"Johnny Huang" <johnny_huang_2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Let's see just *where* both of you noticed it.

Now don't forget to answer, that means *both* of you.

At first, I thought they were the same person

Do post these EXACT replies.

Now don't forget to answer.

You list keeps growing.

I don't.

You mean sick like this?

I see you are still eager to talk about me.

Still waiting for you to answer.

You list keeps growing.

It that right?

Have you counted everyones' posts?

Don't forget to answer.

and nobody does as much harm to the cause of

Be specific.

Do show us exactly what your opinion is of how I have harm the cause of
alternative medicine.

Now don't forget to answer.

You are falling behind on your list.

Here it is again.

I wonder why you post so frequently yet

You don't say?

You wouldn't wonder that about, say, Mark Probert? Richard H Jacobson?  Mark
Thorson? Or any of your buddies, would you Teddy? Now don't forget to
answer.

After you answer that, could you show us exactly where there were any words
of harm, rage and wrath, and shameful behavior in this thread?

Now don't forget to answer.

Did I mention, not to forget to answer?

I'll wait.

I guarantee 99.9999999% Richard H Jacobson PROVEN cyberstalker will reply to
this post with more of his lies. see below.

Note he says many of the EXACT SAME THINGS about this poster as he says
about me.He was the same trouble maker then also. Somethings never change.
This was back in 1995. OH YES, he is a PROVEN CYBERSTALKER.

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     From: richj @pixi.com (Richard Jacobson) - Find messages by this
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     Date: 1995/06/23
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e...@bkfug.kfunigraz.ac.at wrote:

Yes Margot I could certainly understand how you could be surprised
at my questioning a person's character just on the basis of
what is posted here. While it is certainly true that a face to face
meeting with someone might provide a more definitive judge of
character IMO based upon what Paul has written AND the nature
of his responses I would definitely say that he could be a VERY
dangerous character indeed. Let me explain. For those who have
followed Paul's responses to people who question or challenge
him it appears clear that #1 he is extremely sensitive to
criticism and reacts in a verbally violent way to even mild
challenges #2 he manipulates the English language to avoid
being wrong at all costs #3 he has made physically threatening
remarks to me #4 he demonstrates a rigidity and paranoia where
he feels very threatened. These qualities manifested by his post,
while not absolute proof in any sense, do SUGGEST that he
has the capability of being quite dangerous. Not to mention how
he, without seeing or evaluating a patient can give dogmatic
advice often telling them to avoid a conventional doctor. Some
of the things that Paul suggested could be downright dangerous
especially with regard to stopping steroids that may be life saving.
Paul tries to rigidly adhere to a system of healing and excludes
anything physiologic or anatomic that challenges it.

Moreover, what puts you into

While I am not knowledgeable in herbals I AM knowledgeable
in conventional medicine and if you could find a single error
in any of my posts regarding anatomy, physiology or
pharmacology please feel free to challenge me. I welcome
intelligent challenges based upon literature. Whenever I ask
for any validation of what Paul says he blows me and other
people off with his insults. His suggestion to use diuretics
to treat BPH is downright wrong as I am many others have
stated. If you choose to believe him Margot go right ahead.
We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Only one TCM- person here ever challenged Paul professionally,

When did I say "I knew right along" or anything of that sort. I knew
when Paul first posted about diuretics for BPH that he was giving
bad advice and I posted the reasons for this.

I respect you for your opinion but respectfully disagree. Paul is VERY
good at convincing people that he has special knowledge and certainly
he knows his herbs. There is a big difference between knowing herbs
and knowing how to apply them to human illnesses. His rigid adherence
to his theory prevents him from seeing any other point of view. I am
open to hearing the other side. Paul will not give the information
however. If you ask me to give you information to verify what I am
saying I will be glad to.

person anytime over the empty 'agree to

Well what do you suggest Margot that we beat each other to a pulp. If
we don't agree to disagree then what shall we do. I certainly am
not going to agree with something that I believe is not right. What
would YOU do???

There are moments in life when only one thing can be

You are quite right. I was just saying that we could agree to disagree
about our opinions. How do you resolve arguments Margot when
you think one thing and the other person thinks another. Do you
give in to the other person? I don't if I feel I am right. So we could
agree to disagree about using diuretics for BPH. Paul will give it
to his patient, I would not so we agree to disagree. Does that make
sense Margot.

Not strange at all. You like many alternatavists have likely made up
your mind about conventional medicine and alternatives so of course
you are going to view things differently. How anyone could have a
favorable impression of Paul however does stretch the limits of
my comprehension especially considering his extremely abrasive manner
in speaking to people who are just trying to have a simple discussion.
I tried to communicate with Paul respectfully at first and then
realized that respect does not work with Paul. The only thing that
works for Paul is if you agree with him. So Margot, he has a real
friend in you and you don't have to worry about Paul being abusive
to you. You have figured out how to make Paul happy and he has
found a true friend indeed. And the way he communicates with
people he could use all the friends he could get.

Aloha,

Rich

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     From: l...@ix.netcom.com (Judith A. Linn) - Find messages by this
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     Date: 1995/06/23
     Subject: Re: Reflections on dyscommunication
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Aloha Rich Writes:   (edited)

I gave enough stats to show that this delusion was wrong.
The person Aloha Rich refers to posted approx. 10% of the posts.
Steve Harris also posted just about the same amount of posts.

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     From: haga...@Trade-Zone.msfc.nasa.gov (Deborah A. Hagar) - Find
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     Date: 1995/06/23
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In article j...@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com, l...@ix.netcom.com (Judith A. Linn)
writes:

Judith, I agree.  I've asked several questions in this newsgroup,
and Rich always has to respond, mostly negatively, and at great
length.  I will be glad to see him go, since he never really told
me anything but how wrong I was.  Since I've never made any claims
to understanding the treatments that have worked, I am less than
impressed.

Maybe we can now get on to the real questions.