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Jan Drew/ LadyLollipop's New Tactic
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Rich.@. - 15 Sep 2005 01:27 GMT Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being "cyberstalkers" simply for responding to her posts.
Respond to a post of hers with a critical comment and immediately you are branded as a "cyberstalker".
This recent tactic is very similar to her tactic of accusing anyone who endorses science based medicine that Jan Drew's disagrees with as members of or brainwashed by evil "organized medicine".
These tactics confirm that it is completely pointless to attempt to discuss anything with Jan Drew. However as I have said before it is important to expose her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry when appropriate.
Aloha,
Rich
PS: Cue Jan DRew to start a new thread "Rich's new tactic" or attacking me gratuitously in some other way. Cue Jan Drew to NOT address the FACT that she uses the "cyberstalker" label to do two things: 1)disparage the poster and 2) avoid dealing with the issue raised. ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 15 Sep 2005 14:29 GMT > Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing > her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > discuss anything with Jan Drew. However as I have said before it is > important to expose her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry when appropriate. Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts.
Rich - 15 Sep 2005 16:36 GMT >> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop > FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts. Great idea. You start, and we can all edit and refine it until it's perfect.
--Rich
LadyLollipop - 15 Sep 2005 22:41 GMT >>> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > --Rich Start with this:
RJ Are you sure my name is Richard Jacobson?? ilena>Is it or isn't it? RJ>Negative. Does this mean that I don't have to agree to Jan's request to cease and desist?? Of course her request presumes that I have been stalking and harassing her.
>I am grateful for one thing; that Richard Jacobson is not my real name. Unfortunately the Richard Jacobson that DOES live in Hawaii may not be too happy with my assuming his name for purposes of the internet especially given the recent events. He happens to live on a different island from me. I do plan to contact him to let him know that someone may try to harass him since he is listed in the phone book. =============================== Hiking The Kalalau Trail
Richard Jacobson (richj@cris.com) Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:27:34 -0500 (EST)
>Hawaii's premier backpacking trail, the Kalalau Trail on the island of Kauai still remains closed past Hanakoa due to the reconstruction of the trail near "crawler's ridge". Estimated date of completion is Mid May. Until then, camping will only be permitted in Hanakapiai and Hanakoa Valleys. I for one am anxious to have Kalalau open again. It has to be one of the finest trails in the world.
Aloha, Rich ------------------------ ------------------------ Richard H. Jacobson Always remember to put Horace before Descarte
LadyLollipop - 15 Sep 2005 22:26 GMT >> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop > FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts. Before Richard H Jacobson newest tactic of having his posts not archived
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 1,870 for author; Rich,@. Cue Jan. (0.31 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 58,900 for author ; Rich ,@. just watch (0.54 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 15,900 for author ; Rich ,@. I predict (0.48 seconds)
It is most clear who the cyberstalker is
The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting.
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
Mark Probert - 15 Sep 2005 22:33 GMT >>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>>her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > It is most clear who the cyberstalker is Yes, it is.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 2,520 for "Liar" author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.39 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 4,020 for "Rich" author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.37 seconds)
> The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting. Only to you.
Snip
> Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also. Sorry, Jan, but you cannot re-define a word to suit your illness. YOU are the cyberstalker and support a cyberstalker.
And, those are supported facts.
LadyLollipop - 16 Sep 2005 02:52 GMT >>>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>>>her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 2,520 for "Liar" > author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.39 seconds) Nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking, sad the FACT is we have so many L I A R S here, MANY of these LIES came for YOU.
> Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 4,020 for "Rich" > author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.37 seconds) Nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking, we have more than one Rich here.
>> The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting. > > Only to you. WRONG. The pattern was well established, long before I ever posted, which you DISHONESTLY snipped.
> Snip Restored:
The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting.
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
>> Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also. > > Sorry, Jan, but you cannot re-define a word to suit your illness. I re-defined nothing, and I have no illness.
http://tinyurl.com/7zw49
Common Characteristics of a Cyberstalker
a.. Paranoid b.. Self-centered c.. Arrogant d.. Delusional e.. Manipulative f.. Obsessional g.. Jealous h.. Possessive i.. Poor Social Skills j.. Poor Communication Skills k.. Predatory
<snip lies> ==========
It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
--------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
Mark Probert - 16 Sep 2005 16:41 GMT >>>>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>>>>her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking, sad the FACT is we have so many > L I A R S here, MANY of these LIES came for YOU. So you say...and the proof of that is above. Of course, it is only your opinion, and, all intelligent beings know you are wrong.
>>Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 4,020 for "Rich" >>author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.37 seconds) > > Nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking, we have more than one Rich > here. So what? You stalk both of them.
>>>The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting. >> >>Only to you. > > WRONG. The pattern was well established, long before I ever posted, which > you DISHONESTLY snipped. I did not dishonestly snip anything. I posted the word 'snip' to signify that I had snipped something. You are just so desperate to trash me, a Jew, that you will claim anything.
>>Snip Re-snip
>>>Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also. >> >>Sorry, Jan, but you cannot re-define a word to suit your illness. > > I re-defined nothing, and I have no illness. Sure you redefined cyberstalker. Merely responding to your drivel cannot be considered to be cyberstalking. Only to you.
As for you not having an illness...obsessive compulsive judgmental disorder (I made that up, but it sure does fit!).
> http://tinyurl.com/7zw49 > > Common Characteristics of a Cyberstalker > > a.. Paranoid Rich is not paranoid.
> b.. Self-centered Rich is not self-centerd.
> c.. Arrogant Rich is assuredly not arrogant.
> d.. Delusional Rich has no delusions.
> e.. Manipulative Rich is not manipulative.
> f.. Obsessional Rich is not obsessional.
> g.. Jealous Certainly not jealous of you.
> h.. Possessive Nope.
> i.. Poor Social Skills Many people enjoy chatting with him in this group.
> j.. Poor Communication Skills He writes quite clearly.
> k.. Predatory No evidence of that.
Sorry, Jan, but you cannot re-define a word to suit your illness. YOU are the cyberstalker and support a cyberstalker.
And, those are supported facts.
LadyLollipop - 17 Sep 2005 00:41 GMT >>>>>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>>>>>her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > So you say...and the proof of that is above. The proof of that is in YOUR posts, shown MANY times.
<snip>
>>>Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 4,020 for "Rich" >>>author:jdrew63929@aol.com (0.37 seconds) >> >> Nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking, we have more than one Rich >> here. <snip lie>
>>>>The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting. <snip lie>
>> WRONG. The pattern was well established, long before I ever posted, which >> you DISHONESTLY snipped. > > I did not dishonestly snip anything. I posted the word 'snip' to signify > that I had snipped something. You are just so desperate to trash me, a > Jew, that you will claim anything. And that is a lie, it matters not that you are a Jew, you LYING behavior is the problem.
You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995.
>>>Snip > > Re-snip Restore and more:
Note the NAME!!!!
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/15 Subject: Re: An apology and a question? Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
| Report Abuse It is really unfortunate. Paul has a MAJOR psychologic problem but unfortunately he has no insight into it. He blames ALL his problems on other people. His perception is that if only other people would conform to HIS world view then all will be well. His need to impose his own personal view of the world on others is so intense that even the slightest inference that someone may see things differently sets him off. He will of course say that I am an idiot which is his usual defense to anyone who disagrees with him. Paul wants the world to change to suit him. Unless he looks within himself he is going to live a long unhappy life of frustration (which of course he will deny saying how happy he is......does Paul sound happy to anyone here?)
Aloha, Rich
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/03 Subject: Re: Who licences healers?, was Re: Wanted: Herbal Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
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>: : I realize Paul that you think that I am making you out to be a : >sociopath but this is simply not the case. Perhaps you are : confusing me [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Rich is not paranoid.
>> b.. Self-centered > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > And, those are supported facts. You just proved yourself a liar again.
Rich.@. - 17 Sep 2005 01:07 GMT >And that is a lie, it matters not that you are a Jew, you LYING behavior is >the problem.
>>> Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him. >>> They debunked all his words and works, and now debunking and >>> lies are second nature to them. That is how Satan works. >>> Jan Drew/Lady Lollipop the Bigot If it does not matter if Mark is a Jew why does Jan say that lying comes second nature to Jews??
>> >>>Thank you, and expect to be attacked by Mark Probert, a jew. >> >>>Jan Wonder why Jan mentioned that Mark Probert was Jew if a person's religion does not matter?
>> >>>> Funny how *these Jew people* run around calling everybody that >disagrees >> >>>>Jan "Jew people"? But Jan is not anti-semitic.
>> >>>> with them anti-Semitic and have no clue what they are even saying. >> >Richard H Jacobson (which I learned was a Jew just last week) >> >Jan Wonder why Jan posted that she learned that Richard H. Jacobson was a Jew if it a person's religion does not matter?
Poor Jan. Like Jacob she needs to lie to cover up her previous lies.
To Jan it is VERY important if you are Jew since Jan believes that lying comes second nature to Jews. But Jan Drew is not anti-semitic. And Jan Drew had no idea that "Jew Boy" was a religious slur. Jan says that that is God's truth. May God have mercy on Jan's soul by using the lord's name in vain to lie.
In keeping with the subject of this thread I have talked about the hypocrite Jan Drew who spews her anti-semitic bigotry while denying that religion has anything to do with it. Lying and hypocrisy come second nature to Jan Drew. And the proof is her own words.
Aloha,
Rich
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 17 Sep 2005 01:31 GMT >>>>>>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >>>>>>>her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > And that is a lie, it matters not that you are a Jew, you LYING behavior is > the problem. the why do you post lists of Jews who you call liars? Why mention the religion at all?
Because it does matter to you.
> You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. Your pattern was established way before that.
>>>>Snip >> [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > > You just proved yourself a liar again. Not at all, bigot.
LadyLollipop - 17 Sep 2005 04:51 GMT >>>>>>>>Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments >>>>>>>>exposing [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > the why do you post lists of Jews who you call liars? Why mention the > religion at all? Different subject, different time.
> Because it does matter to you. Your statement above is false.
>> You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. > [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] > > Not at all, bigot. From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson)
Rich.@. - 17 Sep 2005 16:31 GMT >> the why do you post lists of Jews who you call liars? Why mention the >> religion at all? > >Different subject, different time. There is absolutely no justification to make a list of individuals Jan believes to be Jewish and call them all liars. Jan Drew is an anti-semite, bigot, hypocrite........
>> Because it does matter to you. > >Your statement above is false. And a liar. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
>>> Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him. >>> They debunked all his words and works, and now debunking and >>> lies are second nature to them. That is how Satan works. >>> Jan Drew/Lady Lollipop the Bigot If it does not matter if Mark is a Jew why does Jan say that lying comes second nature to Jews??
>> >>>Thank you, and expect to be attacked by Mark Probert, a jew. >> >>>Jan Wonder why Jan mentioned that Mark Probert was Jew if a person's religion does not matter?
>> >>>> Funny how *these Jew people* run around calling everybody that >disagrees >> >>>>Jan "Jew people"? But Jan is not anti-semitic.
>> >>>> with them anti-Semitic and have no clue what they are even saying. >> >Richard H Jacobson (which I learned was a Jew just last week) >> >Jan Wonder why Jan posted that she learned that Richard H. Jacobson was a Jew if it a person's religion does not matter?
Aloha,
Rich PS: Cue Jan Drew to again prove she is a stalker by trying to reveal what my real name is and stalk me in my personal life. Jan realizes that she cannot stop me from exposing her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry. She is foaming at the mouth.
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 17 Sep 2005 22:51 GMT snipo
>>>>>WRONG. The pattern was well established, long before I ever posted, >>>>>which you DISHONESTLY snipped. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Different subject, different time. That would tend to mean that my religion DOES matter to you since raising it is topical for you at the right time.
>>Because it does matter to you. > > Your statement above is false. It seems to be true, based on your claim that it was done on a differentn subject, different time.
>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >> >>Your pattern was established way before that. LadyLollipop - 18 Sep 2005 01:02 GMT > snipo > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > That would tend to mean that my religion DOES matter to you since raising > it is topical for you at the right time. That would be that posting the *truth* was the subject at that time.
>>>Because it does matter to you. >> >> Your statement above is false. > > It seems to be true, based on your claim that it was done on a differentn > subject, different time. Totally irrevelant.
Your statement above is false, has nothing whatsoever to do with a different time, nor a different subject.
>>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >>> >>>Your pattern was established way before that. Making another complete fool of yourself, *AGAIN*, Mark, I did not own a computer back in 1995, my first posting ever, was in 1999.
Back to the subject:
Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:2HeWe.6577$TA2.283@fe09.lga...
> Rich.@. wrote: >> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being >> "cyberstalkers" simply for responding to her posts.
>> Respond to a post of hers with a critical comment and immediately you are >> branded as a "cyberstalker".
>> This recent tactic is very similar to her tactic of accusing anyone who >> endorses science based medicine that Jan Drew's disagrees with as members >> of or brainwashed by evil "organized medicine".
>> These tactics confirm that it is completely pointless to attempt to >> discuss anything with Jan Drew. However as I have said before it is >> important to expose her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry when appropriate.
> Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop > FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts. Before Richard H Jacobson newest tactic of having his posts not archived
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 1,870 for author; Rich,@. Cue Jan. (0.31 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 58,900 for author ; Rich ,@. just watch (0.54 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 15,900 for author ; Rich ,@. I predict (0.48 seconds)
It is most clear who the cyberstalker is
The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting.
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
--------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/15 Subject: Re: An apology and a question? Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
| Report Abuse It is really unfortunate. Paul has a MAJOR psychologic problem but unfortunately he has no insight into it. He blames ALL his problems on other people. His perception is that if only other people would conform to HIS world view then all will be well. His need to impose his own personal view of the world on others is so intense that even the slightest inference that someone may see things differently sets him off. He will of course say that I am an idiot which is his usual defense to anyone who disagrees with him. Paul wants the world to change to suit him. Unless he looks within himself he is going to live a long unhappy life of frustration (which of course he will deny saying how happy he is......does Paul sound happy to anyone here?)
Aloha, Rich
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/03 Subject: Re: Who licences healers?, was Re: Wanted: Herbal Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
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>: : I realize Paul that you think that I am making you out to be a : >sociopath but this is simply not the case. Perhaps you are : confusing me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >pathologic narcissism. You seem to : be afflicted with the latter and not >the former. : Aloha,
Rich
Rich - 18 Sep 2005 01:15 GMT > That would be that posting the *truth* was the subject at that time. Hmmm. The subject and time don't seem to matter too much to you when you keep reposting my "I don't care..." statement. Hypocrisy thy name is Jan Drew.
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--Rich
Recommended websites:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/
LadyLollipop - 18 Sep 2005 06:06 GMT <snip more diversion, lying websites, and harassment>
Back to the subject.
>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message >> news:stJWe.7366$TA2.721@fe09.lga... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > That would tend to mean that my religion DOES matter to you since raising > it is topical for you at the right time. That would be that posting the *truth* was the subject at that time.
>>>Because it does matter to you. >> >> Your statement above is false. > > It seems to be true, based on your claim that it was done on a differentn > subject, different time. Totally irrevelant.
Your statement above is false, has nothing whatsoever to do with a different time, nor a different subject.
>>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >>> >>>Your pattern was established way before that. Making another complete fool of yourself, *AGAIN*, Mark, I did not own a computer back in 1995, my first posting ever, was in 1999.
Back to the subject:
Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:2HeWe.6577$TA2.283@fe09.lga...
> Rich.@. wrote: >> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being >> "cyberstalkers" simply for responding to her posts.
>> Respond to a post of hers with a critical comment and immediately you are >> branded as a "cyberstalker".
>> This recent tactic is very similar to her tactic of accusing anyone who >> endorses science based medicine that Jan Drew's disagrees with as members >> of or brainwashed by evil "organized medicine".
>> These tactics confirm that it is completely pointless to attempt to >> discuss anything with Jan Drew. However as I have said before it is >> important to expose her lies, hypocrisy and bigotry when appropriate.
> Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop > FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts. Before Richard H Jacobson newest tactic of having his posts not archived
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 1,870 for author; Rich,@. Cue Jan. (0.31 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 58,900 for author ; Rich ,@. just watch (0.54 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 15,900 for author ; Rich ,@. I predict (0.48 seconds)
It is most clear who the cyberstalker is
The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting.
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
--------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/15 Subject: Re: An apology and a question? Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
| Report Abuse It is really unfortunate. Paul has a MAJOR psychologic problem but unfortunately he has no insight into it. He blames ALL his problems on other people. His perception is that if only other people would conform to HIS world view then all will be well. His need to impose his own personal view of the world on others is so intense that even the slightest inference that someone may see things differently sets him off. He will of course say that I am an idiot which is his usual defense to anyone who disagrees with him. Paul wants the world to change to suit him. Unless he looks within himself he is going to live a long unhappy life of frustration (which of course he will deny saying how happy he is......does Paul sound happy to anyone here?)
Aloha, Rich
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/06/03 Subject: Re: Who licences healers?, was Re: Wanted: Herbal Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
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>: : I realize Paul that you think that I am making you out to be a : >sociopath but this is simply not the case. Perhaps you are : confusing me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >pathologic narcissism. You seem to : be afflicted with the latter and not >the former. : Aloha,
Rich
Rich - 18 Sep 2005 10:46 GMT > <snip more diversion, lying websites, and harassment> > > Back to the subject. diversion d&-'v&r-zh&n noun Any true statement with which Jan disagrees.
harassment h&-'ras-ment noun Any true statement that annoys Jan so much that she has to snip it.
 Signature
--Rich
Recommended websites:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/
cathyb - 18 Sep 2005 11:31 GMT > > <snip more diversion, lying websites, and harassment> > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Any true statement that annoys Jan so much that she has to snip it. > -- lie laI noun
1. Any true statement with which Jan disagrees.
2. Any joke that Jan doesn't get. This includes all jokes.
3. Any literary allusion. Any at all.
Cathy
> --Rich > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://www.skeptic.com/ > http://www.csicop.org/ LadyLollipop - 18 Sep 2005 22:41 GMT >> > <snip more diversion, lying websites, and harassment> >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > 1. Any true statement with which Jan disagrees EXCELLENT example of a lie, from a LIAR,
lie noun
1 a : an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive b : an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker 2 : something that misleads or deceives
> 2. Any joke that Jan doesn't get. This includes all jokes. belittle verb
1 : to speak slightingly of : DISPARAGE <belittles her efforts> 2 : to cause (a person or thing) to seem little or less
> 3. Any literary allusion. Any at all. Belittling others: This happens when one feels he is superior to others. ...
http://specialed.about.com/cs/behaviordisorders/a/bully.htm
Bullies others and can be quite a manipulator. Is frequently involved in name calling and likes to make fun of others. Antagonize others, involves himself in fighting or instigating fights or arguments and belittling others. The bully is described as being 'insensitive' to others. He likes to solve problems by winning fights and arguments. Aggressive bullies often threaten others. The bully loves power, is dominant and is usually 'guiltless'. The bully tends to be lacking in empathy and compassion.
> Cathy > >> --Rich Rich.@. - 18 Sep 2005 22:47 GMT >lie noun > >1 a : an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be >untrue with intent to deceive b : an untrue or inaccurate statement that may >or may not be believed true by the speaker >2 : something that misleads or deceives
>>http://tinyurl.com/6n3ax >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>>It began the minute some of the mercury was removed. >>>Jan Jan Drew knows she lied about her amalgam history. Jan Drew knows that she changed her story so that it would make it appear as if she really had mercury poisoning. And the proof is her own words.
Aloha,
Rich
PS: I absolutely guarantee that Jan cannot reconcile any of the claims I make about her and that if she responds it will be to attack me. Or she will selectively snip from this post. Most likely she will post a message "Rich cannot stop lying, bearing false witness and stalking". Just watch.
Jan Drew is a bigot, antisemite, liar and hypocrite.
>http://tinyurl.com/3mkjg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (on this ng) >Jan ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
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LadyLollipop - 18 Sep 2005 22:18 GMT >> <snip more diversion, lying websites, and harassment> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > noun > Any true statement that annoys Jan so much that she has to snip it. Thanks for that example of L Y I N G.
> --Rich I don't give a damn if Peter lies to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or the pope. Rich Shewmaker
Definition: Alternative medicine is the use of unproven methods to diagnose and treat disease by persons who are unqualified to diagnose and treat disease =====
It is most clear one can not believe Rich Shewmaker because he is a proven liar.
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It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
Rich.@. - 18 Sep 2005 22:47 GMT >Thanks for that example of L Y I N G.
>>http://tinyurl.com/6n3ax >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>>It began the minute some of the mercury was removed. >>>Jan Jan Drew knows she lied about her amalgam history. Jan Drew knows that she changed her story so that it would make it appear as if she really had mercury poisoning. And the proof is her own words.
Aloha,
Rich
PS: I absolutely guarantee that Jan cannot reconcile any of the claims I make about her and that if she responds it will be to attack me. Or she will selectively snip from this post. Most likely she will post a message "Rich cannot stop lying, bearing false witness and stalking". Just watch.
Jan Drew is a bigot, antisemite, liar and hypocrite.
>http://tinyurl.com/3mkjg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (on this ng) >Jan ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
Best defense to logic is ignorance
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Mark Probert - 18 Sep 2005 16:17 GMT >>snipo >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > That would be that posting the *truth* was the subject at that time. The truth as perceived by you, a well documented anti-semetic whacko.
>>>>Because it does matter to you. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Totally irrevelant. NOPE. Perfectly logical, and you just confirmed it above.
> Your statement above is false, has nothing whatsoever to do with a different > time, nor a different subject. That was YOU statement idiot.
>>>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >>>> >>>>Your pattern was established way before that. > > Making another complete fool of yourself, *AGAIN*, Mark, I did not own a > computer back in 1995, my first posting ever, was in 1999. Lepoards do not change their spots, and, the you getting a computer in 1999 did not make you a bigot overnight. You were a bigot way before then.
> Back to the subject: Yes, Jan Drew is a bigot.
LadyLollipop - 18 Sep 2005 22:48 GMT >>>snipo >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > The truth as perceived by you, a well documented anti-semetic whacko. "All truth passes through 3 stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident".
>>>>>Because it does matter to you. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Totally irrevelant. <snip>
>> Your statement above is false, has nothing whatsoever to do with a >> different time, nor a different subject. <snip, Mark's inability to follow>
>>>>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >>>>> >>>>>Your pattern was established way before that. >> >> Making another complete fool of yourself, *AGAIN*, Mark, I did not own a >> computer back in 1995, my first posting ever, was in 1999. <snip stupidity>
>> Back to the subject: <snip>
Before Richard H Jacobson newest tactic of having his posts not archived
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 1,870 for author; Rich,@. Cue Jan. (0.31 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 58,900 for author ; Rich ,@. just watch (0.54 seconds)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 15,900 for author ; Rich ,@. I predict (0.48 seconds)
It is most clear who the cyberstalker is
The pattern was clear long before I ever stated posting.
http://tinyurl.com/besb6
It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and starts foaming at the mouth. His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g
http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl
http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc
http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf
Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking and attacking me. Just watch. Just like clockwork. Sorry to belabor the obvious.
Somethings are so predictable
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Cue Mark Probert, who also has become a cyberstalker to attack me also.
Cue Rich Shewmaker to attack and harass
Cue any of the *gang* to attack
Mark Probert - 18 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT >>>>snipo >>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > First, it is ridiculed. Yes, so stop ridiculing what I post.
> Second, it is violently opposed. You do violence to logic and ethics.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident". Yes, I am accepted, and you are rejected.
>>>>>>Because it does matter to you. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > <snip> Restored:
NOPE. Perfectly logical, and you just confirmed it above.
>>>Your statement above is false, has nothing whatsoever to do with a >>>different time, nor a different subject. >> > <snip, Mark's inability to follow> Restored:
That was YOUR statement idiot.
>>>>>>>You very well know the pattern was well established, back in 1995. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > <snip stupidity> Restored:
Lepoards do not change their spots, and, the you getting a computer in 1999 did not make you a bigot overnight. You were a bigot way before then.
>>>Back to the subject: > > <snip> Restored:
Yes, Jan Drew is a bigot.
Rich.@. - 16 Sep 2005 01:52 GMT >PS: Cue Jan DRew to start a new thread "Rich's new tactic" or >attacking me gratuitously in some other way. Cue Jan Drew to NOT >address the FACT that she uses the "cyberstalker" label to do two >things: 1)disparage the poster and 2) avoid dealing with the issue >raised. And then right on cue comes this post. Some things are so predictable.
<snip>
>PS: Cue Jan to again ignore the FACT that she LIED about a doctor >losing his license. Cue Jan instead to attack me in a new thread and >call me a cyberstalker. Jan DRew is a REAL stalker. She repeatedly >posted what she believed to be my name, business address, and phone >number and then admits to calling both the number and others who she >believed might know me. Once again Jan Drew proves that she is a stalker. She repeatedly posts what she thinks is my real name. Not only that, she admits to trying to call me and those who might know me at what she believed was my business address.
I wonder if Jan Drew realizes that when she posts what she believes to be my name she exposes herself as a stalker. I suspect not. Sad that.
Jan realizes that she cannot dispute that she lied when she accused a doctor of losing his license. So like Jacob, Jan Drew lies to cover up previous lies. Sad that.
Aloha,
Rich
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Rich - 16 Sep 2005 14:27 GMT >> Recently Jan Drew has been completely dismissing any comments exposing >> her lies, bigotry and hypocrisy by accusing individuals of being [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Perhaps we need a well written, well documented "Jan Drew/LadyLillipoop > FAQ" that could be posted in response to all of her posts. Mark ==
Check your e-mail
--Rich
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