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marcus johannsen - 31 Aug 2005 18:05 GMT
i've been complaining about odor in my stool, and my doctor had the
stool checked and found no harmful bacteria.

but he said hospital check only for the most obvious harmful bacteria
such as salmonella, helico, ecoli, etc.
they don't check for all strains.

he suggested that i seek out a bacteriologist in alternative medicine
who can do a more comprehensive stool test and find out which strain of
bacteria may actually be the culprit.
the responsible bacteria is probably harmless in most respects.
however, it seems to cause strong stool odor.

i don't know if the odor is sulfur or hydrogen.  but, when i take pepto
bismol, it's reduced somewhat.

do you know of any bacteriologists in alternative medicine who do
extensive examinations of bacterial flora?
Dawid Michalczyk - 31 Aug 2005 18:56 GMT
> i've been complaining about odor in my stool, and my doctor had the
> stool checked and found no harmful bacteria.
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> do you know of any bacteriologists in alternative medicine who do
> extensive examinations of bacterial flora?

Stool tests are not very reliable. Read the "What really causes
allergies, Environmental Illness, MCS, Fatigue/Fibromyalgia? " article
on this page:

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David Wright - 31 Aug 2005 20:12 GMT
>> i've been complaining about odor in my stool, and my doctor had the
>> stool checked and found no harmful bacteria.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>http://www.wellatlast.com/articles.html

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Robert - 31 Aug 2005 20:44 GMT
> > i've been complaining about odor in my stool, and my doctor had the
> > stool checked and found no harmful bacteria.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> http://www.wellatlast.com/articles.html

What a bunch of baloney.
If they can sell it though I congratulate the con job.
montygram - 01 Sep 2005 01:55 GMT
You might want to consider eating plain yogurt, taking stomach acid and
pepsin supplements, drinking white tea, and avoiding oxidizing foods,
such as most oils and animal products cooked while exposed to air.
Doctors generally only think about life-threatening "diseases," not
ones that are annoying.  But such things are usually signs that you
body is starting to have problems dealing with something.  So you can
wait until you become critical, or you can act now, trying to address
the underlying cause  (which could be mineral/vitamin deficiencies or
what I mentioned above, for example).
Robert - 31 Aug 2005 19:01 GMT
> i've been complaining about odor in my stool, and my doctor had the
> stool checked and found no harmful bacteria.
>
> but he said hospital check only for the most obvious harmful bacteria
> such as salmonella, helico, ecoli, etc.
> they don't check for all strains.

They check for all harmful strains of bacteria. They don't ckeck or look for
smelly bacteria. That is not a criteria wihtout any other symptoms.

> he suggested that i seek out a bacteriologist in alternative medicine

That's funny. I thought alternative meant they don't do conventional
testing.
> who can do a more comprehensive stool test and find out which strain of
> bacteria may actually be the culprit.

Good luck. Most of the bacteria in stool is comprised of anaerobes which are
all smelly. The initial way of checking for the presence of anaerobes is to
open the incubater jar and gagging with the odor. The stool contains all the
different strains of bacteria known to man almost. Separating them out from
hundreds and isolating each one out to identity and getting relative numbers
is something I find funny.
> the responsible bacteria is probably harmless in most respects.
> however, it seems to cause strong stool odor.

The only one that is treated is an anaerobe called C. difficile and it is
associated with over use of antibiotics and can be deadly.
Good luck trying to use antibiotics to get rid of smelly bacteria.

> i don't know if the odor is sulfur or hydrogen.  but, when i take pepto
> bismol, it's reduced somewhat.
>
> do you know of any bacteriologists in alternative medicine who do
> extensive examinations of bacterial flora?
Robert - 31 Aug 2005 19:07 GMT
I would suggest you have bloating from lactose intolerance. I use lactose
reduced milk and see what happens and be careful with dairy food.
dali - 31 Aug 2005 19:11 GMT
Try mild silver protein with high doses of probiotics.
 
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