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is it safe to rinse your mouth with hydrogen peroxide everyday?

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marcus johannsen - 30 Aug 2005 21:58 GMT
rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
the mucus in my mouth.

the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.

is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 30 Aug 2005 22:05 GMT
> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> the mucus in my mouth.
>
> the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.
>
> is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?

Yes.
Mr-Natural-Health - 31 Aug 2005 15:30 GMT
> > is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?
>
> Yes.

WRONG!

No need to go to medical school.  Just learn to read the WARNINGS label
on the bottle which clearly warns against using it more than 7 days in
a row.

Just thought that physicians might try reading once and a while.

You have my condolences.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 15:55 GMT
>>>is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> You have my condolences.

Don't believe everything you see and half of what you hear.

Steve

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Rich - 31 Aug 2005 01:02 GMT
> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> the mucus in my mouth.
>
> the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.
>
> is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?

Rinsing with H2O2 before flossing is an excellent way to prevent gum
disease. I've been doing it for years with no ill effects.

--Rich
Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 02:21 GMT
>>rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
>>the mucus in my mouth.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> --Rich

    I'd emphasize the flossing, rather than the rinsing.

Steve

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Rich - 31 Aug 2005 02:37 GMT
>>>rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
>>>the mucus in my mouth.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Steve

Agreed. But when I use the peroxide first, the flossing carries the stuff
down to where the anaerobes like to hide, and I feel like the flossing is
doing more. The peroxide also loosens up the crud that I then scrape off my
tongue.

--Rich
Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 03:12 GMT
> Agreed. But when I use the peroxide first, the flossing carries the stuff
> down to where the anaerobes like to hide, and I feel like the flossing is
> doing more. The peroxide also loosens up the crud that I then scrape off my
> tongue.
>
> --Rich

    Nothing wrong with it, but there's no magic either.  You don't get
enough peroxide down where it needs to be for long enough to really
affect the bacterial flora.  The flossing will, of course.  The peroxide
may have some mild detergency to it.

Steve

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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 31 Aug 2005 05:09 GMT
> >>>rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> >>>the mucus in my mouth.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> down to where the anaerobes like to hide, and I feel like the flossing is
> doing more.

COMMENT:

Funny. I have the impression that flossing gets the crud out so the
peroxide can get to the pockets where the bugs like to hide, so IT'S
doing more.

Of course, no doubt that flossing is the best of all things you can do,
and nothing replaces it.

Peroxide may not affect most normal mouth flora, but the smelly
anaerobes just HATE it. For obvious reasons.

SBH
montygram - 31 Aug 2005 06:25 GMT
Plain yogurt before you go to bed, then rinse with filtered water.  I
pick the stuff out of my teeth as well.  Using oxidizing agents can
lead to oral cancers.  It is a really stupid thing to do.  Oral
surgeons are warning of an "oral cancer epidemic" in a few years due to
all the bleaching that's going on.  Unfortunately, many doctors and
scientists just don't understand how dangerous the oxidative stress
that is generated can be.
montygram - 31 Aug 2005 06:59 GMT
Instead of worrying about what textbooks say, I read scientific papers
such as the following (I posted this one due to the interest in
hydrogen peroxide).  Most people don't realize how many such papers are
completely ignored by the mainstream media, for whatever reason.

Arch Biochem Biophys. 1997 Mar 15;339(2):267-74.

Prolonged oxidative stress on actin.

Milzani A, DalleDonne I, Colombo R.

Laboratory of Biochemistry and Biophysics of Cytoskeletal Structures,
University of Milan, Via Celoria 26, Milan, 20133, Italy.

Hydrogen peroxide, coming from polymorphonuclear leukocytes, causes
severe oxidative injury on actin molecules with the disarrangement of
cortical actin cytoskeleton followed by plasmalemma blebbing. In this
paper we demonstrate that actin oxidation does not simply develop into
denaturation, but oxidative injuries on actin are specific and related
to the chemical characteristics of the oxidant. Experiments on purified
actin in solution have shown that actin behavior to oxidation depends
on (i) the amino acidic targets of the oxidant and (ii) on the
structural plasticity of the actin molecule, which differently responds
to different chemical modifications. Therefore, hydrogen peroxide (that
presents a broad oxidative activity) affects actin dynamics by markedly
inhibiting the assembly of actin monomers, by forcing the disassembly
of actin polymers, and, moreover, by affecting the interaction between
oxidant-stressed actin and DNase I. Diamide (a specific thiol oxidant),
in contrast, mainly lowers the actin polymerization extent, while it
slightly influences the polymerization rate and results uneffective on
both F-actin disassembly and actin-related DNase I inhibition. Actin
response to oxidative stresses likely depends on the "structural
connectivity in actin," the property allowing it to finely modulate the
actin filament architecture. The potential cellular relevance of the
alterations in the interaction between oxidized actin and DNase I has
been briefly discussed.
Barry - 31 Aug 2005 08:40 GMT
> Arch Biochem Biophys. 1997 Mar 15;339(2):267-74.
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> alterations in the interaction between oxidized actin and DNase I has
> been briefly discussed.

Is that good or bad?
MMu - 31 Aug 2005 09:16 GMT
> Instead of worrying about what textbooks say, I read scientific papers
> such as the following (I posted this one due to the interest in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Laboratory of Biochemistry and Biophysics of Cytoskeletal Structures,
> University of Milan, Via Celoria 26, Milan, 20133, Italy.

This study is completely irrelevant to the topic.

1)
the actin in this study was prepared out / isolated.
I don't have isolated actin in my mouth (except for that in the meat I
chew), only cells with actin.

2)
its a pure in-vitro experiment with actin (not cells with actin) but without
any antioxidant system.
every cell has an antioxidant system do deal with hydroperoxide quite
efficiently.

3)
incubation time with H2O2 was 24 hours in this study.
how long do you use your "filtered water" when washing your teeth?

.. seems like you just randomly picked the first abstract with H2O2 and some
negative effect without reading it.
MMu - 31 Aug 2005 11:09 GMT
Correction:
"hydrogenperoxide", not "hydroperoxide"...
montygram - 31 Aug 2005 21:15 GMT
This is a molecular level model of what occurs when you use such
products.  It explains why oral surgeons are warning about cancer risks
for people who bleach their teeth white.  It is consistent with basic
science.  If you want to volunteer your mputh to be bombarded with H2O2
daily, I'd be curious to see what results.  If you know of a more on
point paper, then cite it.  Evidence is hardly ever perfect, but I
don't see any reason why one should expect something different to occur
in one's mouth.  If you have a reason to think otherwise, explain it.
Actin is actin, H2O2 is H2O2.  What antioxidant system will be at work
in your mouth when you bombard it with H2O2 all the time?  Your desire
to attack is irresponsible, possibly leading people to do horrible
damage to themselves.  But I guess if people aren't intelligent enough
to understand the difference between evidence that is basic and
troubling and evidence that is trumped up, they will just have to live
(or not) with the consequences.

The media ususally covers the epidemiological garbage instead of good
evidence such as the study I presented.  For example:

* 02:00 30 August 2005
* NewScientist.com news service
* Kurt Kleiner

Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new
analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with
experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50%
chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are
true.

John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School
of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design,
researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to
make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed
studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public
have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some
will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more
important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are
false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to
getting research findings right combine to make most published research
wrong.
Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the
odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a
complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift
through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular
disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If
you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true,
on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find
small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of
patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly
defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the
fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if
a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others
to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical
School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the
limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a
textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with
the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to
think about," he says.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 21:43 GMT
> This is a molecular level model of what occurs when you use such
> products.  It explains why oral surgeons are warning about cancer risks
> for people who bleach their teeth white.

    I'm sure there are one or two oral surgeons waving the flag, but none I
know.
    The risks for primary oral cancer are very well known--tobacco and
alcohol.  I have never seen a PRIMARY oral squamous cell carcinoma in
patients who are not heavy tobacco users.  The overwhelming majority are
heavy drinkers as well.  (I have seen primary cancers of the salivary
glands, and occasionally--ONLY occasionally I've seen reports of these
in non-smokers/non drinkers).
    BTW, I've had plenty of patients who in fact rinse their mouths with
peroxide daily.  As I said, I don't advocate this.  But I haven't seen
any cancers--in fact no dysplastic lesions--in any of them.

YMMV,
Steve

  It is consistent with basic
> science.  If you want to volunteer your mputh to be bombarded with H2O2
> daily, I'd be curious to see what results.  If you know of a more on
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
> the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to
> think about," he says.

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MMu - 01 Sep 2005 10:28 GMT
> This is a molecular level model of what occurs when you use such
> products.  It explains why oral surgeons are warning about cancer risks
> for people who bleach their teeth white.

No; your article doesn't even mention oral cancer.

>It is consistent with basic
> science.  If you want to volunteer your mputh to be bombarded with H2O2
> daily, I'd be curious to see what results.

Many people do that already.

> If you know of a more on point paper, then cite it.

I am not supporting the same viewpoint.

Even though I do think that oral H2O2 treatment
1) isn't necessary and
2) isn't actually very beneficial in most of the cases (for healthy people),

I do not believe that it has much of a negative effect because of the very
short time of exposure and the low concentration.

> Evidence is hardly ever perfect, but I
> don't see any reason why one should expect something different to occur
> in one's mouth.  If you have a reason to think otherwise, explain it.
> Actin is actin, H2O2 is H2O2.

you are applying a in vitro result obtained with isolated actin to an in
vivo environment without even considering that there is a difference? just
adding peroxidase to that in-vitro system of H2O2 and actin will change the
result already.

a cell is a lot more complex than just 2 chemicals in a glass tube.

>What antioxidant system will be at work
> in your mouth when you bombard it with H2O2 all the time?

Glutathione-Peroxidase (GSH-Px) for instance?

> Your desire
> to attack is irresponsible, possibly leading people to do horrible
> damage to themselves.  But I guess if people aren't intelligent enough
> to understand the difference between evidence that is basic and
> troubling and evidence that is trumped up, they will just have to live
> (or not) with the consequences.

polemics.
you are trying to proove a point with a study that does not support it.
I believe in evidence based science.. do you?

> The media ususally covers the epidemiological garbage instead of good
> evidence such as the study I presented.  For example:

I don't disagree to that- I prefer experimental studies as well, but this
does not change the fact that you have to still consider the rest of the
cell when thinking of an experiment. Simple experiments are nice, but you
never actually know what happens down the line if you don't do in vivo
studies.

> * 02:00 30 August 2005
> * NewScientist.com news service
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to
> think about," he says.
Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 14:16 GMT
> Instead of worrying about what textbooks say, I read scientific papers
> such as the following (I posted this one due to the interest in
> hydrogen peroxide).  Most people don't realize how many such papers are
> completely ignored by the mainstream media, for whatever reason.

    Seems silly to obscess on one in vitro study when there is long in vivo
experience in clinical use.

Steve

> Arch Biochem Biophys. 1997 Mar 15;339(2):267-74.
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> alterations in the interaction between oxidized actin and DNase I has
> been briefly discussed.

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Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 14:14 GMT
> Plain yogurt before you go to bed, then rinse with filtered water.  I
> pick the stuff out of my teeth as well.  Using oxidizing agents can
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> scientists just don't understand how dangerous the oxidative stress
> that is generated can be.

    I'm unaware of any documented serious cancer risks from peroxide
exposure as done in bleaching.
    20 years ago there were some anecdotal reports of a risk, and based on
that I held off bleaching literally for years; but as continued use of
bleaches showed no evidence of this, I think it's pretty safe to
conclude that the cancer risk is insignificant.

Steve

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Mr-Natural-Health - 31 Aug 2005 04:05 GMT
> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> the mucus in my mouth.
>
> the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.
>
> is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?

No!

Why would you want to control the mucus in your mouth?

Chronic use of half peroxide/half water will alter the natural
bacterial balance in your mouth.
Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 14:11 GMT
>>rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
>>the mucus in my mouth.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Chronic use of half peroxide/half water will alter the natural
> bacterial balance in your mouth.

    Nah, not hardly.  It will give your tongue a funny whitish appearance
though.

Steve

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bae@cs.toronto.no-uce.edu - 31 Aug 2005 14:34 GMT
Dr. Bornfeld: Is it better to rinse with H2O2 after flossing than
before? I'd think there'd be better contact of disinfectant with
bacteria afterwards.  Is it a good idea to use diluted H2O2 as a
mouthwash if your gums are in good shape already?  I use it only
occasionally, and my dental hygienist approves my mouth since I
started flossing more regularly (using the handy tip below).

Handy dental health tip:  keep a packet of dental floss beside your
computer and floss while reading net news.

Smartass remark:  Too bad there isn't mental floss.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 15:06 GMT
> Dr. Bornfeld: Is it better to rinse with H2O2 after flossing than
> before? I'd think there'd be better contact of disinfectant with
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Smartass remark:  Too bad there isn't mental floss.

    While I don't think there is much risk ordinarily, I don't advocate
routine rinsing with peroxide.  It does sometimes change the color of
oral mucosae.  It's also not a very good antiseptic.
    As a general rule, oral antiseptic rinses should not be necessary, esp.
if your gingival health is good.
    Some patients in periodontal therapy are given chlorhexidene gluconate
rinses perioperatively, which will keep down bacterial growth and speed
healing.  Some dentists will give patients these rinses when extensive
restorative dentistry is done as well, for the same reason.  However,
even the manufacturers are circumspect about using these rinses
long-term.  The primary problems are change in taste sensation and also
(perhaps paradoxically) increased staining of the teeth.
    I don't floss at the computer; I don't like Windexing my flat panel screen.

Steve

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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 31 Aug 2005 21:05 GMT
>     Nah, not hardly.  It will give your tongue a funny whitish appearance
> though.

COMMENT:
For about 5 minutes. But that's not discoloration of tissue, it's just
a zillion little oxygen bubbles, which are white. Once the reaction
ceases, the tissue goes back to normal color.

As somebody has pointed out, every cell in your body has catalase for
dealing with hydrogen peroxide. Catalase, in fact, is the fastest
enzyme yet to be found.

Food Chem Toxicol. 2000 Nov;38(11):1021-41.

Assessment of the carcinogenicity associated with oral exposures to
hydrogen peroxide.

DeSesso JM, Lavin AL, Hsia SM, Mavis RD.

Mitretek Systems, McLean, Virginia, USA. jdesesso@mitretek.org

Concern regarding hydrogen peroxide (H(2)O(2)) carcinogenicity arises
from its ability to act as a strong oxidizing agent. In short-term
genotoxicity tests, H(2)O(2) has given predominantly positive results;
however, these assays have been performed using either bacterial
strains engineered to be exquisitely sensitive to oxidant damage, or
mammalian cells deficient in antioxidant enzymes. Significantly, the
addition of antioxidant protective measures
(normally present in vivo) to these assay systems protects against
H(2)O(2) genotoxicity. In most whole animal studies, H(2)O(2) exposure
neither initiates nor promotes tumors. In mice, however, 0.4% H(2)O(2)
in drinking water was reported to induce hyperplastic lesions of the
duodenum and to erode areas in the glandular stomach epithelium. Owing
to the chemistry of dilute H(2)O(2) solutions and the
anatomy/physiology of the gastrointestinal tract, it is
unlikely that orally ingested H(2)O(2) reaches the duodenum. Instead,
greatly decreased water consumption and the resultant abrasion of the
luminal lining on ingestion of pelleted dry rodent chow is the most
likely cause of the observed gastric and duodenal lesions following
H(2)O(2) administration in drinking water. Significantly, when hamsters
received high doses of H(2)O(2) by gastric intubation (and water intake
was not affected), the gastric and duodenal epithelia appeared normal.
In-depth analysis of the available data supports the conclusion that
oral ingestion of H(2)O(2) should not be considered a carcinogenic
threat.

Publication Types:
   Review
   Review, Tutorial

PMID: 11038240 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 21:37 GMT
>>    Nah, not hardly.  It will give your tongue a funny whitish appearance
>>though.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> a zillion little oxygen bubbles, which are white. Once the reaction
> ceases, the tissue goes back to normal color.

    We've occasionally seen hyperplasia of the filliform papillae.  In any
case, only a very minor cosmetic concern.

Steve

> As somebody has pointed out, every cell in your body has catalase for
> dealing with hydrogen peroxide. Catalase, in fact, is the fastest
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> PMID: 11038240 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Barry - 31 Aug 2005 05:02 GMT
I also read some stuff about peroxide helping cancer grow. I'd obey the
label.

The only mouthwash I use is Biotene, but you'd probably need one with
alcohol, which might also cause cancer, but at least there's no warning
about it on the bottles.

Anyway, mucus doesn't come from your mouth. It might end up there, but
I think you should try to stop excess mucus at the source.
Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 14:12 GMT
> I also read some stuff about peroxide helping cancer grow. I'd obey the
> label.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Anyway, mucus doesn't come from your mouth. It might end up there, but
> I think you should try to stop excess mucus at the source.

    There are plenty of mucous glands in the mouth, esp. the roof of the
mouth and lining the lips.

Steve
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Barry - 31 Aug 2005 14:27 GMT
>     There are plenty of mucous glands in the mouth, esp. the roof of the
> mouth and lining the lips.

Well, at least there's no saliva up my nose. I'd still work on reducing
the mucus, not just removing it when it's there.
Jim - 31 Aug 2005 14:59 GMT
I have read some sources that say you shouldn't use peroxide if you have
metal fillings, due to the reaction that occurs.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 15:57 GMT
> I have read some sources that say you shouldn't use peroxide if you have
> metal fillings, due to the reaction that occurs.

    What reaction is that?
    Other than potential oxidation of any zinc in the alloy, I can't think
of any activity.  Probably most amalgam alloys at this point are zinc-free.

Steve

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MMu - 01 Sep 2005 15:10 GMT
>> I have read some sources that say you shouldn't use peroxide if you have
>> metal fillings, due to the reaction that occurs.
>
> What reaction is that?
> Other than potential oxidation of any zinc in the alloy, I can't think of
> any activity.  Probably most amalgam alloys at this point are zinc-free.

just guessing, but maybe because an electron transport could be possible if
the metal in question has a redox potential (which could form a
hydroxyl-radical or superoxide out of H2O2).
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 31 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT
>>    There are plenty of mucous glands in the mouth, esp. the roof of the
>>mouth and lining the lips.
>
> Well, at least there's no saliva up my nose. I'd still work on reducing
> the mucus, not just removing it when it's there.

    Seriously, oral mucus is rarely a problem.  The only time I think most
people would be aware of it is when there's a deficiency of serous
saliva, mostly from the parotid glands.  The submandibular glands (under
the tongue) have some serous secretion, but are mostly mucous.
    Someone mentioned Biotene, which is probably the best generally
available rinse for dry mouth.

Steve

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Barry - 01 Sep 2005 01:23 GMT
>     Someone mentioned Biotene, which is probably the best generally
> available rinse for dry mouth.

That was me. Plax mouthwash, with only 8.8% alcohol, burned my tongue
the last time I tried it, so sometimes I use Biotene (alcohol free) in
the morning before breakfast, even though I don't have dry mouth. On
the other hand, I eat a little more meat these days, which might be
protecting my tongue because mint toothpaste, except for baking soda
toothpaste, used to burn my tongue too, but the burning is very minor
now. But there's no way I'll go back to Listerine, which I originally
tried.
Into the living sea of waking dreams - 31 Aug 2005 15:33 GMT
> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> the mucus in my mouth.
>
> the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.
>
> is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?

I had a serious infection of cold sores inside my mouth.  Tried
everything available, this in the early 1980's, to no avail.

This is when the bleaching started being advertised by dentists, so I
thought, why not rinse with hydrogen peroxide, and see if my teeth get
whiter.

The cold sores disappeared.

I have been rinsing with 3 % h202 everyday since then  cold sores are
very rare now.

Just my anectodotal experience.

But, I notice that hydrogen peroxide states that it can be used for oral
debridement now.

j.

So, based upon my 20 plus years, with fillings BTW, I can state that I
have had only beneficial results.

j.
Susan - 31 Aug 2005 15:57 GMT
>> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
>> the mucus in my mouth.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> j.

I've used a small amount in my sinus irrigator with saline solution to
cure and control chronic sinusitis where antibiotics have been failing.

Susan
Mr-Natural-Health - 31 Aug 2005 16:50 GMT
> > is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?
>
> The cold sores disappeared.
>
> I have been rinsing with 3 % h202 everyday since then  cold sores are
> very rare now.

H2O2 gets rid of mucous, cold sores, and keeps flossed teeth from
getting infected, but is clearly not strong enough to affect the
natural balance of bacteria in your mouth.

Yeah, ... right, sure ... tell me another tall tale.

Just my brain talking.  You should try using yours once in a while.
Into the living sea of waking dreams - 31 Aug 2005 20:37 GMT
>>>is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?
>>
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>  
> Just my brain talking.  You should try using yours once in a while.

brain-fart?

j.

oh, btw, eat sh.t and die.
C.Health - 03 Sep 2005 06:24 GMT
> rinsing with this solution(half peroxide/half water) controls some of
> the mucus in my mouth.
>
> the bottle says do not exceed use for 7 days.
>
> is it safe to use this solution for rinsing everyday?

There is a difference between 3% Hydrogen Peroxide (Drug/Grocery Store
Variety)
and 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (Also 50% Food Grade H2O2)
It is safer to use the food grade in your mouth and less expensive to use
the 3% on your skin for a wound.
 
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