justice in this world and soon my prayers will be
answered. I am patient.

Aloha,

Rich

Liar, liar, pants on fire! You're busted, again. So, where's the apology
for falsely accusing Rich of lying when you are the liar...or hopelessly
demented.

>Quite classic. Kaalga calls me a blatant liar. Then I expose the lie.Does
>she apologize?? No. Instead she gives some lame excuse about how she DID
>NOT mention the word stalking (note the emphasis on the DIDNOT).

>And Kaalga asks me what grade I am in. Not only does she not apologize but
>she attacks me in a quite infantile manner.

>The "net nanny" once again demonstrates her egregious hypocrisy andthe
>reason that she is in my kill file.

>I bailed out of a group because of a discussion about Jan and Connie??>
>What a friggin lie. I bailed out because you slandered me and refused> to
>retract the slanderous statement. And to this day you have not> retracted
>the statement. All you have done is apologized for lowering> the
>discussion to the level of mha. And speaking of lowering the level> on mha,
>you are the LOWEST of the low. You are a liar and a coward and> cannot even
>give a simple apology for calling me a stalker for NO> REASON in Aaron's
>list serve. The only people who are defending you> are Ka and Jan, two more
>cowards and liars. You keep good company.>

>I don't give a fig what you accuse me of you pathologic liar. I am> friggin
>tired of your friggin false accusations. It is NOT> cyberstalking to
>crosspost an article to another newsgroup if it is> relevant to the
>discussion. The reason Jan had problems is because of> her newsreader and
>NOT because I crossposted. Are you saying that ALL> people who crosspost
>articles are cyberstalkers???>> It is ALSO not cyberstalking to respond to
>an individual in a> newsgroup that is public. I never carried the
>conversation outside of> mha with Connie except in private email with her
>that was agreed to by> the both of us. She posted publically to this
>newsgroup and I> responded. How the hell is that cyberstalking??>> You OTOH
>realizing that I had you kill filed, once publically posted> that you
>wanted people to send me a message from you. I then got> bombed with dozens
>of email messages. What the hell do you call that> Bain?? That would more
>closely constitute cyberstalking when you try> to get a message from
>someone who does not want to hear your bullshit.>> I temporarily removed
>you from kill file to see how you responded to> my challenge. It did not
>surprise me. You are an unmitigated liar who> makes false accusations just
>to deflect attention and serve your> selfish purposes. And the proof is in
>the pudding.>>>> >

I believe the way you have treated jan and connie are examples of this.

>>And I believe you are a pathologic and manipulative liar. Others can> make
>>up their own minds. But as I said, the proof is in the pudding.>

Rich <k@hawaii.rr.com> writes:>

Kaalga believes that this misattribution was deliberately made in>order to
malign the reputation of Jan. But since it was Kaalga that>made the comment
I guess that means that Kaalga thinks that the>comment was somehow
inappropriate and would malign her own reputation,>as if it could be
maligned any more than it already is. Ms hypocrisy>strikes again:-)))

Rich avoids the issue yet again.DC either made an error or he deliberately
misrepresented the posts.But then Rich also does this.

>I also find it EXTREMELY humorous that both Jan and Kaalga are calling>for
>an apology for this comment while they say absolutely nothing>about John
>Bain calling me a stalker for *once* crossposting a>discussion in mha about
>ADHD to an ADHD group.

Nope, for his behavior to Jan and to Connie.His recent rant against Jan was
typical. He has said he intends to post a similar rant on a regular basis,
claiming to be 'policing' the group.

He is undoubtedly a cyber stalker and Jan is his current target.>

Not only is it not wrong to crosspost in that instance, it is
highly>APPROPRIATE to do so

.This is part of the interchange I had with Rich last year over this issue

.----------------Subject: Re: RitalinFrom: J BainSITo:
misc.health.alternativeDate: 09/06/2000Rich <kalalau@hawaii.rr.com>
writes:<snip>>I am truly sorry that I made her aware of this support group

You didn't 'make her aware of it' until confusion set in, you crossposted
her
to it, deliberately.>

The last thing that>you need is Jan Drew mail bombing your group with her
nonsense.

How can she do this, she is only posting to MHA, like me.If anyone thinks
ASA-D should read this, please repost it to them

>Again>I apologize to ADAD and encourage all of you to keep up the good work

You should apologise, but for your own behavior

.>I will continue to try to keep posters on mha honest and challenge
the>very dubious claims.

And you do not consider Andrew's, acupuncture 'disharmonies' are legally
defined in the Florida statutes, is a dubious claim.No, you pick on people
and if they challenge you, killfile them.

>I sure wish some of you ADAP guys would help me>out over at mha. It sure is
>difficult doing this short handed and I>bet you guys have more energy than
>I do:-))-----------------------------------------------

Jan did not mailbomb or post to ADA-D at all. Rich did it all and
deliberately tried to deceive the posters there.Rich is a cyberstalker and
he has been stalking Jan for a long time.

Best wishes--

John Bain

>Before certain people suggest that others look at someone's posting history
>it might behoove them to wonder what someone might think ifthey looked at
>THAT person's posting history. But often these peopleh ave not a clue how
>obnoxious and abusive they have been.

Aloha

Rich
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What is sadder is that Jan has two parents with Alzheimers disease who live
with her brother who she has accused in the past of being abusive
to her father. Why is Jan not spending more time with her ailing parents and
less time posting her drivel??

Jan says that this is the "happiest time of my life". How is that possible
with two parents with Alzheimers Disease?? Something just does not add up.

But maybe her parents are better off not having Jan take care of them. Her
intolerance and lack of understanding are not good qualities for someone
taking care of someone with Alzheimers Disease. Maybe they are better off
with her brother.

Let us all pray that Jan's parents pass quietly and peacefully. Lord knows
what they must be enduring.

You don't know how much longer your parents will be on this earth.

You waste so much time in this newsgroup when you have two parents who may
be close to death.

You say this is the "happiest time of your life" when you have two parents
in end stage Alzheimers who do not even recognize you, by your own
admission. Happiest time of your life with two parents dying a horrible
death???? And you call yourself a loving child. And you think that your
parents would be proud of you NOW??? Have you lost touch with reality??

Unfortunately they had no control over how their children would turn out and
whether they would be there in their time of need. They may not know who
you are but God sure knows that you are not spending as much time with them
as you should.

You are just a very selfish person who thinks about her own happiness at the
expense of her parents who are dying a horrible disease.

Having loving children spend as much time as they can with them IS something
that they could really use. The choice is yours. Think about it. After they
pass you will no longer be able to spend time with them. Time is limited.
They are your parents after all.

God is watching. You cannot fool him with your rationalizations about why
you spend so much time on usenet when the time could better be spent with
your parents.

Go visit your parents.

Just like Jan is happier than she has ever been even though she has two
parents dying of Alzheimers

Please get into therapy!!!!!!! Denying that your parents are dying is not
a healthy thing. It is terribly hard to accept the impending loss of loved
ones, but denial is NOT the answer. As much as it may hurt your pride to
accept Rich's words & advice, he is correct. You are spending your time
away from them (here on usenet) AND are even denying that at their age and
in their condition that they are, in fact, dying.

Please find a good therapist (none of that TFT bullshit) and spend time with
your parents while you still can. Usenet will be hear when you have gotten
your priorities in order. Honor your mother & father, Jan, they won't be
here forever.

Remember when I told you that you should visit your parents more often
because they may not have much more time left in this world and you
told me that I had no idea what I was talking about because your parents
were NOT dying. Within weeks of my comment your father died.
Perhaps without even seeing your parents I know more about their illness
than you do.

And your loving nature is equally evident. OTOH maybe it is better that you
DON'T visit your mother. She has enough problems as it is.

And since your mother is now staying with you it might be helpful to spend
quality time with her rather than working yourself up in this newsgroup.

You have clearly gone on record saying that you worked hard all your life
and now that you are retired you want to enjoy the good life which is why
you choose to not spend that much time with your mother. Hopefully you will
not resent your mother when her Alzheimer's Disease makes her difficult and
frustrating to care for.

( and after my Dad's death,,,,,,,God rest his soul)

I am glad that you have finished grieving over the tragic loss of your
father.
It took me a lot longer than that to finish grieving over the loss ofmy
parents. It looks like *you* have not missed a beat.

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Rich.@. - 19 Sep 2005 09:14 GMT

>Jan, the anti-semite

No lie there. It is the complete truth. Below are examples of Jan's
anti-semitism:

http://tinyurl.com/3n65w

>- begin collection of Jan's comments -------
>> >Their are Jews here and there are atheists,
>> >(they are the ones who have told the group) with the
>> >exception of IIena, they have proven themselves
>> >to be liars, deceitful and insulters.

>> >Furthmore, I called Andrew Kingoff a Jew Boy when
>> >he posted the stupid blasphemy of the 10 commandments
>> >here on the ng.

>> >That's because most every atheist and jew here
>> >has INDEED lied. They know it,
>> >yet they cover for each other.

>> >The group here are mostly atheists and jews,
>> >(who falsely believe they are enlightened) and need
>> >to have an argument going, thinking they can boast their
>> >ego. They tell lies, twist what is said, and IMHO
>> >are lead by Satan.

>> >The truth is that most debunkers on MHA
>> >who LIE through their tetth, do nothing
>> >but belittle, and are filled with hate, are atheists or jews.

>> >I repeat:
>> >The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

>> >No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived
>> >as Eve was when Satan debunked
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> >debunked his miracles whch happened right
>> >before their eyes.

>> >Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him.
>> >They debunked all his words and works,
>> >and now debunking and lies are second
>> >nature to them. That is how Satan works.

>> >Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

>> >It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng,
>> >with their vile false accusations and they are all filled
>> >with hate.

>> >It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even
>> >for the holocaust. When noone here was in any way
>> >involved.

>> >The ones of the *gang* who have proclaimed they are Jewish,
>> >have indeed lied, insulted and they are filled with hate.

>> >Indeed, the Jews and atheists on this ng have lied over
>> >and over, as well as posting nasty hateful lying websites
>> >trying to personally trash. That is the facts.

>> >There is an EXCELLENT example of one hate filled jew
>> >(on this ng).

>> >To say the JewS rejected Christ, is NOT anti-semitism,,,
>> >IT IS THE TRUTH.
>> >To say Satan is the king of all liars, and leads those

>> >who practice lying is NOT anti-semitism,,,IT IS THE TRUTH.
>> >To say the Jew on this ng are liars, is NOT anti-semtisim, ,,,
>> >IT IS THE TRUTH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.

>> >We have seen every single Jew here lie, but it isn't limited
>> >to them.

>> >What's the big deal? Calling you a jew boy was
>> >exactly because you are a jew. The same as you
>> >calling me a methodist or baptist girl.
>> >It doesn't even come close to all the names
>> >you have called and your constant trash talk.

>> >Little do you know anything about the
>> >*10 Commandments* Jew Boy.

>> >>>Thank you, and expect to be attacked by Mark Probert, a jew.

>> >>>> Funny how *these Jew people* run around calling everybody that
>disagrees

>> >>>> with them anti-Semitic and have no clue what they are even saying.
>> >Richard H Jacobson (which I learned was a Jew just last week)

>> ><end of comments>

>Jesus, the Jew Boy

>Jan saying that Catholics who pray to
>saints are agents of Satan.

Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from
Satan.

Jan

>After all she must create a diversion after I exposed her egregious
>hypocrisy and
>her wanton disregard of the Ten Commandments.

<snip diversions after I exposed her egregious hypocrisy, bigotry and
wanton disregard of the ten commandments>

Aloha,

Rich

PS: I wonder why Jan Drew is unable to sleep tonight. Could it be that
it is her guilt that brings unrest. Sad that.

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Rich.@. - 19 Sep 2005 10:19 GMT

>Jesus, the Jew Boy

http://tinyurl.com/bxld9

>>.and wasn't Jesus a "Jew boy"?
>
>Jan Drew says:
>Yes.

Here Jan Drew admits that Jesus was a Jew Boy. But in this thread she
accuses me of lying about that. Jan has trouble keeping her lies
straight. Like Jacob, Jan must lie to cover up her previous lies.

>He was there when the commandments were written.
> Jan, biblical scholar

Jesus was there when the Ten Commandments were written???

Poor Jan. Does not even know that Jesus was not even born when the Ten
Commandments was written which would make it quite a trick to have him
there. I guess he was there in spirit. In spirit even though he was
not yet born. Jesus is keeping track of Jan's words, much to her
chagrin.

How is it possible for a Christian to not know that the Ten
Commandments preceded the birth of Christ?? Could it be that the self
proclaimed Christian is really an agent of Satan?? Her words certainly
suggest that.

Aloha,

Rich

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