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Plum Island, Zuckerman, the ALDF, Yale and the Mossad

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Chuck - 05 Aug 2005 10:47 GMT
Responses to the survey.

What we heard, and in combination with what Ed McSweegan
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/eveningnews/main560528.shtml
posted to the Lyme newsgroup recently, has led us to the answers
we were looking for as regards Plum Island and Gulf War
Illness, in addition to Lyme.  [GWI is from a combination of toxins;
from exploding weapons underground (which I saw myself on
CNN), and antidotes to nerve agents administered prophylactically,
as well as mycoplasma exposure.]

Mortimer Zuckerman was at the ALDF GALA in NYC at the Pierre
Hotel.   He got back into his limo when he sawa out protest and
drove away.  Zuckerman was in line for an ambassadorship to Israel.

Would anyone like to know why we did not finish off Saddam in 1991?

Because of the bioweapons we sold Iraq from Plum Island.

Mycoplasmas, at least.

UNSCOM was looking for "tick nursery equipment" in Iraq in
the 1990s.  This we read online, posted to one of the e-groups
which was on the web on a formal (and not any kind of a "conspiracy")
web page.

How would Yale, the ALDF, and Zuckerman, et al know about
these things, and what benefit would Israel gain in knowing what
bioweapons Iraq has?

Israel feels they are *entitled* to know.

No doubt Israel has them, too.

OspA is a lipoprotein of mycoplasmal origin.   Numerous
animal diseases, including lameness (Lyme), pneumonia, and the
inability to produce milk, are caused by mycoplasmas and are "studied"
on Plum Island.

So, the focus is on Yale and the ALDF.  They obviously know all about
what we sold/gave to whom, since Yale is also involved in Plum Island
"research."

Lyme was a Plum Island accidental release and LymeRIX
was either placebo vaccine, or an attempt to create antibodies
to mycoplasmal lipoproteins as well...

The reason the "bad guys" don't want us to have antibiotics is because
they think/suppose antibiotics will kill off other infections, which
allows
the mycoplasmal infections to expand.

But mycoplasmal infections suppress the immune system.
Just like LymeRIX does.
LymeRIX failed in the same way other mycoplasmal lipoproteins 1) failed
as
vaccines and 2) produced delayed-typed hypersensitivity responses.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=2435824&query_hl=25


Mycoplasmas also infect the brain causing a spongiform encephalopathy.

Ed McSweegan said "Don't mess with Yale and the federal government."

That was our biggest clue, as usual.

If anyone wants to confirm any of this, 1) it is factual that they
study mycoplasma
on Plum Island because one of the Lyme activists confronted the former
Plum
Island Director on this.  At first the Director denied it, but then
when shown the
evidence, she admitted that they did.  Now it is too obvious for words.

2) Study Tully JG.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&term=%22Tully
+JG%22%5BAuthor%5D

mycoplasmal and spiroplasmal infections are also carried in ticks.

Remember Klempner talking about leprosy (a mycoplasmal infection) ?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=14670349&query_hl=29

"Molecular mechanisms of MHC linked susceptibility in leprosy: towards
the development of synthetic vaccines."
"....76% of the individuals were able to eliminate the bacilli
(p=0.03). DRB1*1501 DQA1*0102-DQB1*0602 (DQ1 subtype) was significantly
increased in the patients, indicating its participation in
susceptibility."

There are (found in leprosy) the same HLA types of immune incompetence
found in
people who have chronic neurologic Lyme- which presents as Multiple
Sclerosis, and the reason for this immune incompetence is what I told
everyone 2 years ago:  conformational differences of the antigen
presenting
molecule and antigen- binding dynamics.

DRB1*1501  and DQB1*0602

Klempner found the latter in significant portion of the "seronegative"
Lyme patients.
NINDS Roland Martin found the former in the MS-presenting borreliosis
patients.
Then we recruited Martin from Germany.  Just like we recruited Willy
Burgdorfer from
Switzerland.  We recruited the best scientists in their fields.

Remember Phil Baker banned us from the September 2001 NIH conference on
Lyme?

Here is that report, 3 years later, but I don't know if they revealed
that haplotype
finding yet:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=15631071&query_hl=36


We're as sick as we *say* we are.  *We're* just not allowed to know
about it, whereas Zuckerman is ???  And all of his biotech- investing
buddies associated with Yale and the ALDF ???  We're not allowed to
know
WHY we shouldn't have antibtiotics?

Because the real reason is that we have mycoplasmal infections from
ticks
which we are not supposed to know about, because if the origin is
traced
we could find markers of Plum Island handiwork?    And is Zuckerman
and Kaiser, etc, entitled to this Yale/Plum Island insider information
and
not us?

Either a person has a hypersensitivity response to lipoproteins, or an
inadequate
immune response, accounting for the 2 types of Lyme Steere discussed in
1991:
Lyme arthritis (seropositive Lyme - due to the hyper-immune response),
or Multiple Sclerosis (seronegative Lyme - due to inadequate immune
response).

Thanks again for participating, but most of all, Thank Ed McSweegan
for harassing us, since that was incredibly stupid of him.  OF COURSE
we're going to try to find out why we've been dealt this obvious
bullshit
on Lyme.

If they were smart, they would have let us be treated for Lyme.

Instead, we learned about Plum Island and the *real* reason we did
not invade Iraq all the way to Bagdad in 1991, ... until the UN cleaned
up
our mess.

And now we know Zuckerman knows too much.  He would have
learned it from Yale and the ALDF.

Is Zuckerman with the Mossad?  Is Kristol?  Is Wolfowitz?

Some say the Mossad killed President Jack Kennedy, because
Kennedy did not want Israel to become a nuclear power.

How about we make the Arab terrorists a peace offering and give
them Zuckerman and Wolfowitz? And how about we also throw in Ed
McSweegan as a bonus??

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=9530694&query_hl=47

"Tick-borne diseases of sheep and goats and their related vectors in
Iran."
Hashemi-Fesharki R.
Department of Protozoology, Razi State Vaccine and Serum Research
Institute, Tehran, Iran.

and, 1983, Yale:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=6382832&query_hl=47

Yale J Biol Med. 1983 Sep-Dec;56(5-6):799-813.     Related Articles, Links

   "The Emmy Klieneberger-Nobel Award lecture. Reflections on recovery
of some fastidious mollicutes with implications of the changing host
patterns of these organisms."

Don't forget, rarely is any research published by Plum Island.

Your's,
AN AMERICAN PATRIOT.

======

Kathleen,
exactly, or approximately, WHAT do you think the
Mad Scientists at Plum DID to that ancient organism?
HOW did they tweak it?
Give it more bite?
More neurotoxin-producing capability?
More potent neurotoxin?
Make it antibiotic-resistant?
Make it antibiotic-proof?
Boost its reproductive ability?
etc.
WHAT?!
Inquiring Spirochete-Saturated Minds Want To Know.

Chuck (The Good Chuck, not the EVIL Chuck)

"Cytyzens Unyted Agaynst Lyme Cryme"

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Cc: jgerberding@cdc.gov, pmead@cdc.gov, lou@cnn.com,
thomas.carson@usdoj.gov
Subject: Lyme scam survey

This is a serious survey, even though it doesn't sound like it.
Please respond.
Thanks,
Kathleen

========================

Do you think borreliosis was a "delberate release?"

Do you think Lyme was a Plum Island accident?

What do you think is the reason the CDC is protecting
and promoting this Lyme disease fraud, and have promoted
Mark Klempner and Alan Barbour, by giving them bioweapons
labs to manage?

Why hasn't McSweegan been arrested for revealing
government secrets regarding what are bioweapons
and nerve agents?

Do you think it is treason for Yale and the Lyme
criminals to be giving away government secrets
as regards borreliosis to foreign nations like
the British firm SmithKline, and discussing data
with German scientists, like Steere did when he
set up the EUCALB to be the European counterpart
of the false "front" non-profit the ALDF.com?

Do you think it is treason for US companies to
be spinning diseases for profit?  Like Kaiser, the
Yale Corporation, (and New York Medical College)
and CastleConnolly.com?

Especially if the profit ends up in shell companies
in the US east coast islands like Bermuda and
the Virgin Islands or invested in, oh, say
Equatorial Guinea who have just discovered
wealth in natural resources?

Do you think it made sense to invest in the
development of a vaccine for Lyme, when they
knew all along there could be no vaccine for
a relapsing borreliosis-- which is also the
reason why there is not real test for borreliosis
other than antibodies for genus specific flagellin?

If Edward McSweegan lived in Old Lyme CT, next
door to a Blue Cross executive, what could he
have advised Blue Cross about Lyme?  Which, one
would think, would be the primary topic of
neighborly conversation.

Why would Ed McSweegan have even moved to Old Lyme,
unless he wanted to do survellance for more Plum Island
accidents?

Who helped Ed get the house in Old Lyme, Blue Cross
or the NIH?  Since houses in Old Lyme are extremely
expensive, as they are in Crawford, MD, where his
other house is??

What are the benefits of this insider information
as regards vector borne diseases, bioweapons and
antibiotic efficacies?

If Ed McSweegan advised both Blue Cross and SmithKline
Beecham, and he gave them the wrong information,
which they appreciated Thanks (B31 expresses no
OspC, which is the neurotropism antigen, and then
SmithKline used strain B31 for the Lyme trials.
rendering the three primary immunodominant antigens,
OspA B and C, completely out of the standard for
testing for Lyme), can we find out how he was
rewarded ????

If Lyme as a permanent nervous system infection,
is a government secret, why do they persist,
and thus render their opinions on anything related to
health matters, "do-do"  ?

If you were a CDC employee, and knew the scam of
Lyme was found out, what would you be thinking right
now?

"How can we cover up some more?"
"Create some diversionary hysteria?"
"Find a way to promote the heroism of the CDC?"
"Become ever more secretive?"

Or all of the above?

Thanks,

Let me know your thoughts, because I sure don't
understand this silliness.  Imagine if we were
taught to defraud the public like this at Pfizer.

To the best of my knowledge, Pfizer doesn't do
that.  We even thought Trovan was a drug.  I heard
that the FDA figured they had given us Viagra, and they
thought two blockbusters so close together was
being too generous.  (This is what I was told.)

Kathleen
Chuck D Adams - 06 Aug 2005 20:35 GMT
> Responses to the survey.
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> which was on the web on a formal (and not any kind of a "conspiracy")
> web page.

Yeah Chuck,
I figured that the Plum Island Fiends sold some of their "handiwork",
and HAVE always wondered why Saddam wasn't finished off
during Gulf War I.
So,
if I understand you correctly, the mad scientists at Plum
altered the Bb pathogen with mycoplasma DNA,
making it much more virulent?
And,
was there ONE accidental release of Lyme from Plum?
Or several?
Were there any Intentional releases?

Do you know anymore on that little girl from Connecticut
who was cured of Lyme during a visit to the Plum Island hospital?

I think you speculated that she was the daughter of someone
VERY-WELL-HEELED &  CONNECTED.

Have you ANY speculation of what the SECRET antidote for Lyme is?

Chuck (the goooood Chuck, not the Nitwit Chuck)

> How would Yale, the ALDF, and Zuckerman, et al know about
> these things, and what benefit would Israel gain in knowing what
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> as
> vaccines and 2) produced delayed-typed hypersensitivity responses.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=2435824&query_hl=25


> Mycoplasmas also infect the brain causing a spongiform encephalopathy.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> 2) Study Tully JG.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&term=%22Tully
+JG%22%5BAuthor%5D

> mycoplasmal and spiroplasmal infections are also carried in ticks.
>
> Remember Klempner talking about leprosy (a mycoplasmal infection) ?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=14670349&query_hl=29

> "Molecular mechanisms of MHC linked susceptibility in leprosy: towards
> the development of synthetic vaccines."
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> that haplotype
> finding yet:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=15631071&query_hl=36


> We're as sick as we *say* we are.  *We're* just not allowed to know
> about it, whereas Zuckerman is ???  And all of his biotech- investing
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> them Zuckerman and Wolfowitz? And how about we also throw in Ed
> McSweegan as a bonus??

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=9530694&query_hl=47

> "Tick-borne diseases of sheep and goats and their related vectors in
> Iran."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> and, 1983, Yale:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=6382832&query_hl=47

> Yale J Biol Med. 1983 Sep-Dec;56(5-6):799-813. Related Articles, Links
>
[quoted text clipped - 148 lines]
>
> Kathleen
lisasawitch - 07 Aug 2005 00:21 GMT
> Responses to the survey.
>
[quoted text clipped - 319 lines]
>
> Kathleen
 
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