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Jan Drew NOW calls me Johnny!

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Johnny Huang - 09 Sep 2005 20:42 GMT
I want to thank Susan for pointing out something I noticed, but did not
mention.

Before the female caller spoke with me, Jan called me "Ted".

After the female caller spoke with me, Jan calls me "Johnny".

I don't believe that this is a coincidence!

Jan Drew, STOP CYBER-STALKING ME!

Jan Drew, STOP CYBER-STALKING!

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"LadyLollipop" <LadyLolli...@insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:uC2Ue.335367$xm3.40160@attbi_s21...

<snip>

> I did not know that, but that it a great idea. Do that Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You kept calling him Ted and now since he posted about a phone call you
are
calling him Johnny, WHY???? (extra question marks for Jan)  He said the

person who called asked for Ted, amazingly like you were calling him.
I
didn't, for the record say that you were the caller and only said that
stalking people was something that the FBI takes seriously, you are the
one
that assumed I was speaking of you.  Your name was in the subject line
but
that doesn't put it in my words. The out side activity and always
trying to
find out personal information about people is what is disturbing to me.
And
your slamming me with your nasty responses brings to mind, "sticks and
stones".  UM MOM Susan, and I don't give a damn who's mother you are
that is
not what my sign off means.
LadyLollipop - 09 Sep 2005 22:53 GMT
>I want to thank Susan for pointing out something I noticed, but did not
> mention.
>
> Before the female caller spoke with me, Jan called me "Ted".

Umm, not, I called you Teddy.

> After the female caller spoke with me, Jan calls me "Johnny".
>
> I don't believe that this is a coincidence!

Lots of things you seem to believe, you have NOT posted proof of ONE SINGLE
accusation you have made.

WHY IS THAT JOHNNY/TEDDY, whoever?????

> Jan Drew, STOP CYBER-STALKING ME!

ROTFLOL

> Jan Drew, STOP CYBER-STALKING!

ROTFLOL.

Johnny/Teddy, whoever you are, you have a growing list of accusations you
are made about me.

Step right up and PROVE THEM, OTHERWISE ALL WILL KNOW YOU ARE A L I A R!

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> "LadyLollipop" <LadyLolli...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> that is
> not what my sign off means.

"Sdores" <sdo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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> <snip>

>> I did not know that, but that it a great idea. Do that
>> Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> You kept calling him Ted and now since he posted about a phone call you
> are calling him Johnny, WHY???? (extra question marks for Jan)

NO particular reason, Susan

He said the

> person who called asked for Ted, amazingly like you were calling him.

He said a lot of things, his list keeps growing. He has NOT been able to
answer a SINGLE claim he has made, Susan!!!!!!(extra exclamation marks for
Susan)

>I  didn't, for the record say that you were the caller and only said that

> stalking people was something that the FBI takes seriously, you are the
> one that assumed I was speaking of you.

Sure, Susan, sure.

 >Your name was in the subject line but  that doesn't put it in my words.

Uh huh, Susan.

>The out side activity and always trying to find out personal information
about people is what is disturbing to me.

You are pathetic, Susan. You thought nothing of *impersonation* which is a
criminal offense, now you are in an uproar over a *reported* telephone call,
by a liar and *insulter* who cannot answer questions.

> And  your slamming me with your nasty responses brings to mind, "sticks
> and

> stones".

Right backatcha, Susan.

UM MOM Susan, and I don't give a damn who's mother you are that is

> not what my sign off means.

I know what your sign off says.

Sorry that ONCE AGAIN, you focus seems to be on me.

Very telling you prefer to overlook the below.

"Johnny Huang" <johnny_huang_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> And am I the only one to notice that she has now apparently decided that
> Rich Shewmaker is Aloha Rich? They both come from Hawaii so they must be
> the same person.
> No, I noticed it, too.

Let's see just *where* both of you noticed it.

Now don't forget to answer, that means *both* of you.

At first, I thought they were the same person

> because of Jan's replies.

Do post these EXACT replies.

Now don't forget to answer.

You list keeps growing.

> Why does she think that everyone she disagrees with is the same person?

I don't.

> Is she really that sick or is this just her way of insulting people who
> disagree with her?

You mean sick like this?

>I don't know what is wrong with Jan, but I wish she would choke to

> death on her anger

I see you are still eager to talk about me.

Still waiting for you to answer.

You list keeps growing.

> I think that if anyone is paid to post here, it must be her.  Nobody posts
> are often

It that right?

Have you counted everyones' posts?

Don't forget to answer.

and nobody does as much harm to the cause of

> alternative medicine.

Be specific.

Do show us exactly what your opinion is of how I have harm the cause of
alternative medicine.

Now don't forget to answer.

You are falling behind on your list.

Here it is again.

I wonder why you post so frequently yet

> so seldom discuss alternative medicine.

You don't say?

You wouldn't wonder that about, say, Mark Probert? Richard H Jacobson?  Mark
Thorson? Or any of your buddies, would you Teddy? Now don't forget to
answer.

After you answer that, could you show us exactly where there were any words
of harm, rage and wrath, and shameful behavior in this thread?

Now don't forget to answer.

Did I mention, not to forget to answer?

I'll wait.

I guarantee 99.9999999% Richard H Jacobson PROVEN cyberstalker will reply to
this post with more of his lies. see below.

Note he says many of the EXACT SAME THINGS about this poster as he says
about me.He was the same trouble maker then also. Somethings never change.
This was back in 1995. OH YES, he is a PROVEN CYBERSTALKER.

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     From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this
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e...@bkfug.kfunigraz.ac.at wrote:
>In Article <3s6rs0$...@rigel.pixi.com> richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson)
>writes: [snip]
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>on the basis of the communication here - question it as seriously as
>calling them dangerous.

Yes Margot I could certainly understand how you could be surprised
at my questioning a person's character just on the basis of
what is posted here. While it is certainly true that a face to face
meeting with someone might provide a more definitive judge of
character IMO based upon what Paul has written AND the nature
of his responses I would definitely say that he could be a VERY
dangerous character indeed. Let me explain. For those who have
followed Paul's responses to people who question or challenge
him it appears clear that #1 he is extremely sensitive to
criticism and reacts in a verbally violent way to even mild
challenges #2 he manipulates the English language to avoid
being wrong at all costs #3 he has made physically threatening
remarks to me #4 he demonstrates a rigidity and paranoia where
he feels very threatened. These qualities manifested by his post,
while not absolute proof in any sense, do SUGGEST that he
has the capability of being quite dangerous. Not to mention how
he, without seeing or evaluating a patient can give dogmatic
advice often telling them to avoid a conventional doctor. Some
of the things that Paul suggested could be downright dangerous
especially with regard to stopping steroids that may be life saving.
Paul tries to rigidly adhere to a system of healing and excludes
anything physiologic or anatomic that challenges it.

Moreover, what puts you into

>the category of opinion-manipulator (and fanatic) to me is that you are
>attempting to challenge someone in a field of his expertise, after having
>demonstrated that you are not knowledgeable in the field.

While I am not knowledgeable in herbals I AM knowledgeable
in conventional medicine and if you could find a single error
in any of my posts regarding anatomy, physiology or
pharmacology please feel free to challenge me. I welcome
intelligent challenges based upon literature. Whenever I ask
for any validation of what Paul says he blows me and other
people off with his insults. His suggestion to use diuretics
to treat BPH is downright wrong as I am many others have
stated. If you choose to believe him Margot go right ahead.
We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Only one TCM- person here ever challenged Paul professionally,

>others have commented on his high level of knowledge a number of times. And
>you go and scream "soandso proved you wrong - I *knew* all along a guy with
>your attitude can be no good" - or to the same effect.

When did I say "I knew right along" or anything of that sort. I knew
when Paul first posted about diuretics for BPH that he was giving
bad advice and I posted the reasons for this.

>I am one of those readers who *did* decide for themselves, Rich. I take an
>argumentative *knowledgeable*

I respect you for your opinion but respectfully disagree. Paul is VERY
good at convincing people that he has special knowledge and certainly
he knows his herbs. There is a big difference between knowing herbs
and knowing how to apply them to human illnesses. His rigid adherence
to his theory prevents him from seeing any other point of view. I am
open to hearing the other side. Paul will not give the information
however. If you ask me to give you information to verify what I am
saying I will be glad to.

person anytime over the empty 'agree to

>disagree' thing.

Well what do you suggest Margot that we beat each other to a pulp. If
we don't agree to disagree then what shall we do. I certainly am
not going to agree with something that I believe is not right. What
would YOU do???

There are moments in life when only one thing can be

>done, decisions have to be made and no one can agree to disagree then.

You are quite right. I was just saying that we could agree to disagree
about our opinions. How do you resolve arguments Margot when
you think one thing and the other person thinks another. Do you
give in to the other person? I don't if I feel I am right. So we could
agree to disagree about using diuretics for BPH. Paul will give it
to his patient, I would not so we agree to disagree. Does that make
sense Margot.

>From the traffic in the newsgroup *I* have gotten a favourable impression
>of Paul - you have not. Strange how two people can view the same situation
>and reach different conclusions, isn't it?

Not strange at all. You like many alternatavists have likely made up
your mind about conventional medicine and alternatives so of course
you are going to view things differently. How anyone could have a
favorable impression of Paul however does stretch the limits of
my comprehension especially considering his extremely abrasive manner
in speaking to people who are just trying to have a simple discussion.
I tried to communicate with Paul respectfully at first and then
realized that respect does not work with Paul. The only thing that
works for Paul is if you agree with him. So Margot, he has a real
friend in you and you don't have to worry about Paul being abusive
to you. You have figured out how to make Paul happy and he has
found a true friend indeed. And the way he communicates with
people he could use all the friends he could get.

Aloha,

Rich

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Aloha Rich Writes:   (edited)

>. This individual clearly is responsible for the great majority of posts in
>this newsgroup.

I gave enough stats to show that this delusion was wrong.
The person Aloha Rich refers to posted approx. 10% of the posts.
Steve Harris also posted just about the same amount of posts.

> He also seems most responsible for inhibiting the opinion of those who
> don't agree with him. Some of you like this poster and feel that he is
> knowledgeable and has much to offer. It is understandable why you feel
> this way. He seems to know what he is talking about and he never is wrong
> (at least never admits it).

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In article j...@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com, l...@ix.netcom.com (Judith A. Linn)
writes:

> Aloha Rich Writes:   (edited)
> >. This individual clearly is responsible for the great majority of posts
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> amount of your typing had to take that long. What about the reading and
> thinking?

Judith, I agree.  I've asked several questions in this newsgroup,
and Rich always has to respond, mostly negatively, and at great
length.  I will be glad to see him go, since he never really told
me anything but how wrong I was.  Since I've never made any claims
to understanding the treatments that have worked, I am less than
impressed.

Maybe we can now get on to the real questions
Mark Probert - 09 Sep 2005 23:00 GMT
>>I want to thank Susan for pointing out something I noticed, but did not
>>mention.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Lots of things you seem to believe, you have NOT posted proof of ONE SINGLE
> accusation you have made.

Neither have you.
LadyLollipop - 10 Sep 2005 00:50 GMT
<snip lie>

>>>I want to thank Susan for pointing out something I noticed, but did not
>>>mention.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> Lots of things you seem to believe, you have NOT posted proof of ONE
>> SINGLE accusation you have made.
Mark Probert - 10 Sep 2005 23:17 GMT
> <snip lie>
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>Lots of things you seem to believe, you have NOT posted proof of ONE
>>>SINGLE accusation you have made.

Jan, you snipped me again.

Of course, you have never proven one of your claims.
 
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