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See what you started, Mark!!!!!!

Restored. Coward.

I did not lie.

Sorry, Jan, but I did not start anything. YOU initiated this thread to
bash Ramona and "conveniently" neglected to post it to the newsgroup she
was obviously reading the other thread in.

IOW, Jan, as usual, you were taking a cheap shot.

I corrected that. If you do not like it, then do not do it. Do not blame
others for your evil SATANIC ways.

Actually Mark is quite the mensch.

And yes it is sad that the CO$ so trained you to avoid Psyciatric care
as to allow you to believe all children in elementary school have ear
implants which control them.  Odd as it is, even *they* believe you to
*"need help."*

Have a good Shabbos,

Ramona

Nope. Stone, cold sober.

Please get help.

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com>

<snip>

At least Babbles is managing to stay within a number that only takes four
bytes to represent.  

ATTENTION: FOREGOING POSTING IS A FORGERY OF GARRY LYNN SCARFF FORGING
BARBARA SCHWARZ.

GARRY SCARFF IS A FORGER, THREAT MAKER, HARASSER, STALKER, DEFAMER AND
LIAR. BARBARA SCHWARZ ISN'T COMMITTING ANY CRIMES.

He asked reader to file false complaints about Barbara Schwarz to her
library in his hundreds if not thousand of forgings and he uses her
name or posting IDs to spam that library. You should contact
Earthlink.net, Scarff's ISP and demand from him to cancel the forger
Scarff's account. The CEO of Earthlink is Charles "Garry" (no joke)
Betty, and the email address is:abuse@abuse.earthlink.net.

Complain also to following other Earthlink executives, as Sky Dayton,
Brooke Hammerling, Wonhee Sull, Brent Cobb, Jay Lee, Inho Shin, Terry
Boyle, Todd Zapping, Stuart Redsun and Ali Zanjani, who should cancel
Scarff's account, as they can't be that poor to depend on the 21
Dollars a month by criminal Scarff.

Furthermore, inform their $ 440 business partner SK Telecom, the South
Korean mobile operator about what a lawless enterprise EarthLink is
allowing Scarff to use their ISP to commit his outrageous cyber crimes.
Complain to CEO Jung Nam and Deputy CEO Shin Bae Kim, and e-mail to
globalbusiness@sktelecom.com ch803@sktelecom.com, RND@sktelecom.com.
press@sktelecom.com and jsoh@sktelecom.com and tell them all about
lawless EarthLink customer Garry Scarff.

An ISP who allows the kind of crimes, terror and abuse that Scarff is
making on a daily basis should be barred from the net. Also the
postings that he makes under his own name or name of other people he
also forges, are serious violation of libel and defamation laws and
criminal laws. He and his suppporting friends might be also guilty of
violation of the Rico Act.

Search results for Garry Scarff's ISP: 207.69.138.199
EarthLink, Inc. EARTHLINK2000-D (NET-207-69-0-0-1) 207.69.0.0 -
207.69.255.255 Norman Broadbent Int, INC MINDSPRING-DEDA-8AC0
(NET-207-69-138-192-1) 207.69.138.192 - 207.69.138.207

http://cybercrimes.net/99MSCCC/MSCCC/Article6/6.01.1.html
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f056.htm
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/f1/forg-law.asp

Tell his ISP Earthlink, his newsreader, and appropriate authorities as
the LAPD and the FBI Cyber crime fighting unit that Scarff commits
felonies.

Deprogrammer (kidnapping and torture to break faith of people) Garry
Scarff assaults and stalks intelligent and well natured Barbara Schwarz
and Marty Rathbun or Mark de Rothschild on behalf of most if not all of
the anti-religious extremists. See
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/index.html
He posts currently with e-mail addresses containing "Wohega",
"Mindless" and "GarryS" BarbaraSchwarz@mad.scientist and more from
California and stole also my Analytical Publication and the Anonymous
Informer author identity. This guy has no clue what sanity is. Wonder
what he gets paid for his lies, stalkings, forgeries and assaults.

Joblesss bum, Earthlink terrorist, death treat maker and bomb threat
maker Garry Lynn Scarff from Hollywood California hates, harasses,
stalks and lies about Barbara Schwarz because she does not want him and
he never will get a chance with her. The Los Angeles police department
and the Portland police department have lots of information on Garry
Scarff. He even got his criminal hands on Barb's mail as he operates
under her name.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/8e988df87bc5dae
f?hl=en

Scarff had to admit that what he testified in 17 days in the
Fishman/Geertz case under oath were mainly lies. That is the kind of
person he is. Lying is his nature, perjury is no crime in his books.

Call the Salt Lake City jail or the Provo Mental Hospital: Barbara
Schwarz never set a foot in them. Scarff is criminally fabricating
that. She also never threatened or libeled anybody. If you read libel
and thread with her name on it, it will lead you right to Scarff's
computer in California.

I read all her postings, he never posted anything against a child, and
she never posted anything anti-semitic or otherwise race based. She
asked Dave Touretzky why he takes grants from and works with
psychiatrists despite his knowledge that psychiatrists made horrible
experiments on Jews during the Nazi time.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky00.html

If you ask me, Scarff is beyond his snapping point. One day he will
board Greyhound and harm or kill her.

http://www.webelievers.com/26838-Open-Letter-to-Episcopal-Church-Rev-Frank-Grisw
old-and-other-executives.html

Phoenix New Times 1995-11-30
Attorney Kendrick Moxon says, "Garry Scarff is a liar." He says Scarff
was
a deprogrammer who became disenchanted with Cult Awareness Network
and came to Scientology begging to be used against his former
allies.
Moxon disagrees. "Scarff's own father says he's a scumbag."
Note that Garry Scarff lied also under oath. It is called perjury. He
admitted that most what he said during a legal deposition of the
Fishman-Geertz case were lies.

Some other also forgers on ARS. Any Scientologist who dares to post on
ARS is being forged by the fanatical anti-Scientologists.
Spacetraveler made his case that Gerry Armstrong (fugitive of American
justice) forges him.

http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html
Keith Henson, also a fugitive of American justice, stalked a private
Scientologist in Hawaii, and published his photos without authorization
on the net. Soon after that forgeries appeared under the names
Sunsurfer, Faxhor, Anonymous Informer and a private citizen with name
Robert Carlton.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html

Scarff uses a defamatory article in the S.L. Tribune against Barbara
Schwarz, webbed by his idol the porn and bomb instruction man Dave
Touretzky. Read these links to see what a "credible" paper the Tribune
is.

I sent you herewith some links about the "credibility" of the Salt Lake
Tribune.

http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2003/feat_2003-05-08.cfm

http://www.slweekly.com//editorial/2004/city_2_2004-10-28.cfm

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=38041

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3077

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3036

Scarff also promotes the lie filled holysmoke website of his friend and
fellow anti-religious extremist Dave Rice who lies on Usenet that he is
an attorney, when he fact is not but works as farm hand on a little
goat farm. Dave Rice posts with perhaps hundreds of sock puppets on
Usenet. He also defames Barbara Schwarz by lying about her state of
mind. Read about him and tell me who the psycho is:

Dave Rice posted with ID Rev. Desertphile that terrorism isn't the
enemy. That is probably what Al Queda is saying too. Frederic Rice
posted that it is time for him to create a pro-suicide web site and to
create a list of people who would "benefit" from suicide.

In May, 2004, his twin brother Frederic Rice posted a drawing of the
floor plan to the not-so-secret-any-more
Rice deprogramming center located in the Mojave Desert, and his twin
David cheered that I should be not told where the "documents" are being
hidden. Note that "deprogramming" is depersonalization and a violation
of international human rights.
Here some details what kind of crimes the Rice brothers, who both stole
the name de Rothschild, plan to commit against religious people in
their hideouts: 1) Handsome porch to lure unsuspecting victims into a
false sense of comfort and security.
2) Bedroom, used to have forced sex with the deprogrammee. Video taping
equipment is in here; proceeds of the sale of the video go to fight
Scientology Inc.
3) Brainwashing Center, large TV with lecture tapes on why religion is
evil, hosted by James Randi, Karl Marx, Joseph Lennin, Charles Darwin,
and Frederic Rice. (They forgot to mention Hitler and a battery of
psychs.)
4) Long hallway to sex/video room.
5) Dark windowless closet to lock up uncooperating deprogramees (They
forgot to mention that it will be a torture chamber).
6) Guarded room, manned 24 hours a day.
7) Staff kitchen, deprogrammees are not allowed to eat.
8) Bare room with hard cement flooring. This is where deprogrammees get
only one hour sleep each day, laying in a dirt sheet. Note the tiny
window to prevent escape. (This sort of confirms that the Rice bro's
were something like concentration camp wardens in their past life)
9) Deprogrammer house. Used to hide our victims from family, friends,
and churches until our victims no longer believe in their religion.
Walls are 12 inch brick, to hide screaming of deprogrammees from
neighbors.

Dave Rice informed me: "If you must know, I drew the plans up myself
and sent it to him. (Frederic Rice). Ain't I a clever boy?!"

http://www.skeptictank.org/depro.jpg
They want to build that crime center and concentration camp in the
Mojave Desert, and I assume they will also bury the beheaded or starved
to death or raped to death victims in their backyard.
Below is copied from a PDF file of the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org,
the extemist page 10 of David Touretzy, the bomb and porn instruction
guy:
Robert Clark was arrested in 1990 for hacking into Los Alamos National
Laboratory and has posted bomb threats on the internet.
Zenon Panoussis is hosting websites containing bomb-making instructions
and was a member of the Anti-Olympic Committee which supported bombings
to sabotage the 2004 Olympics. He was arrested in 1999 for verbally
assaulting a police officer.
David Rice suggested in a posting to kill members of the FBI.
Frederic Rice has threatened governmental officials over the Internet.
He also hosts a site where he gives tips on how to kill bikers.
Andreas Heldal-Lund hosts a website with a message board that contains
death threats.
Arnie Lerma is a supporter of the Neo Nazis movement founded by Willis
Carto and is on the Board of Policy of Liberty Lobby, an anti-semitic
organization founded by Carto. He is also associated with the Utopian
Anarchist Party, that promotes the overthrowing of the U.S. government,
the killing of police officers and their website teaches how to build
bombs. Lerma is close to William White, spokesperson of UAP who was
arrested and convicted of battery and carrying a concealed weapons.
also copied from the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
DAVID RICE

David Rice has done more than talk about harming the Church of
Scientology and its parishioners. He has actively sought the means to
conduct terrorism.
GPS Readings Taken by David Rice & Keith Henson
On July 5, 2000, David Rice was at one of the Church facilities with
Keith Henson and Barbara Graham. It was on that day that Rice took the
GPS (Global Positioning System) readings of various buildings. Rice
later posted this information on the Internet along with a photo and
the coordinates of one of the buildings. He called it "target data".
In his November 2000 Affidavit, Rice gives his false version of the
story on what "happened" on that day when he, Barbara Graham and Keith
Henson were harassing the Church. Rice claims that he used the GPS
device to simulate that it was a tape recorder.
If that was his real intention, then why did he take the actual
readings? In any event, Rice's story is contradicted by a debrief
written by Barbara Graham (a.k.a. Barb Warr) who clearly states that
Rice was taking GPS coordinates and that Keith Henson had them go out
again to repeat this action after a lunch break.
With his false affidavit David Rice was apparently attempting to
protect Keith Henson who had also made threats against the Church. It
is not the first time that Rice attempted to cover up threats against
the Church while blaming the Church for having fabricated the threat.
In July 1999, Rice blamed the Church of Scientology for a bomb threat
that had been made against it several years earlier. Robert Clark,
another avid attacker of the Church, and the person who had actually
made the threat, posted to the Internet the following day that he (Rob
Clark) had been the one who made the bomb threat. Of course Clark was
dishonest enough to only admit his terrorist threat after the statute
of limitations ran out.
David Rice claims to be a computer network systems specialist who used
to live on his "own" boat, Myste, at Dana Point, California. On October
23, 2000 he posted on the Internet that he had sold the boat and was
now in Hana Bay, Maui - one of the Hawaiian islands.
In a November 2000 affidavit, which was posted on the Internet, Rice
confirmed that he has been out of the country and that he was at that
time planning to move on to French Polynesia.
His desire to remain outside United States' legal jurisdiction is
understandable.

a bed-wetting German