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How to Get Sick: Wear Synthetic Fabrics
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Tim Campbell - 31 Aug 2005 17:09 GMT The ideal clothing for the human body is created from natural fibers. Wool and cotton "breathe" and can manage human perspiration while preserving a balanced body temperature, whether you're in a hot or cold climate. Synthetic fibers often come from petroleum-based resins and other unnatural sources. Unfortunately, conventionally grown cotton is often contaminated with pesticides and chemical dyes, so choose your clothing carefully, and do your homework before you visit the department store.
David Wright - 31 Aug 2005 18:07 GMT >The ideal clothing for the human body is created from natural fibers. >Wool and cotton "breathe" and can manage human perspiration while [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >clothing carefully, and do your homework before you visit the >department store. But cotton of any type is a bad idea if it gets wet; it doesn't retain warmth when wet.
Whereas the evil, satanic, artificial polypropylene will "wick" moisture away from the skin.
Mindlessly insisting on "natural" is not a good way to go through life.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Mark Probert - 31 Aug 2005 23:10 GMT > The ideal clothing for the human body is created from natural fibers. > Wool and cotton "breathe" and can manage human perspiration while > preserving a balanced body temperature, whether you're in a hot or cold > climate. Synthetic fibers often come from petroleum-based resins and > other unnatural sources. Petroleum is unnantural?
> Unfortunately, conventionally grown cotton is > often contaminated with pesticides and chemical dyes, so choose your > clothing carefully, and do your homework before you visit the > department store. Rich - 01 Sep 2005 01:32 GMT >> The ideal clothing for the human body is created from natural fibers. >> Wool and cotton "breathe" and can manage human perspiration while [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Petroleum is unnantural? Last I heard, it's organic!
;o) Rich
Tim Campbell - 01 Sep 2005 06:50 GMT
> Petroleum is unnantural? not unnatural just carcinogenic.
Mark Probert - 01 Sep 2005 15:57 GMT > > >>Petroleum is unnantural? > > > not unnatural just carcinogenic. Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic?
Tim Campbell - 01 Sep 2005 16:21 GMT > Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, virtually all are petrochemical in origin.
Mark Probert - 01 Sep 2005 16:52 GMT >>Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? > > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. Synthetic fabrics are made from petrochemicals and are not carcinogenic. It seems that the method of delivery is important.
Tim Campbell - 01 Sep 2005 17:08 GMT > >>Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Synthetic fabrics are made from petrochemicals and are not carcinogenic. > It seems that the method of delivery is important. true enough...but since petro chems seem to usually be at the scene of the crime, concerning carcinogenicity, I prefer not to wear the stuff right next to my body...
Mark Probert - 01 Sep 2005 19:48 GMT >>>>Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the crime, concerning carcinogenicity, I prefer not to wear the stuff > right next to my body... However, your original post mentioned nothing about carcinogencity. What other illnesses does wearing non-natural fibers cause?
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 00:14 GMT > However, your original post mentioned nothing about carcinogencity. What > other illnesses does wearing non-natural fibers cause? Since petro chems are virtually always among the usual suspects in any lineup of suspected carcinogens simple wisdom would say that it is probably best not to wear the stuff right next to the skin.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the "evidence" keep on wearing those leisure suits...
Mark Probert - 02 Sep 2005 15:52 GMT >>However, your original post mentioned nothing about carcinogencity. What >>other illnesses does wearing non-natural fibers cause? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > For those of you who prefer to wait for the "evidence" keep on wearing > those leisure suits... Leisure suits?
Tim, you need a fashion consultant.
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 16:18 GMT > Leisure suits? > > Tim, you need a fashion consultant. Come on Mark, focus now, I was talk to you and your polyester-wearing cohorts.
Mark Probert - 02 Sep 2005 19:41 GMT > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Come on Mark, focus now, I was talk to you and your polyester-wearing > cohorts. Not me. All suits are 100% wool...shirts 100% cottton,, etct...
However, that is because I can afford them.
Tim Campbell - 03 Sep 2005 00:50 GMT > Not me. All suits are 100% wool...shirts 100% cottton,, etct... > > However, that is because I can afford them. Why don't you wear poly blend undershirts?
Mark Probert - 03 Sep 2005 16:53 GMT >>Not me. All suits are 100% wool...shirts 100% cottton,, etct... >> >>However, that is because I can afford them. > > Why don't you wear poly blend undershirts? Tim..there are single women reading this group....
I wear all cotton because it feels better and keeps me cooler in the summer.
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 16:23 GMT > > For those of you who prefer to wait for the "evidence" keep on wearing
> > those leisure suits... > > Leisure suits? > > Tim, you need a fashion consultant. Come on Mark, focus now, I was referring to you and your polyester wearing cohorts.
Happy Dog - 01 Sep 2005 17:12 GMT "Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net>
>> Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is >> carcinogenic? > > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. Cite?
moo
Tim Campbell - 01 Sep 2005 23:55 GMT > > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, > > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. > > Cite? Look into it Wesley...demonstrate that it's not the case...
Happy Dog - 02 Sep 2005 00:27 GMT "Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, >> > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. >> >> Cite? > > Look into it Wesley...demonstrate that it's not the case... See Tim, this is what makes you such an annoying prick. You make a surprising claim. "virtually all known carcinogens are petrochemical in origin" When you are asked where this information can be found, you tell readers to find it themselves. What sort of impression do you think that leaves your readers with?
moo
Mark - 02 Sep 2005 00:48 GMT > > > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, > > > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. > > > > Cite? > > Look into it Wesley...demonstrate that it's not the case... "Prove a negative proposition"? Weak, Tim, very weak.
Mark, MD
Mark - 02 Sep 2005 00:43 GMT > > Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? > > no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, > virtually all are petrochemical in origin. Asbestos?
Various radioisotopes?
Gamma rays?
I'm not arguing that some petrochemicals aren't carcinogenic, but making sweeping statements in order to support your point is opening yourself up for scorn.
Mark, MD
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 02:56 GMT > I'm not arguing that some petrochemicals aren't carcinogenic, but > making sweeping statements in order to support your point is opening > yourself up for scorn. I simply expressed a common sense opinion. Those who question my opinion are certainly free to research the matter further if they chose; how they handle their emotions in the process is their business.
Are you questioning the fundamental assertion that petro chems are disproportionately represented among substances that are known carcinogens or even those that are on the GRAS list?
Happy Dog - 02 Sep 2005 12:14 GMT >> I'm not arguing that some petrochemicals aren't carcinogenic, but >> making sweeping statements in order to support your point is opening [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > disproportionately represented among substances that are known > carcinogens or even those that are on the GRAS list? You are. You said that virtually all carcinogens are petrochemicals.
moo
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 15:22 GMT > > Are you questioning the fundamental assertion that petro chems are > > disproportionately represented among substances that are known > > carcinogens or even those that are on the GRAS list? > > You are. You said that virtually all carcinogens are petrochemicals. Come on Wesley, try to make sense here. I was asking Mark if he questions this assertion.
David Wright - 02 Sep 2005 03:59 GMT >> Clothing made from all natural, organic, petroleum products is carcinogenic? > >no...of all the substances out there that are known carcinogens, >virtually all are petrochemical in origin. Yeah, like tobacco and radon, just to cite a couple of examples.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 04:13 GMT > Yeah, like tobacco and radon, just to cite a couple of examples. certainly pet chems are not the only carcinogens...
David Wright - 02 Sep 2005 04:48 GMT >> Yeah, like tobacco and radon, just to cite a couple of examples. > >certainly pet chems are not the only carcinogens... Yes, and you simply announce that it's common sense that the majority are petrochemicals. Well, I've never noticed you to be a bastion of common sense, or even sense, so I don't plan to take your word for it, and you're not planning to back up your claim. So you can be ignored, as usual.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Tim Campbell - 02 Sep 2005 07:06 GMT > Yes, and you simply announce that it's common sense that the majority > are petrochemicals. No. I said that it was common sense that it is less than wise to wear petrochemical based clothing.
Happy Dog - 02 Sep 2005 12:17 GMT "Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net>
>> Yes, and you simply announce that it's common sense that the majority >> are petrochemicals. > > No. I said that it was common sense that it is less than wise to wear > petrochemical based clothing. No. You said that virtually all carcinogens are petrochemicals. Am I misquoting or misinterpreting you? Anyway, can you back up your claim with anything but requests for other people to do your research?
moo
David Wright - 03 Sep 2005 04:06 GMT >> Yes, and you simply announce that it's common sense that the majority >> are petrochemicals. > >No. I said that it was common sense that it is less than wise to wear >petrochemical based clothing. As Rich points out, no you didn't. But even if you had, it's not "common sense" to avoid such things. It's silly. I avoid polyester because I don't like the way it looks, but nylon makes a fine windbreaker.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
HCN - 01 Sep 2005 06:09 GMT > The ideal clothing for the human body is created from natural fibers. > Wool and cotton "breathe" and can manage human perspiration while [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > clothing carefully, and do your homework before you visit the > department store. How about rayon, also known as viscose? http://www.plastiquarian.com/viscose.htm
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