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OOOOPPPPPSSSSSS.

Poor Rich.

What was he saying about taking things out of context?!?!

Actually there was no belittling.

Rich doesn't want the truth exposed.

Now back to the subject for the record.

My comment:

I knew two of these were from cess pool mouth Andrew Kingoff, who joined
Rich in his campaign.

So What. Two peas in a pod.

Comment:

Richard H Jacobson takes things out of context constantly, then nukes his
posts.

See:

Why can't Richard H Jacobson Show Us The Proof?

http://tinyurl.com/7cc6l

Rich ..@..wrote:

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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:04:37 GMT, "LadyLollipop"

<LadyLolli...@insightbb.com> wrote:

No surprise here that Lollipoop does not think that context is
important.

One of Lollipoops tricks is to take comments out of context and even
falsely attribute comments to others that were not even made by them.
This is why it is pointless to discuss anything *with* Jan Drew. Talk
*at* or *about* her but never *with* her.

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"Rich" <k...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

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nah, kaalga just said _oh_my_gawd_ .

color me freaked out. richie is one strange dude. that post was hilarious,
yet scary.

and truth be told, the whole jan's parents issue *was* QUITE relevent in the
thread where i brought it up. (ie, the one where rich was pouting and
appealing for sympathy over how much of an abused victim he was at the evil
hands of jbain on some other list 6 months ago--talk about irrelevent, btw.
rich has been abusing jan with taunts about her ill/dying/dead parents for
over a year right here at mha. basically nonstop, as my collection of some
of his doozies illustrated.)

yes, i am sure readers are consistently amazed at rich's vainglorious
attempts at being a psychic hotline operator.....amazed and more than a
little bit amused......

"Rich" <k...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message

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politer in

as all can see, jbain was simply replying to richie. he hasn't attemted to
discuss this since last january. which i say is a good thing since this is
obviously a private matter between rich and jbain and/or the other
participants of that list.

it has no merit in ANY mha discussion. and rich is the one who keeps
introducing it in some sort of lame attempt to paint jbain a horrid
listserve villian.

sure, he could apologize to rich privately or apologize to rich
_on_that_list (which would be ironic, since evidently rich hasn't been able
to (*sob, sniffle*) bring himself to read that list since this most horrible
incident occurred.)

****but if ANY apologizing needs to be done around here (mha) it certainly
isn't by jbain.*****

rich, andy? apologies for any mha regulars??? no, i didn't think so.......

well, if it's as bogus as rich's concern for jan's wellbeing,  then SHAME on
you jbain!!!!!

this statement is indeed ironic coming from rich, who made all of the
following (and there are many more like this) comments to jan:

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What is sadder is that Jan has two parents with Alzheimers disease who live
with her brother who she has accused in the past of being abusive
to her father. Why is Jan not spending more time with her ailing parents and
less time posting her drivel??

Jan says that this is the "happiest time of my life". How is that possible
with two parents with Alzheimers Disease?? Something just does not add up.

But maybe her parents are better off not having Jan take care of them. Her
intolerance and lack of understanding are not good qualities for someone
taking care of someone with Alzheimers Disease. Maybe they are better off
with her brother.

Let us all pray that Jan's parents pass quietly and peacefully. Lord knows
what they must be enduring.

You don't know how much longer your parents  will be on this earth.

You waste so much time in this newsgroup when you have two parents who may
be close to death.

You say this is the "happiest time of your life" when you have two parents
in end stage Alzheimers who do not even recognize you, by your own
admission. Happiest time of your life with two parents dying a horrible
death????  And you call yourself a loving child. And you think that your
parents would be proud of you NOW??? Have you lost touch with reality??

Unfortunately they had no control over how their children would turn out and
whether they would be there in their time of need.  They may not know who
you are but God sure knows that you are not spending as much time with them
as you should.

You are just a very selfish person who thinks about her own happiness at the
expense of her parents who are dying a horrible disease.

Having loving children spend as much time as they can with them IS something
that they could really use. The choice is yours. Think about it. After they
pass you will no longer be able to spend time with them. Time is limited.
They are your parents after all.

God is watching. You cannot fool him with your rationalizations about why
you spend so much time on usenet when the time could better be spent with
your parents.

Go visit your parents.

Just like Jan is happier than she has ever been even though she has two
parents dying of Alzheimers

Please get into therapy!!!!!!!   Denying that your parents are dying is not
a healthy thing.   It is terribly hard to accept the impending loss of loved
ones, but denial is NOT the answer.    As much as it may hurt your pride to
accept Rich's words & advice, he is correct.  You are spending your time
away from them (here on usenet) AND are even denying that at their age and
in their condition that they are, in fact, dying.

Please find a good therapist (none of that TFT bullshit) and spend time with
your parents while you still can.   Usenet will be hear when you have gotten
your priorities in order.    Honor your mother & father, Jan, they won't be
here forever.

**(((oh, wait, those last two were andrew kingoff doing his usual
copy-a-troll-any-troll routine.....)))**

Remember when I told you that you should visit your parents more often
because they may not have much more time left in this world and you
told me that I had no idea what I was talking about because your parents
were NOT dying. Within weeks of my comment  your father died.
Perhaps without even seeing your parents I know more about their illness
than you do.

And your loving nature is equally evident. OTOH maybe it is better that you
DON'T visit your mother. She has enough problems as it is.

And since your mother is now staying with you it might be helpful to spend
quality time with her rather than working yourself up in this newsgroup.

You have clearly gone on record saying that you worked hard all your life
and now that you are retired you want to enjoy the good life which is why
you choose to not spend that much time with your mother. Hopefully you will
not resent your mother when her Alzheimer's Disease makes her difficult and
frustrating to care for.

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i could go on, i'm sure, but i think anyone who reads this will get the gist
of the irony about rich making accusations about 'common decency' in
usenet/email exchanges.

as for all of rich's hounding and goading and badgering and
**extremely-poor-taste** teasing, here is something that quite detracts from
rich's usual lame excuse that he is only 'trying to help' jan, and more than
puts all of his MHA mental health diagnosing in the category that it belongs
(trolling):

From: Rich kala...@hawaii.rr.com
Date: 1/15/01 6:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <n8k96t8e59a61qlhq0n70gifiut5g­­3...@4ax.com>

I personally do not think it is ethical to do any form of psychotherapy over
the phone Are you concerned about the limitations in make a diagnosis
without
seeing the person in real life???

and this:

From: Rich (kala...@hawaii.rr.com)
Subject: Re: I DON'T CARE WHO HAS BEEN BANNED!!
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 2001-01-15 15:16:04 PST

I personally do not think it is ethical to do any form of psychotherapy over
the phone unless you have previously had a face to face relationship with a
client and that person moved. I believe that it is important to have face to
face contact when evaluating someone for a mental health problem or treating
that person. Body language and a person's appearance may be an important
part of an evaluation that you would miss if you did it by telephone unless
you had video conferencing capability but even then it is a poor substitute
for actually being there IMO.

i do hope that jan now realizes that she should NOT be sharing her personal
information with people met online.

even if they *pretend* (either here--as both rich and andrew have done here
at mha--or via private email) to be concerned about her. in their case, it
was certainly a provision of ammunition for their little troll war.

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It matters not what the subject is, Richard H Jacobson sees my name and
starts foaming at the mouth.
His pattern of cyberstalking and badgering started long before me, I just
happened to be his current target, all others he has run off, boo hoo, he
has failed to do that with me. See his pattern here:
http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

http://tinyurl.com/2vxcl

http://tinyurl.com/2nbzc

http://tinyurl.com/3gzhf

Cue for Richard H Jacobson/akaRich..@.. to post with his usual cyberstalking
and attacking me.
Just watch. Just like clockwork.
Sorry to belabor the obvious.

Somethings are so predictable

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