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Adverse Effects OF Drugs, 100,000 - 4th-6th-leading cause of death

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LadyLollipop - 29 Aug 2005 01:35 GMT
IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS

http://tinyurl.com/dbez2

Mark Probert would rather talk about *5* people

Which he calls:

a lot of CHEATlationists in Georgia

Even though it clearly states:

All patients were discharged without permanent sequelae. It is unclear if
effects were related to dose or rate of administration.

Nuff said.
Rich.@. - 29 Aug 2005 02:26 GMT
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>Mark Probert would rather talk about *5* people

Jan Drew would rather talk about the rare vaccination adverse effects
than the MILLIONS of children who die EVERY YEAR from vaccine
preventable diseases not to mention the millions more who suffer from
these diseases without dying. But Jan Drew does not care about the
MILLIONS of children. If a single child has an adverse reaction to a
vaccine Jan Drew is quick to tell everyone about it. Wonder why she
does not say a peep about the MILLIONS of children who die EVERY YEAR
due to NOT being vaccinated?? Could it be that Jan Drew does not give
a rat's a.s about the millions of children who die each year because
most of them are minorities.

Sad that. May God have mercy on Jan's soul.

Aloha,

Rich

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dali - 29 Aug 2005 03:08 GMT
>IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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>Nuff said.

always nice to put things in perspective.
Mark Probert - 29 Aug 2005 15:37 GMT
>>IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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> always nice to put things in perspective.

Yes, Jan talks about those incredibly rare adverse vaccine reactions to
show that vaccines are more dangerous than a China Syndrome Meltdown.

Do not fall for the hypocrite.
LadyLollipop - 29 Aug 2005 22:04 GMT
>>>IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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> Yes, Jan talks about those incredibly rare adverse vaccine reactions to
> show that vaccines are more dangerous than a China Syndrome Meltdown.

Adverse Effects OF Drugs, 100,000 - 4th-6th-leading cause of death

IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS

http://tinyurl.com/dbez2

NOT one single word about adverse vaccine reactions.

Mark Probert just can't STOP LYING!

> Do not fall for the hypocrite.
Mark Probert - 29 Aug 2005 22:21 GMT
>>>>IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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> Mark Probert just can't STOP LYING!

You mention advserse vaccine reactions in many of your posts. Do you
deny that?

>>Do not fall for the hypocrite.

Good advise when speaking about Jan Drew.
LadyLollipop - 29 Aug 2005 22:10 GMT
Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:93FQe.2213$OT1.1677@fe09.lga...> LadyLollipop wrote:
>> IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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> Yes, fortunately these folks got good medical care.

AND,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

They  are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

D E A D!!!!!!!
Rich - 29 Aug 2005 22:17 GMT
> Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:93FQe.2213$OT1.1677@fe09.lga...> LadyLollipop wrote:
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> D E A D!!!!!!!

Although being discharged to the morgue might incur no sequelae, the
implication was that these patients were discharged alive to their homes.
Where did you get the information that they are dead?
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Mark Probert - 29 Aug 2005 22:21 GMT
> Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:93FQe.2213$OT1.1677@fe09.lga...> LadyLollipop wrote:
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> D E A D!!!!!!!

No, they are alive, thanks to RealMedicine. I wonder how many of them
returned to get more CHEATlation?
dali - 29 Aug 2005 22:39 GMT
Adverse drug reactions is a more important prob-
lem in drug treatment and drug development than pre-
viously thought. A meta-analysis revealed that serious
adverse drug reactions occur among 6.7% of all hos-
pitalised patients and that 0.32% of all hospitalised
patients develop fatal adverse reactions, causing more
than 100 000 deaths annually in the US.

did I read it right?
David Wright - 30 Aug 2005 06:09 GMT
>Adverse drug reactions is a more important prob-
>lem in drug treatment and drug development than pre-
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>
>did I read it right?

How should we know?  We don't know what you were reading.  What you
were probably reading was based on a very bad paper by Starfield in
JAMA a few years ago, in which the odds of a fatal adverse reaction
(or the number of such annually) were overestimated by a factor of six
or seven.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
                                -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Mark Probert - 30 Aug 2005 15:45 GMT
> Adverse drug reactions is a more important prob-
> lem in drug treatment and drug development than pre-
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
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> did I read it right?

Well, considering your demonstrated poor reading comprehension skills,
coupled with your selective out of context and unattributed snipping, it
is hard to tell what you are reading.
Mark Probert - 29 Aug 2005 15:36 GMT
> IN HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS
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> a lot of CHEATlationists in Georgia

Yes, there are a lot of them in Georgia. However, the point, which you
ignore, is that this is NOT A BENIGN TREATMENT. It is dangerous, and
should only be used when absolutely necessary, and not for something
that is unproven.

> Even though it clearly states:
>
> All patients were discharged without permanent sequelae. It is unclear if
> effects were related to dose or rate of administration.
>
> Nuff said.

Yes, fortunately these folks got good medical care.
 
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