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Echinacea Triggers Autoimmune Disease

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Mark Thorson - 02 Sep 2005 02:22 GMT
Arch Dermatol. 2004 Jun;140(6):723-7.
Activation of autoimmunity following use of
immunostimulatory herbal supplements.
Lee AN, Werth VP.
Section of Dermatology, University of Chicago

BACKGROUND: Evidence for the scientific basis
of purported therapeutic effects and adverse
effects of herbal supplements continues to grow.
Many herbal supplements are touted for their
immunostimulatory properties, and both in vitro
and in vivo experiments have supported this
claim. Although this explains their beneficial
effects in preventing or curtailing disease, to
our knowledge, no immunostimulatory herbal
supplements have been reported to exacerbate
disorders of immune system overactivity.

OBSERVATIONS: We describe 3 patients whose
autoimmune disease onset and/or flares correlated
with ingestion of herbal supplements with
proven immunostimulatory effects. Echinacea and
the alga Spirulina platensis are implicated in 2
patients' flares of pemphigus vulgaris, and a
supplement containing the algae Spirulina platensis
and Aphanizomenon flos-aquae was ingested by a
third patient days before both onset and a
severe flare of dermatomyositis. The third
patient showed heterozygosity for a tumor necrosis
factor alpha (TNF-alpha) promoter polymorphism
(-308A), leading to increased production of
TNF-alpha, which may have predisposed her to
developing dermatomyositis.

CONCLUSIONS: Immunostimulatory herbal supplements
may exacerbate preexisting autoimmune disease or
precipitate autoimmune disease in persons
genetically predisposed to such disorders.
Increased production of TNF-alpha may play a role,
although more research is needed to clarify the
mechanisms of such phenomena.
LadyLollipop - 02 Sep 2005 04:35 GMT
Deceiving Title, why am I not surprised?

correlated with ingestion of herbal supplements with
> proven immunostimulatory effects

Mark forgets, ye old favorite debunking words used by the *gang*

Correlation does NOT imply causation.

>Echinacea and
> the alga Spirulina platensis are implicated

A bit different than his title.

>may exacerbate *preexisting* autoimmune

MUCH different than his LYING title

>which may have

>may play a role,
> although more research is needed to clarify the
> mechanisms of such phenomena.

Mark Thorson posts *LYING* titles*

> Arch Dermatol. 2004 Jun;140(6):723-7.
> Activation of autoimmunity following use of
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> although more research is needed to clarify the
> mechanisms of such phenomena.
Rich.@. - 02 Sep 2005 04:53 GMT
>Deceiving Title, why am I not surprised?
>
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>
>Correlation does NOT imply causation.

For those who believe that Jan Drew is incapable of reasoned thinking
I present the above. She is obviously able to note the subtle
difference between a correlation and cause and effect. This belies the
many times Jan Drew appears as if she is unable to apply logical
thinking or understand nuances.

>>Echinacea and
>> the alga Spirulina platensis are implicated
>
>A bit different than his title.

Jan is quite correct. A better title would be Echinacea May Trigger
Autoimmune Disease allowing for the possibility that it does not.

>>may exacerbate *preexisting* autoimmune
>
>MUCH different than his LYING title

Again Jan Drew is able to discern the subtle difference between
triggering a disease and exacerbating a pre-existing disease. Again
this suggests that when Jan Drew appears to not understand concepts
and ideas expressed by others that she is just faking it.

>>which may have
>
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>
>Mark Thorson posts *LYING* titles*

Once again Jan Drew tries to discredit someone by accusing them of
lying. How many times has Jan Drew asserted causation when there was
only a correlation. Cue Jan to say that the thread is not about her.

Aloha,

Rich


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