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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / August 2005NEW SCIENCE REVEALS RISK BEHIND SATURATED FATS
NEW SCIENCE REVEALS RISK BEHIND SATURATED FATS Forwarded message from Fidyl <fidyl@yahoo.com> [ Subject: New science reveals risk behind saturated fats [ From: Fidyl <fidyl@yahoo.com> [ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 New science reveals risk behind saturated fats A diet high in cream, cheese and other saturated fat rich foods can influence the uptake of bad cholesterol to the arteries, confirms new research. 7/25/2005 http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/news/ng.asp?n=61481&m=1fnu725&c=qdrhrvoeraoqydo Scientists are already aware that a diet high in saturated fat increases plasma cholesterol levels (LDL levels) and atherosclerosis. But it was not known how dietary fats directly affect uptake of LDL cholesterol ester, and whether selective uptake was a factor. While we need some fat in our diet, because it helps the body absorb some vitamins, is a good source of energy and a source of the essential fatty acids that the body can not make itself, having too much saturated fat can increase the amount of cholesterol in the blood, which increases the chance of developing heart disease. Saturated fats are found in a wide variety of foods, including :meat products, meat pies, sausages; hard cheese; butter and lard; pastry; cakes and biscuits; cream, soured cream and crème fraîche; coconut oil, coconut cream or palm oil. Scientists at Columbia University in the US now suggest that diet can influence delivery of LDL cholesterol ester to arteries via selective uptake, affecting cholesterol depostion and atherogenesis. Selective uptake is a process whereby LDL cholesterol esters can be delivered to cell independent of the full LDL molecule. For the study, mice that are relatively atherosclerosis resistant (C57BL/6) or susceptible to atherosclerosis (apoE-/-) were fed a chow or a saturated fat diet and then injected with double radiolabelled or fluorescent- labelled human LDL, to independently trace LDL-CE core and whole-particle uptake, respectively. "Our results show that a SAT [saturated-fat] diet increased contributions of selective uptake to total arterial LDL-cholesteryl ester delivery in C57BL/6 and apoE-/- mice," report the researchers. The saturated fat-rich diet increased plasma fatty acid and cholesterol levels. These studies suggest that arterial LDL-CE delivery via SU [selective uptake] can be an important mechanism in vivo, and that dietary influences on arterial LPL levels and atherogenesis modulate arterial LDL-CE delivery, cholesterol deposition, and SU, they conclude. 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I hardly think that anyone is going to find the news that saturated fat is bad for you particularly shocking, or be particularly surprised that someone found more evidence of it. Cathy The saturated fat came from a mixture of coconut oil, olive oil, corn oil, & safflower oil. Only one of those is saturated... Not only that it's not even ANIMAL staturated fat which from what I understand has a different fatty acid profile than say coconut oil. Corn and safflower oil are both known to cause lots of health problems in animals and humans. There is no real evidence that saturated fat per se is bad for you. It is easy to make blanket statements, but they are rarely ever correct. There is a lot of grey area in nutrition, and it sucks that stuff like this makes it to the headlines confusing people. All saturated fats are not the same. A healthy cow treated well, eating grass, and living in a non-poluted environment is going to have much healthier beneficial fat than one stuck in a crowded factory farm eating grain and injected with antibiotics. > NEW SCIENCE REVEALS RISK BEHIND SATURATED FATS > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/news/ng.asp?n=61481&m=1fnu725&c=qdrhrvoeraoqydo > The saturated fat came from a mixture of coconut oil, olive oil, corn > oil, & safflower oil. Only one of those is saturated... Not only that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > much healthier beneficial fat than one stuck in a crowded factory farm > eating grain and injected with antibiotics. You obviously know nothing about either food science or dairy farming. Neither science nor your body could tell from milk fats what the cow ate or how it was treated. Treating cows well is an integral part of dairy farming. Happy cows produce more milk, and production is profit. Dairy farmers are not stupid hicks that mistreat their cows for fun. Milk is tested for antibiotics, and rejected by the dairy co-op if it is contaminated. So dairy farmers are VERY careful to keep antibiotics out of the milk. Not to say that they don't use antibiotics. As you say, healthiness is important for cows, and cows, like humans, sometimes need some antibiotics to stay that way. Grass is an important component of a dairy cow's diet in the summertime. It is non-existant in the winter, and replaced by hay, silage, or "haylage". Grain supplements are important, too, because grass alone could never supply the calorie content needed by a productive cow. You are just spouting off a lot of hippie-dippie PC bullshit.  Signature--Rich Recommended websites: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/ > "Chris C" <chrisc@mindspring.com> wrote in message > > All saturated fats are not the same. A healthy cow treated well, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You obviously know nothing about either food science or dairy farming. It doesn't seem like you do either. > Neither science nor your body could tell from milk fats what the cow ate or > how it was treated. Treating cows well is an integral part of dairy farming. > Happy cows produce more milk, and production is profit. For one thing.... who said I was talking about milk? Since we're talking about milk, do you know what makes butter yellow? (Other than using food coloring that is). Were do you think that yellow comes from? Grain? > Dairy farmers are > not stupid hicks that mistreat their cows for fun. Milk is tested for > antibiotics, and rejected by the dairy co-op if it is contaminated. Never said they were, but they are trying to run a business right? And things like Bgh were initially introduced for that very purpose correct? Or was that to make the cows happy and healthy? >So dairy > farmers are VERY careful to keep antibiotics out of the milk. Not to say > that they don't use antibiotics. As you say, healthiness is important for > cows, and cows, like humans, sometimes need some antibiotics to stay that > way. Antibiotics have there place when it comes to saving someone from a crippling disease when it's a last resort, but for the most part they are making humans and animals more sickly. >Grass is an important component of a dairy cow's diet in the > summertime. It is non-existant in the winter, Depends on where you live now doesn't it? Or are you under the impression that the entire earth gets covered in snow every year? > and replaced by hay, silage, > or "haylage". Grain supplements are important, too, because grass alone > could never supply the calorie content needed by a productive cow. And what ever did those poor cows eat before us people came along? They must have all starved to death! :-O I get all the 100% grassfed dairy I want. Well they do get some alfalfa, etc. I'm sorry I choose cows on a good diet as upposed to a "productive" diet and no I don't think that grain and industrial waste products are a good diet, no matter what time of the year. And you listing a bunch of skeptic sites is just as pathetic as the hippies you claim to dislike. It just replaces one dogma with another. > > "Chris C" <chrisc@mindspring.com> wrote in message > > > All saturated fats are not the same. A healthy cow treated well, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > (Other than using food coloring that is). Were do you think that > yellow comes from? Grain? Yes, from grain, partly. The yellow color is carotene which the cow obtains from various sources in her diet. Because the diet of cows changes through the seasons, so does the color of butter. Now where do YOU think the yellow in butter comes from? > > Dairy farmers are > > not stupid hicks that mistreat their cows for fun. Milk is tested for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And things like Bgh were initially introduced for that very purpose > correct? Yes, they were, and I've never approved of the practice. > Or was that to make the cows happy and healthy? I don't see that BGH affects the happiness of cows one way or another. > >So dairy > > farmers are VERY careful to keep antibiotics out of the milk. Not to say [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > crippling disease when it's a last resort, but for the most part they > are making humans and animals more sickly. If antibiotic therapy were always delayed until it were a "last resort", it would indeed be the LAST resort in many cases. You may have difficulty supporting your thesis that antibiotics "are making humans and animals more sickly". > >Grass is an important component of a dairy cow's diet in the > > summertime. It is non-existant in the winter, > > Depends on where you live now doesn't it? Or are you under the > impression that the entire earth gets covered in snow every year? Most dairy farming is done in the world's temperate climates. > > and replaced by hay, silage, > > or "haylage". Grain supplements are important, too, because grass alone > > could never supply the calorie content needed by a productive cow. > > And what ever did those poor cows eat before us people came along? > They must have all starved to death! :-O The modern dairy cow did not exist "before people came along". Their ancestors probably did starve to death in great numbers during hard winters. In any case, they were not expected to produce more than ten times their body weight in milk AND a calf every year. A working dairy cow is unprofitable if she does not do so. > I get all the 100% grassfed dairy I want. That makes the cows happier? > Well they do get some > alfalfa, etc. I'm sorry I choose cows on a good diet as upposed to a > "productive" diet and no I don't think that grain and industrial waste > products are a good diet, no matter what time of the year. "Industrial waste products"? > And you listing a bunch of skeptic sites is just as pathetic as the > hippies you claim to dislike. It just replaces one dogma with another. When did I claim to dislike hippies? I'm as much a hippie as anyone in my generation. But we hippies do not all agree on everything any more than any other group of people. The skeptic sites offer reality based information, not dogma. They are a breath of fresh air compared to the miasma of magical nonsense that pollutes the internet and this ng. --Rich ("Pathetic" skeptic links omitted because I'm not at my own computer, and I don't feel like looking up the urls.) |
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