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LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 03:22 GMT
I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

They are ALL proven L I A R S.

They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
medicine with SUCCESS.

Jan/LadyLollipop
Rich.@. - 11 Sep 2005 03:43 GMT
>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

What do Jew, atheists or Jesus Christ have to do with mha?

>They are ALL proven L I A R S.

Poor Jan the bigot. Yes, according to Jan lying comes second nature to
Jews.

>They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
>harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
>medicine with SUCCESS.

Success?? You mean like your lie about having your life saved from
mercury poisoning from dental amalgams?

>>http://tinyurl.com/6n3ax
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>It began the minute some of the mercury was removed.  
>>>Jan

What a liar Jan Drew is. And she is not Jewish or atheist and she
believes in Jesus Christ as her lord and savior.

Jan Drew is such a hypocrite. She completely lies about a doctor
losing his license and bears false witness against him and won't even
own up to it. She is despicable.

>Jan/LadyLollipop, bigot

Aloha,

Rich

PS: Cue Jan to start a new thread attacking me. Just watch.

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Sdores - 11 Sep 2005 10:33 GMT
If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
Jew.  UM MOM Susan
>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jan/LadyLollipop
Mark Probert - 11 Sep 2005 15:19 GMT
Jan is one of those folks who, if she had been in Continental Europe in
the 1930's and 1940's, she would have thought that Kristallnacht was a
celebration.

> If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
> Jew.  UM MOM Susan
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>>Jan/LadyLollipop
LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 19:52 GMT
Point made!

> Jan is one of those folks who, if she had been in Continental Europe in
> the 1930's and 1940's, she would have thought that Kristallnacht was a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>>Jan/LadyLollipop
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 02:35 GMT
> Point made!

Don't be so proud of it. Kristallnacht was not a celebration.

>>Jan is one of those folks who, if she had been in Continental Europe in
>>the 1930's and 1940's, she would have thought that Kristallnacht was a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>>
>>>>Jan/LadyLollipop
Rich.@. - 11 Sep 2005 18:00 GMT
>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
>Jew.  UM MOM Susan

With all due respect Susan I think that it is unfair to condemn
Christianity because of the bigot Jan Drew. Jan Drew says she is a
Christian but her words belie such description. There are many loving
and tolerant Christians. Jan Drew just happens to be a hateful
intolerant one. Just as there are many loving Muslims. They all are
not Islamofascists who want to kill and terrorize others who don't
believe in their world vision.

>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> Jan/LadyLollipop

The truly sad thing is that Jan has no insight into her bigotry. She
just thinks she is telling the truth. Like Hitler, Jan DRew thinks
that lying comes second nature to Jews. Like Hitler Jan Drew thinks
Jews are trying to take over. Thankfully Jan Drew, unlike Hitler does
not have the power to do anything about it other than to spew her
religious bigotry in this newsgroup. Sad that.

Aloha,

Rich

PS: Cue Jan Drew to start a new thread attacking me gratuitously. Just
watch.

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Sdores - 11 Sep 2005 20:31 GMT
Sorry you are right and I shouldn't have said this.  UM MOM Susan

> With all due respect Susan I think that it is unfair to condemn
> Christianity because of the bigot Jan Drew. Jan Drew says she is a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> not Islamofascists who want to kill and terrorize others who don't
> believe in their world vision.
LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 21:24 GMT
Rich's with all due respect is *fake*, Susan.

These are his words:

Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like
> sh.tting in your pants because that's where your a.shole happened to be."

> Sorry you are right and I shouldn't have said this.  UM MOM Susan
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> not Islamofascists who want to kill and terrorize others who don't
>> believe in their world vision.
Rich.@. - 12 Sep 2005 01:21 GMT
>PS: Cue Jan Drew to start a new thread attacking me gratuitously. Just
>watch.

And then right on cue:

<snip>

Some things are so predictable.

Aloha,

Rich


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Best defense to logic is ignorance
LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 19:50 GMT
> If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
> Jew.  UM MOM Susan

Christians always tell the truth.

Jews and athiests OTOH make titles like:

To the group BIGOT!!

YOU just made my point.

Cue for other Jews and atheists to follow

>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> Jan/LadyLollipop
Orac - 11 Sep 2005 20:33 GMT
> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
> > Jew.  UM MOM Susan
>
> Christians always tell the truth.

ROTFLMAO!

Jan, Jan, Jan. Are not Christians human? Are you seriously telling me
that, as fallible human beings who frequently fall short of God's glory,
Christians never lie?

[Snip]

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LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 21:20 GMT
>> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>> > a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> that, as fallible human beings who frequently fall short of God's glory,
> Christians never lie?

Good Christian do their best to never lie.

> [Snip]

YOU lie everytime you post  this
Rich.@. - 12 Sep 2005 00:53 GMT
>>> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>>> > a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Good Christian do their best to never lie.

Jan need to try harder. Jan is obviously not a good Christian since
after she lies and it is brought to her attention instead of
acknowledging her lie she like Joseph lies again.

First Jan says that Christians never lie.
Then she says they do their best to never lie.
This means that some Christians do lie even though they do their best
and Jan LIED when she said that Christians never lie.

Jan says that she is a Christian. She lies frequently. Here is just
one of her lies:

>>http://tinyurl.com/6n3ax
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>It began the minute some of the mercury was removed.  
>>>Jan

>>> http://tinyurl.com/674oy
>>>On June 26, 1999 Jan Drew said:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>>>>>There's never been any arguement about the fact that removing amalgams puts
>>>>>>>more mercury in the body.

>>Your words come back to bite you.
>>
>>Jan

Aloha,

Rich

Cue Jan to start a new thread attacking me. Just watch.

>> [Snip]
>
>YOU lie everytime you post  this

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 02:44 GMT
>>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Good Christian do their best to never lie.

OOPS...does that mean you lied when you said that "Christians always
tell the truth"?????????????????????????????
LadyLollipop - 12 Sep 2005 04:14 GMT
>>>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>>>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> OOPS...does that mean you lied when you said that "Christians always tell
> the truth"?????????????????????????????

No, it means on second thought, I needed to rephrase it.

Most any intelligent person could figure that out.

Cue for any of the *gang* to follow.
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 04:17 GMT
>>>>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>>>>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Most any intelligent person could figure that out.

I was merely checking...so you do give yourself latitude when it comes
to what you write....when will you extend that to the rest of the world?
Rich.@. - 12 Sep 2005 04:41 GMT
>No, it means on second thought, I needed to rephrase it.

Let's see. Jan Drew says that Christians never lie.
Then she says that Christians try not to lie.

She calls that "rephrasing". She said she needed to rephrase it. Could
it be because her first statement was a lie??

I say that Jan posted what she thought was my address.
Then I say that Jan posted what she thought was my business address.
She calls that a lie.

I wonder why Jan does not think I just rephrased (clarified) it??

In the first case it is a lie that Christians never lie.
In the second case it is true that Jan posted both what she thought
was my address and what she thought was my business address since the
general address could be either (business or residential).

Poor Jan. Like Joseph she has to cover up lies with more lies. Sad
that.

Aloha,

Rich

PS: Cue for Jan to start a new thread attacking me. Just watch.

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Orac - 15 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
> >>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
> >>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> OOPS...does that mean you lied when you said that "Christians always
> tell the truth"?????????????????????????????

You know, it reminds me of that one Star Trek episode with the androids
who were perfectly logical. Kirk and crew got them to short circuit by
having Spock telling them, "This man always lies." Then Mudd said, "I'm
lying to you now." The androids started going on and on about how, if
Mudd's lying, then he must be telling the truth, but Mudd's telling the
truth would contradict the statement that Mudd always lies. And on and
on...

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           | interested in trying to compensate for your amazing lack
           | of observation."
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David Wright - 15 Sep 2005 05:05 GMT
>> >>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>> >>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>truth would contradict the statement that Mudd always lies. And on and
>on...

Actually, it was Kirk who told Norman "Everything Harry tells you is a
lie."

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
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Happy Dog - 15 Sep 2005 13:42 GMT
"David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in
>>You know, it reminds me of that one Star Trek episode with the androids
>>who were perfectly logical. Kirk and crew got them to short circuit by
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Actually, it was Kirk who told Norman "Everything Harry tells you is a
> lie."

Yes.  The OP might be thinking of the Two Guard Puzzle.  Or maybe Vos
Savant's counter-intuitive Three Door Dilemma.  Harry just wasn't a well
developed character.  Better than the Ferengie though.  Not as good as Q.

moo
Orac - 17 Sep 2005 18:49 GMT
> In article
> <orac_usa-A310E2.20370014092005@optonline.svc.highwinds-media.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Actually, it was Kirk who told Norman "Everything Harry tells you is a
> lie."

OK, OK, picky.

Now I'll have to go to my DVD collection and check...

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Mark Probert - 15 Sep 2005 14:34 GMT
>>>>>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>>>>>>a
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> truth would contradict the statement that Mudd always lies. And on and
> on...

One of my favorites. Jan should watch it and learn.
David Wright - 13 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
>> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
>> > Jew.  UM MOM Susan
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>that, as fallible human beings who frequently fall short of God's glory,
>Christians never lie?

Orac, it's simple.  If someone lies, then that person isn't a
Christian.

We can reasonably make the case that editing postings to make it look
like someone said something they did not is a form of lying.  Jan does
this all the time, and is therefore lying.  Thus, she is not a
Christian.  

Logic is such fun.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
                                -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
cathyb - 11 Sep 2005 23:59 GMT
> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
> > Jew.  UM MOM Susan
>
> Christians always tell the truth.

I suppose that in the story when Peter denied Jesus, that was because
he was a Jew, not because of his christianity.

But how does Jan explain her own myriad lies? For instance, she has
actually claimed not to be a bigot, and yet starts this vile thread.

> Jews and athiests OTOH make titles like:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Cue for other Jews and atheists to follow

Has the nice christian lady decided to drop her pretence that she is
not a vile anti-semitic, lying bigot?

Apparently so.

> >>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
> >>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
> >>
> >> They are ALL proven L I A R S.

Definitely so.

> >> They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
> >> harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
> >> medicine with SUCCESS.
> >>
> >> Jan/LadyLollipop
LadyLollipop - 12 Sep 2005 00:47 GMT
Cue for other Jews and atheists to follow

Right on Cue.

"cathyb" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.

<snip>

>> > If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am
>> > a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Cue for other Jews and atheists to follow

>> >>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>> >>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> >>
>> >> Jan/LadyLollipop
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 02:43 GMT
>>If this is the kind of behavior for a Christian than I am thankful I am a
>>Jew.  UM MOM Susan
>
> Christians always tell the truth.

I see...so Dr. Wilson is not a Christian?

How do you know?

> Jews and athiests OTOH make titles like:

We are good writers...have been writing for over 5700 years...

> To the group BIGOT!!

Well, that does describe you.

> YOU just made my point.
>
> Cue for other Jews and atheists to follow

Yes, you did just make my point.

>>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>
>>>Jan/LadyLollipop
Rich.@. - 12 Sep 2005 02:49 GMT
>Christians always tell the truth.

Christians lie just like everyone else. Christians are no different
from other people or religions with respect to lying. They sin just
like everyone else.

Jan Drew knows that only Jesus Christ is without sin. So why does she
lie by saying that Christians ALWAYS tell the truth. The answer is
that she is a liar proving that Christians don't always tell the truth
assuming that Jan is a Christian.

In fact if one were a bigot one would say that Christians often lie if
they used Jan Drew as an example of a Christian.

Aloha,

Rich

PS: Cue Jan to start a new thread gratuitously attacking me. Just
watch.

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
cathyb - 11 Sep 2005 11:03 GMT
> I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
> atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jan/LadyLollipop

Is this another instance of Lollipop trying to prove she is not an
anti-semitic, bigoted liar?

Shame on her.
Mark Probert - 11 Sep 2005 15:18 GMT
> I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
> atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Oh, well...just another URL to file aways demonstrating that Jan is a
bigot.

> They are ALL proven L I A R S.

Only in the Satan controlled mind of Jan Drew.

> They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
> harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
> medicine with SUCCESS.
>
> Jan/LadyLollipop
LadyLollipop - 11 Sep 2005 20:17 GMT
>> I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>> atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Only in the Satan controlled mind of Jan Drew.

They are ALL proven LIARS

The proof has been shown here many times.

>> They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
>> harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
>> medicine with SUCCESS.
>>
>> Jan/LadyLollipop
Rich.@. - 12 Sep 2005 00:53 GMT
>They are ALL proven LIARS
>
>The proof has been shown here many times.

>>>http://tinyurl.com/6n3ax
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>>
>>>Jan

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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 02:46 GMT
>>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> The proof has been shown here many times.

By you, a "Christian" who violates the 10C's.

>>>They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
>>>harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
>>>medicine with SUCCESS.
>>>
>>>Jan/LadyLollipop
LadyLollipop - 12 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT
>>>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> By you, a "Christian" who violates the 10C's.

Showing proof of the liars here in not violation of the 10C's.

Sadly there are MANY here who LIE daily.

YOU are an example.

You have told several today.

Cue for any of the *gang* to follow this post.

>>>>They are here to protect *organized medicine* and their *evil*, and to
>>>>harass any and ALL who expose this evil or who have used alternative
>>>>medicine with SUCCESS.
>>>>
>>>>Jan/LadyLollipop
Mark Probert - 12 Sep 2005 04:18 GMT
>>>>>I guess you have figured out by now, you are speaking to a group of
>>>>>atheists, or Jews, who did not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Showing proof of the liars here in not violation of the 10C's.

Do not try to divert from your violation of the 10C's.

Snip feeble diversion.
 
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