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Cause of renal dysfunction is iron overload

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ironjustice@aol.com - 02 Sep 2005 18:39 GMT
Urine biochemical markers of early renal dysfunction are associated
with iron overload in beta-thalassaemia.
Koliakos G, Papachristou F, Koussi A, Perifanis V, Tsatra I, Souliou E,
Athanasiou M
Clin Lab Haematol. 2003 Apr ; 25(2): 105-9

Renal dysfunction in thalassemia patients can be attributed to chronic
anemia, and iron overload as well as to desferioxamine (DFO) toxicity.
We analyzed the urine of 91 well-maintained homozygous beta-thalassemia
patients, with no evidence of renal disease, for early evidence of
kidney dysfunction by means of electrophoresis and quantitative
biochemical tests. Measurement of liver magnetic resonance imaging
(MRI) T2 values and serum ferritin concentration was used to estimate
iron overload. In 55 of the 91 patients, urine analysis indicated signs
of tubular dysfunction. The urine concentration of albumin and beta
2-microglobulin, as well as the activity of
N-acetyl-beta-D-glucosaminidase (NAG), correlated positively with serum
ferritin concentration and liver iron deposition, as detected by MRI T2
values. This suggested that the cause of renal dysfunction in
homozygous beta-thalassemia is iron overload. On the other hand, the
same urine markers did not correlate with age, indicating that chronic
anemia or desferrioxamine (DFO) treatment are not related to renal
dysfunction in thalassemia.

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outsor@citynet.net - 02 Sep 2005 19:31 GMT
There is a minimal, optimal, max level of any nutritional substance, iron
included.  What good does it do to post these abstracts for a genetic
condition where a very small fraction of 1 percent of the population is
involved and who are in far excess of the max amount of iron that normal
people encounter?  
ironjustice@aol.com - 03 Sep 2005 17:19 GMT
What good does it do to post these abstracts for a genetic
condition
<<

Thalassemia is the equivalent of a .. 'mouse model of iron overload' ..
except in .. humans ..

You somehow think .. manipulating the genes in a mouse TO .. produce ..
a mouse model of iron overload .. is somehow DIFFERENT from reaching
out the door so to speak .. and GRABBING .. a .. HUMAN model of iron
overload .. who is ALREADY .. genetically predisposed ..

They are NOT .. different .. and a kidney failing due to iron overload
.. is a .. kidney .. failing .. due .. to .. iron .. overload .

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outsor@citynet.net - 03 Sep 2005 20:01 GMT
"Thalassemia" is the name in rodents for a genetic disorder in humans,
please do tell what it is so your confusion on this point will not linger.  
It affects a very very very small number of people which led to my
original question.  How does posting this give us any insight into iron in
normal amounts found in people not having the genetic disorder and in
absolutely no risk of renal failure?
Manky Badger - 03 Sep 2005 20:22 GMT
> What good does it do to post these abstracts for a genetic
> condition
> <<
>
> Thalassemia is the equivalent of a .. 'mouse model of iron overload' ..
> except in .. humans ..

It's accepted that there is a connection between thalassaemia & the
hereditary haemochromatosis, and it's no secret that the thalassaemia majors
do get iron overloads from transfusions. But to say that " Thalassemia is
the equivalent of a .. 'mouse model of iron overload' .. except in .. humans
.." ... what is THAT supposed to mean ?

> You somehow think .. manipulating the genes in a mouse TO .. produce ..
> a mouse model of iron overload .. is somehow DIFFERENT from reaching
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> They are NOT .. different .. and a kidney failing due to iron overload
> .. is a .. kidney .. failing .. due .. to .. iron .. overload .

But what is the cause of the iron overload in this specific case ?

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