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*If You Have An *Unanswered* Health Problem,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH

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LadyLollipop - 01 Aug 2005 05:29 GMT
*IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of
metali n the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.

I did, it saved my life

. Mercury is Poisonous. There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.
The
mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the
other
sources together.

U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from
discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams,
fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others.

The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed
mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.*

The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount of
mercury
in the environment

http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm

17. DENTAL AMALGAM Dental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin
alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste
Removal Form for its disposal

==========

There is a nutcase stalker that will follow this post with all kinds of
lies. His has a pattern of stalking any and all who have ever reported
success using alternative medicine. He has run these people off with his
badgering and harassing. He has failed to do so with me. He is obsessed and
angry because he has failed.

He has no proof of his lies. He has been asked to post it, he can not.

Ignore him.

See my post, why can't Richard H Jacobson show us proof?

He also has wished illness on me

He is a very sick man and needs help.

I have helped others and will continue.

Also see my post of health improvements form removal of amalgams.

Posted from others I have helped:

Jan - don't let them get you down. You never know how many people you
>reach who don't say anything.
>You are so right - amalgams and root canals. The cancer of
>dentistry. Keep up the good work. My
>compliments to you on your even tempered and thorough response. Some
>people just don't want to
>learn because they know they will have to radically change their dental
>practice if they are convinced
>of the error of their ways. And some people like bbb just scream about
>anything. They will never learn.
>But others will - and you are reaching them.

>Good Work!

>=============================>I have read a lot of your postings with great
>interest. From other sources
>on
>the internet that I read, what you say is correct. I am 58 years and have
>had
>4 root canals and about 6 crowns done on my teeth. Now, one of the root
>canal/crowns is flaring up with an infection at the tip of the root. First
>time in my life, something like this has happened.

>At my age, my teeth have started cracking. In light of what has been
>researched and written, I see no reason to continue on with modern
>dentistry.

>I will get the tooth pulled. The idea is to not have any more root canals
>or
>crowns. Just start pulling and in the years ahead, get false teeth. When I
>run out of enough natural teeth.

>You were very brave to do your postings on the internet. I commend you for
>them.

>===========================>Subject: Kudos to Jan Drew
>From: "Lance Mannion" lancemann...@nospam.net
>Date: 11/12/02 9:57 AM US Eastern Standard Time

>Message-id: <7F8A9.27789$y45.97195...@news.primus.ca>>Long time lurker,
>first time poster.

>I have watched with amusement the idiocy of the dentists here on
>this NG, especially Joel, who attack Jan, and ignore her postings.
>The power of "groupthink" is quite amazing when viewing it from
>the outside as an unbiased observer.

>It is particularly amusing how powerful bias can be, when a group
>cannot recognize that something that is hazardous waste by the
>EPA's definition, is ok in the mouth. This should at least open
>one's mind to the *possibility* that amalgams are hazardous in
>*some* (not all) people. But noooooooo, the supposedly educated
>dental professionals here are all-knowing.

>I am a well educated, reasonable person, with a background in
>statistics. I had my amalgams out, and yes, it did cure several
>lifelong, chronic health conditions. It was *not* easy, and in
>fact, is probably a risky procedure, since you do expose yourself
>to lots of Hg upon removal. The detox has taken a long time, and
>has been extremely unpleasant.

>Re: Rich's postings - it is possible that some of Jan's improvement
>was due to placebo. Heck, I felt better immediately after my amalgam
>removal. That quickly changed as the Hg flooded into my body. Even
>if Jan had some improvement due to placebo, that doesn't preclude
>her from having Hg poisoning.

>Re: Joel - this guy is an idiot. His posts do nothing for the credibility
>of the "pro amalgam" side. I don't think he could handle a real debate.
>All he does is post stupid articles and one-liners - what a dolt !

>So Jan, keep up the good work, fight the good fight. Time will prove
>us correct. Don't give up. It's tough, and usually lonely, being on the
>cutting edge, and going against the conventional wisdom

>===============================>> Lance,

>> Kudos to you for trying to argue with this crowd. Last year I posted
>> some questions here and was promptly attacked by the usual suspects. I
>> was surprised by their nastiness for a while, but a dentist I met at the
>> chelation clinic explained how scared the dentists are regarding this
>> issue. Essentially those who attack you have one single objective:
>> cover their gluteus max. They know they will be sued the hell out of
>> them soon, and are trying their obnoxious best to delay the inevitable.

>> I had 17-year slow downward spiral that was only stopped last year by
>> taking out amalgam fillings and going through chelation therapy. Only
>> now, after over a year of treatment, I feel physically well enough to do
>> some garden work and mentally well enough to work on math (current
>> study: stochastic differential equations). Short-term memory is also
>> recovering and I don't feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone
>> episodes anymore.

>> Don't let these bozos annoy you, they just cannot help being themselves
>> when it comes their wallet.

>> qborba

>P.S. And of course Kudos to Jan Drew. She did more service to
>> Hg-poisoned people than anyone else I know.

>============================>Hi Jan

>Ive been reading some of your posts on alternative med support and now the
>dental site. I'll spare you my long story but ive had horrendous bilateral
>leg
>neuropathy from what I believe is Hg poisoning. Have had amalgams removed
>and
>done DMPS chelation with much improvement. Still have a ways to go but im
>getting there. Keep up the fight!

>And I have received a few others, and was asked not to post them as the
>poster
>didn't wish to be harassed by the dentists here.

>This one I received recently.

>The people on the NG seem very hostile. Chances are my dentist is dead, so
>I can't sue him, even if I wanted to. I have been suffering from something
>that the doctors can't explain. I had this filling put in 30 years
>ago.  It seems to be corroding.    Anyway, I've had this problem for 9
>years. I stumbled across a site that seemed to mimic exactly what my
>symptoms are. Can you tell me what your symptoms were. I feel like I'm
>dying but the doctors can't find out what's going on. Thanks for the web
>site address. Couldn't get on. I'll try later.
>                                            thanx 4

>                 help

Keep up the fight.  I emailed you back a while ago.  The Canadian dentists
haven't been using mercury since about 2000.  My dentist told me that they
have to wrap it up in special containers and send them to a toxic waste
place, but at the same time it's still ok for the American Dentist's to put
it in your mouth......sounds kinda funny to me.  I had one of my fillings
extracted today, after a root canal, 4 fillings left to go.   I hear you're
only supposed to do one at a time........lotsa fun.......anyway, have a
good XMAS...good luck with your crusade..........plenty of people on your
side.............
Rich.@. - 01 Aug 2005 05:36 GMT
>IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!
>
>NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of
>metali n the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.
>
>I did, it saved my life

And now for the truth:

On June 16, 1999 the day before Jan Drew began to have her amalgams
removed Jan Drew stated that her health had been rapidly
deteriorating over months due to mercury poisoning from amalgams and
that she had severe foot pain and was bedridden.

On June 17-18, 1999 Jan Drew had 8 of 12 amalgams removed and said
she looked forward to having the rest of the mercury out.

On June 18, 1999 Jan Drew stated that she felt better than she had in
two years.

>>>> On June 18, 1999 Jan Drew says:
>>>>I have been reading this thread. I have peripheral neuropathy. I have found a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>>
>>>>>Jan

Jan Drew claimed that the reason that she felt better than she had in
two years is because of relief that the dental work was over. The
dental work obviously was NOT over as she had four more amalgams and
a root canal to be removed. Not only was the dental work not over, it
had just BEGUN the day before she felt better.

>>>>Rich for the LAST time, I said I felt better than I had in two years. That was
>>>>very true. I had been very very ill and my health was deteriorating fast. After
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>>>
>>>>What's so hard to understand?

What's so hard to understand is how Jan Drew/Lady Lollipop can
continue to lie after her lies are completely exposed.

Jan Drew claims that she knows that removing amalgams puts MORE
mercury in the body.

>>>>>>There's never been any arguement about the fact that removing amalgams puts
>>>>>>more mercury in the body.

On June 26, 1999 Jan Drew claimed that her foot pain was gone and that
she was able to go out line dancing. So on June 16,1999 Jan Drew is
bedridden dying of mercury poisoning. On June 17-18, 1999 she has 8 of
12 amalgams out which by Jan's own admission puts MORE mercury in the
body and eight days later is not only not bedridden but line dancing
with no more foot pain (Note that the pain soon returned since placebo
responses are short lived).

>> http://tinyurl.com/674oy
>>On June 26, 1999 Jan Drew said:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>MD, it was only AFTER the metal was removed that it started dropping and I
>>started to regain my health.

http://tinyurl.com/dm67s



>Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
>From: jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) -  
>Date: 27 Nov 2004 04:13:43 GMT
>Local: Fri,Nov 26 2004 11:13 pm  
>Subject: Re: Mercury Levels Highest After Amalgam Removal


>>Subject: Mercury Levels Highest After Amalgam Removal
>>From: Mark Thorson nos...@sonic.net
>>Date: 11/26/2004 6:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <41A7EBE9.D7805...@sonic.net>


>>These studies show that mercury levels increase in the
>>days following amalgam removal, and don't decline
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>Then do tell us what this mercury coming from amalgams does to the body.
>>>Jan

Jan Drew is a despicable liar. She says that she did not begin to
regain her health until AFTER her mercury level dropped. On June 26,
1999 only a week after having eight amalgams out Jan Drew's mercury
level was HIGHER than it was on June 16,1999 when she said she was
bedridden and dying of mercury poisoning. On June 26,1999 she says all
her foot pain is gone and she is going out line dancing. She clearly
was beginning to regain her health BEFORE her mercury level dropped.
And Jan knows it!!!

Jan cannot explain any of the above. All she can do is attack me for
exposing her bogus claim of mercury poisoning. And the despicable Jan
Drew has been trying to stop me from exposing her lies by filing
complaints to my ISP and stalking me by posting what she believes is
my address and phone number, and trying to call me and others who
might know me.

Perhaps all can be explained by Jan's statement that she found out I
was a Jew. Jan is despicable. Jan is evil. Jan is an anti-semite.

There was a woman Jan Drew
Who really had not a clue
She said she was dying
But really was lying
While stirring a witches brew

Aloha,

Rich

PS: I give a 100% guarantee that Jan Drew will not reconcile her
contradictory history and instead divert attention by starting a new
post attacking in order to get others to respond to the post and
continue the attack. Or maybe she will continue her stalking by
posting what she believes to be my address and phone number.

Or Jan Drew/Lady Lollipop make get her sock puppet troll, PeterB to
answer for her. Just watch.
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Best defense to logic is ignorance
Mark Probert - 01 Aug 2005 14:48 GMT
> *IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

Yes, if your doctors teeth are loose, then you may not have understood
what he said. Get him some poli-grip (I do not own stock in the company).
 
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