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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / July 2005Mercury in Vaccines: The Appalling Truth Revealed
"Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team: http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski "autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their blogs ... though I do not know who they are exactly yet. Just like black people tortured by KKK members wearing masks ... if they survived the attacks ... they may or may not have been able to identify the perpetrators. That's why they use masks. One of the posters told this story in his post: "Please keep in mind that Big Pharma has plenty of hired guns in the form of law firms and PR firms who are paid to conduct these attacks on the Internet. We outed one on the parents.com autism help board named who was banned once he was reported as a member of a law firm team paid to conduct such attacks." New discussion on Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jay-gordon/we-must-continue-to-pur su_4612.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/robert-f-kennedy-jr/thimerosal-cov erup-let-_4561.html Lively discussion on this topic on the Huffingon Post ... note how many of the Rag-tag Posse Team are there ... hiding behind aliases ... too ashamed to put their names to their lies. > "Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from > Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team: > > http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski OK - why do you say that? > "autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their > blogs > ... though I do not know who they are exactly yet. So you admit that in this case the accusation is unfounded.  Signature00doc I don't know who you are ... But this I know: David H. Gorski, MD posts on Usenet and in the BlogWorld using the ever so humble, misguided moniker, "orac knows." He has been actively participating ... asserting his authority as a teaching surgeon ... while giving false information on Huffington Blog and his own ... to name but two. Here are 2 threads on the subject ... if they don't work on google ...you may write me and I'll send you the links. Here are 2 where Gorski and the other two you mentioned all are linked to the dubious and discredited quackwatch.com pages. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jay-gordon/we-must-continue-to-pur su_4612.html#comments http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/robert-f-kennedy-jr/thimerosal-cov erup-let-_4561.html He is part of the quackwatch/ratbags Posse ... and you need only click here to see him lined up with Probert and Langer and Nidiffer and Dalefield ... to name but a few of the characters that are known here. http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Probert http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Langer http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Nidiffer aka nanaweedkiller http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski aka 'orac' Altho he calls his own blog 'respectful insolence' ... his vast insolence is anything but. He made the outrageously "intellectually dishonest" claim in the Kennedy thread: "Given that thimerosal hasn't been in vaccines since early 2003... " Several vaccines still have thimerosal... and for the record ... the rates in California are blessedly falling. Using his typical ad hominen attacks on Dr. Wakefield ... he makes denials about Autistic Enterocolitis as if he, a teaching surgeon, should be considered 'the' authority. He isn't. One good explanation of The Case For Autistic Enterocolitis is found here: http://www.autisme-montreal.com/congres/2003/Krigsman.html To deny that a subset of human beings react extremely negatively to vaccines is pure propaganda ... and Gorski (orac) like the other healthfrauds, typically rush to conclusions on ongoing medical controversies such as this one. On the Parents.com autism board ... a Vac Attorney was caught lying about who he was and taking a strong stand ... similar to Gorski's ... it was uncovered who was behind his disguise. Gorski's professional website lists several insurance companies he is promoting someway ... I have no doubt they have much at stake in this issue. So 00docdoc ... the 3 of the most vocal and attempting to lie about their identities are all quackwatch related ... Their little empire I hope is tilting ... they've ruled the Medical Information for too long ... and using too many weapons of denial, SLAPP suits, anonymous harassers, etc. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/quackbustersvsilena.htm >>"Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from >>Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > So you admit that in this case the accusation is unfounded. Funny that KARLa ROVEnthal does not know who skeptico is. He tells everyone right on his blog. Also, note the persistent inquisitional attitude of KARLa ROVEnthal, where is is obvious that she has the intent of outing anyone who disagress with her, just like Karl did to Mrs. Plame. And, she whines (correctly, though) about the administration getting us into a moronic war in Iraq. The level of outright hypocrisy is utterly astounding. > "Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from > Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their blogs > ... though I do not know who they are exactly yet. As for "autismdiva" one can just check who is the registered owner of domain "autismdiva.org". I would not post the name here, anybody can find out. It is a female, initials are C.C., she is not in this list. It may be fake because the domain registrars do not check any information besides clearance of the check. But I found a web site where the same C.C. is introduced as the owner of oddizm.com. And it is really registered in her name, so it looks real. Interestingly, www.oddizm.com promotes "autismdiva". "You gotta love a Diva who tells it like it is", C.C. praises herself pretending to be somebody else. C.C. presents herself as a student of Psychology in California. (And "Orac" who claims to be a scientist values her opinions so much! Interesting, isn't it?) Addition to my previous post. On one web site (http://www.autismspectrum.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=255) we can read about "C.C., an art history graduate student at the University of California at Davis who has Asperger's Syndrome". That is July 2004. On another (http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/330/7500/1154#106981) she is participating in discussion of David Kirby's book and presents herself as "undergraduate student psychology major UC Davis". This is June 2005. Something is wrong. She quotes "autismdiva". She indicates "no competing interests". Parents of autistic children in the discussion show it as "competing interest", why didn't C.C. mention her Asperger's? Not only would it be honest, it would strengthen her point that autism does not necessitate mental retardation. Something is wrong again, and maybe the name is not real after all. But it looks like PR. Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. Except to some. > Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded amiably > by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. > > Except to some. However, when the intent is to trash someone because they cannot refute them, then it becomes a big deal, especially to KARLa ROVEnthal. >> Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded >> amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > However, when the intent is to trash someone because they cannot refute > them, then it becomes a big deal, especially to KARLa ROVEnthal. But we know that based on her past activities the intent of KARLa is to stalk rather than refute. >>>Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded >>>amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > But we know that based on her past activities the intent of KARLa is to > stalk rather than refute. Stalk and trash. "Outing" is part of the overall definition of cyberstalking, IMNSHO. >>>>Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded >>>>amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Stalk and trash. "Outing" is part of the overall definition of > cyberstalking, IMNSHO. The one who holds the record for cyberstalking is defended by trash like Mark Probert! Nana Weedkiller Is most definitely *trash* INMHSO Jan >>>>>Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded >>>>>amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Is most definitely *trash* INMHSO And, I was the one who defended you when someone called you trailer trash. Snifff...I am not hurt. >Nana Weedkiller > >Is most definitely *trash* INMHSO > >Jan >On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:57:03 GMT, "LadyLollipop" ><LadyLollipop@insightbb.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>only those filled with hate have a >>need to belittle and call names. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Best defense to logic is ignorance Seriously, don't you think you should take this "offline." I mean, if you aren't a Pharma Blogger out to destroy the credibility of an innocent poster who questions the value of mainstream medicine. Oops. Never mind... PeterB > Seriously, don't you think you should take this "offline." I mean, if > you aren't a Pharma Blogger out to destroy the credibility of an > innocent poster who questions the value of mainstream medicine. Oops. > Never mind... > > PeterB I just found this recently. It most definitely shows the attacking of Richard H Jacobson. He knows MORE than Diamond Hedache Clinic. I wonder what has happened in Rich's life that has made him this way? He is to be pitied. Jan From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Wed, 14 July 1999 12:42 AM EDT >>On 13 Jul 1999 05:29:08 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) wrote: jd >I really don't know what your problem is. rj >None that I know of. >jd>That is the worse kind, you are in denial. Perhaps someone could help >you >with that? rj>I appreciate your concern Jan. Good thing that it is not YOU who is in >denial:-))) >rj>>Yes, I imagine that I am not the first or the last who has suggested >>>that you have psychosomatic problems. >jd >Yes, it fits with all who believe that if you don't fit the recepie >book, >you are labeled. That is easier than finding a cause. It is a old stand by >used >by convential medicene. rj >I could understand your frustration in trying to get an answer to your >health concerns and not having conventional medicine be helpful to >you. jd I doubt that. Has it happened to you? Words are easy, experience has value. .rj> Perhaps your health problems have much to do with psychologic factors which you are in denial about. >It is not unusual for those >with unresolved psychologic conflicts to have them expressed >somatically with physical complaints. jd Not unusal by whose standards? The doctor who can't find the cause? They have a hard time even deciding which drug will work. In the meantime the patent's body is loaded with toxic side effects. Trade headaches for peripheral neuropathy? rj >>> In any case I find it interesting that the only medication that >>>worked for your headaches was Nardil which is an antidepressant. >>>Nardil is NOT used to treat headaches in the absence of a depressive >>>disorder. jd Begging your pardon. Nardil IS given for headaches. It was given to me and it did help my headaches. As I explained to you, depression can be caused from pain. (you seem to snip what you can't address) You imply that depression is something to be ashamed of. I don't believe you will find a single case where someone has been in pain for a period of time without being depressed. I also ask you if you thought you would not be depressed? Are you capable of putting yourself in someone else's shoes? Most people do not realize that anitdepressants are used for headaches. rj >That is certainly true of tricyclic antidepressants. However Nardil is >an MAOI and is NOT used for headaches. In fact it can cause rather >severe headaches if the wrong foods are ingested. It would NOT be a >drug of choice with someone with headaches unless they had some >underlying depression. jd Tell me all about it Rich. Do you really think that I wore a medical braclet without knowing all about the wrong foods and wrong drugs that were limited with Nardil. I have already told here my experience with a podiatrist who gave me cortisone which should not be taken with Nardil. You think maybe that could cause depression? jd I certainly was tested to >>see if I was psychosomatic. rj >Oh really?? And what kind of test determines if you are psychosomatic. jd I had all kinds of tests. I do not remember all the names. I do know that if I had any thoughts of suicide they would not have given it to me. I also talked with the doctors who did the tests and was told I was mentally healthy. Depression does not mean you have mental problems. rj > I guess that you do not realize that Nardil is a >>very powerful drug. It would be easy to kill yourself (by taking other >>drugs >or >>alcohol) with very little problem. The patient is evaluated and revaluated >>before given Nardil. Guess you are not quite as smart as you think? >A strawman argument. jd zzzzzzzzzzzz another word used when you can't address the subject. rj Where did I say that Nardil was NOT a powerful >drug with potentially harmful side effects?? Do u have a reading >comprehension problem too?? jd Another attempt to try to show your superior intelligence? jd >My EMG tests show I have peripheral neuropathy. Have any idea what that >is, Rich? rj >Yep. >>OK, describe the pain. jd>Different people experience the pain differently. You could have >burning, tingling, pins and needles sensation as well as sharp pains. rj Oh? Are you saying that the pain is real? I notice it took you a while to answer this post. Were you busy searching for the effects of PN? Have you experienced the pain? rj >>>As are you. It obviously helps you to believe that you have a >>>condition for which you believe that you are receiving the effective >>>treatment to combat it. jd>>Naaw, I don'treally believe that, I was just bored and thought I would try >>getting some new fillings. rj >No, you were feeling quite lousy and desperate for ANYTHING to work. jd So? You wouldn't be loking for an answer if it was you? rj >After all, conventional medicine was telling you that it was all in >your head or that they could not help you. jd Is this a guess? Not one doctor ever told me that it was all in my head. This diagnoses came alive on this NG. rj So instead of just giving up you sought ANY POSSIBLE way to relieve your pain. And lord knows >there are dozens of explanations in the alt.health.world to account >for your symptoms and you latched onto heavy metals. jd Latched on to? You need to do some more research on PN, you will find that heavy metals is a cause. You will also find that toxic effect from drugs are a cause. Would you rather I just accept the PN as a way of life, and go to pain management? Where I can get more drugs? What would you do????? >>How could anyone be irritable with such a wonderful, concerned guy such as >>yourself? The sweetness shows so much in all your posts to me. rj >Don't mention it Jan. You are a sweetheart too. jd Rich, if you truly believe that I am mentally ill, is this an example of how you would treat someone? Why don't you volunteer to help at your local mental health center? There you could physically kick around someone who is mental ill. Would that make you feel good about yourself? Until you show me that you are concerned about my health, rather than winning an agruement, just don't bother to reply to my posts. >>Keep smi......inn >:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 >>Aloha, >Rich jd I guess you haven't seen me say keep smi..inn before? I do not know what the above means, but I have seen Yarrow use it, so it must be something really nice. You want to be in the same category as she??? If you must reply to me, please do not snip my part of the posts. In the meantime, please try to image what I have already endured. Granted that is very hard, when it has not happened to you. Yes, I know this is not a support group. People can be compassionate regardless of what the NG is. Well, most people. Maybe not those who have a hang up with basic human emotions. Jan >From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 03:12 AM EDT >On 13 Jul 1999 05:29:08 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) wrote: >>I really don't know what your problem is. >None that I know of. jd That is the worse kind, you are in denial. Perhaps someone could help you with that? rj But you sure seem to have your share of problems. jd No, I think I have had more than my share. However I haven't given up as many people who just accept it as a way of life. I am doing something about, I guess that bothers you? And what happened to all your concern that this NG was so stressful to me? Are you contributing to that stress? > You take great delight in your claims >>of my being psychosomatic. So be it. I can do without it. rj>Yes, I imagine that I am not the first or the last who has suggested >that you have psychosomatic problems. jd Yes, it fits with all who believe that if you don't fit the recepie book, you are labeled. That is easier than finding a cause. It is a old stand by used by convential medicene. jd >>Now, I will move on to get the mercury out of my body. It will take a long >>time. rj>Yeah. Better luck next life. jd Your compassion overwhelms me. You really should seek help. >>I am pretty sick of people telling me that all my problems are in my head. >>Diamond Headache Clinic knew my headaches were real. rj>I never said that your headaches were not real. They still were ALL in >your head so to speak. > In any case I find it interesting that the only medication that >worked for your headaches was Nardil which is an antidepressant. >Nardil is NOT used to treat headaches in the absence of a depressive >disorder. jd Most people do not realize that anitdepressants are used for headaches. Diamond Headache Clinic has discovered it. All people who have had headaches over a period of time are depressed. Do you think you could have had one for 12 years straight without being depressed? Depression can be caused by pain. rj Whoever evaluated you determined that your headaches may be >secondary to some kind of depressive disorder associated with numerous >somatic complaints including cephalgia. jd Oh? Gosh, Rich, if only I had known you before Diamond. You could have dignosed me and saved me. I'll tell Connecticut General insurance to contact you. They could have saved $97,000.00 that they spent on me. Then, I will contact Diamond and see if you can be on the list of doctors there. I certainly was tested to see if I was psychosomatic. I guess that you do not realize that Nardil is a very powerful drug. It would be easy to kill yourself (by taking other drugs or alcohol) with very little problem. The patient is evaluated and revaluated before given Nardil. Guess you are not quite as smart as you think? >>My EMG tests show I have peripheral neuropathy. Have any idea what that >>is, >>Rich? >Yep. OK, describe the pain. > There are many people who have mercury poisoning. It is not a fairy >>tale. I am on a metals list, everyone there has mercury poisoning. There [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >of >>it. He has written a book. >>You are free to believe whatever you please. >As are you. It obviously helps you to believe that you have a >condition for which you believe that you are receiving the effective >treatment to combat it. Naaw, I don't really believe that, I was just bored and thought I would try getting some new fillings. It is loads of fun, and I have load of money. I noticed you didn't mention what the dentist found yesterday. strange, I was sure you would have a diagnoses for that also. >From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Fri, 16 July 1999 11:07 PM EDT I don't know why you have PN. It could just be idiopathic. You may >never know the cause. That's true. So you think I should fold my hand and say I give up??? It may give you comfort to think that you know >so that you could then take steps to correct it but removing amalgams >due to the belief that you are mercury poisoned does NOT seem >reasonable to me. But it is your life. That is because you have fallen for the ADA lies. rj >******Have you considered the possibility that God is punishing you for not >being a good enough Christian and that you need to pray more and lead >a more Christian life*******. JDrew63929 *******Jul 13 1999, 2:00 am********* I had the last of my mercury amalgams removed today. The oldest amalgam (43 years) had a copper base, which the dentist has never seen before. It also had decayed matter (mushy) beneath the copper. This does not show on an x-ray. Perhaps this is part of the problem? At any rate I am glad it is out. Now, I will move on to get the mercury out of my body. It will take a long time. >>Seriously, don't you think you should take this "offline." I mean, if >>you aren't a Pharma Blogger out to destroy the credibility of an >>innocent poster who questions the value of mainstream medicine. Oops. >>Never mind... >> >>PeterB Janny, when Petey says "take it off line" he means to email. Now, tell him your rules.... >>>Seriously, don't you think you should take this "offline." I mean, if >>>you aren't a Pharma Blogger out to destroy the credibility of an [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Janny, when Petey says "take it off line" he means to email. Now, tell him > your rules.... Here's what I said: I just found this recently. It most definitely shows the attacking of Richard H Jacobson. He knows MORE than Diamond Headache Clinic. I wonder what has happened in Rich's life that has made him this way? He is to be pitied. Jan From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Wed, 14 July 1999 12:42 AM EDT >>On 13 Jul 1999 05:29:08 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) wrote: jd >I really don't know what your problem is. rj >None that I know of. >jd>That is the worse kind, you are in denial. Perhaps someone could help >you >with that? rj>I appreciate your concern Jan. Good thing that it is not YOU who is in >denial:-))) >rj>>Yes, I imagine that I am not the first or the last who has suggested >>>that you have psychosomatic problems. >jd >Yes, it fits with all who believe that if you don't fit the recepie >book, >you are labeled. That is easier than finding a cause. It is a old stand by >used >by convential medicene. rj >I could understand your frustration in trying to get an answer to your >health concerns and not having conventional medicine be helpful to >you. jd I doubt that. Has it happened to you? Words are easy, experience has value. .rj> Perhaps your health problems have much to do with psychologic factors which you are in denial about. >It is not unusual for those >with unresolved psychologic conflicts to have them expressed >somatically with physical complaints. jd Not unusal by whose standards? The doctor who can't find the cause? They have a hard time even deciding which drug will work. In the meantime the patent's body is loaded with toxic side effects. Trade headaches for peripheral neuropathy? rj >>> In any case I find it interesting that the only medication that >>>worked for your headaches was Nardil which is an antidepressant. >>>Nardil is NOT used to treat headaches in the absence of a depressive >>>disorder. jd Begging your pardon. Nardil IS given for headaches. It was given to me and it did help my headaches. As I explained to you, depression can be caused from pain. (you seem to snip what you can't address) You imply that depression is something to be ashamed of. I don't believe you will find a single case where someone has been in pain for a period of time without being depressed. I also ask you if you thought you would not be depressed? Are you capable of putting yourself in someone else's shoes? Most people do not realize that anitdepressants are used for headaches. rj >That is certainly true of tricyclic antidepressants. However Nardil is >an MAOI and is NOT used for headaches. In fact it can cause rather >severe headaches if the wrong foods are ingested. It would NOT be a >drug of choice with someone with headaches unless they had some >underlying depression. jd Tell me all about it Rich. Do you really think that I wore a medical braclet without knowing all about the wrong foods and wrong drugs that were limited with Nardil. I have already told here my experience with a podiatrist who gave me cortisone which should not be taken with Nardil. You think maybe that could cause depression? jd I certainly was tested to >>see if I was psychosomatic. rj >Oh really?? And what kind of test determines if you are psychosomatic. jd I had all kinds of tests. I do not remember all the names. I do know that if I had any thoughts of suicide they would not have given it to me. I also talked with the doctors who did the tests and was told I was mentally healthy. Depression does not mean you have mental problems. rj > I guess that you do not realize that Nardil is a >>very powerful drug. It would be easy to kill yourself (by taking other >>drugs >or >>alcohol) with very little problem. The patient is evaluated and revaluated >>before given Nardil. Guess you are not quite as smart as you think? >A strawman argument. jd zzzzzzzzzzzz another word used when you can't address the subject. rj Where did I say that Nardil was NOT a powerful >drug with potentially harmful side effects?? Do u have a reading >comprehension problem too?? jd Another attempt to try to show your superior intelligence? jd >My EMG tests show I have peripheral neuropathy. Have any idea what that >is, Rich? rj >Yep. >>OK, describe the pain. jd>Different people experience the pain differently. You could have >burning, tingling, pins and needles sensation as well as sharp pains. rj Oh? Are you saying that the pain is real? I notice it took you a while to answer this post. Were you busy searching for the effects of PN? Have you experienced the pain? rj >>>As are you. It obviously helps you to believe that you have a >>>condition for which you believe that you are receiving the effective >>>treatment to combat it. jd>>Naaw, I don'treally believe that, I was just bored and thought I would try >>getting some new fillings. rj >No, you were feeling quite lousy and desperate for ANYTHING to work. jd So? You wouldn't be loking for an answer if it was you? rj >After all, conventional medicine was telling you that it was all in >your head or that they could not help you. jd Is this a guess? Not one doctor ever told me that it was all in my head. This diagnoses came alive on this NG. rj So instead of just giving up you sought ANY POSSIBLE way to relieve your pain. And lord knows >there are dozens of explanations in the alt.health.world to account >for your symptoms and you latched onto heavy metals. jd Latched on to? You need to do some more research on PN, you will find that heavy metals is a cause. You will also find that toxic effect from drugs are a cause. Would you rather I just accept the PN as a way of life, and go to pain management? Where I can get more drugs? What would you do????? >>How could anyone be irritable with such a wonderful, concerned guy such as >>yourself? The sweetness shows so much in all your posts to me. rj >Don't mention it Jan. You are a sweetheart too. jd Rich, if you truly believe that I am mentally ill, is this an example of how you would treat someone? Why don't you volunteer to help at your local mental health center? There you could physically kick around someone who is mental ill. Would that make you feel good about yourself? Until you show me that you are concerned about my health, rather than winning an agruement, just don't bother to reply to my posts. >>Keep smi......inn >:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0 >>Aloha, >Rich jd I guess you haven't seen me say keep smi..inn before? I do not know what the above means, but I have seen Yarrow use it, so it must be something really nice. You want to be in the same category as she??? If you must reply to me, please do not snip my part of the posts. In the meantime, please try to image what I have already endured. Granted that is very hard, when it has not happened to you. Yes, I know this is not a support group. People can be compassionate regardless of what the NG is. Well, most people. Maybe not those who have a hang up with basic human emotions. Jan >From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 03:12 AM EDT >On 13 Jul 1999 05:29:08 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (JDrew63929) wrote: >>I really don't know what your problem is. >None that I know of. jd That is the worse kind, you are in denial. Perhaps someone could help you with that? rj But you sure seem to have your share of problems. jd No, I think I have had more than my share. However I haven't given up as many people who just accept it as a way of life. I am doing something about, I guess that bothers you? And what happened to all your concern that this NG was so stressful to me? Are you contributing to that stress? > You take great delight in your claims >>of my being psychosomatic. So be it. I can do without it. rj>Yes, I imagine that I am not the first or the last who has suggested >that you have psychosomatic problems. jd Yes, it fits with all who believe that if you don't fit the recepie book, you are labeled. That is easier than finding a cause. It is a old stand by used by convential medicene. jd >>Now, I will move on to get the mercury out of my body. It will take a long >>time. rj>Yeah. Better luck next life. jd Your compassion overwhelms me. You really should seek help. >>I am pretty sick of people telling me that all my problems are in my head. >>Diamond Headache Clinic knew my headaches were real. rj>I never said that your headaches were not real. They still were ALL in >your head so to speak. > In any case I find it interesting that the only medication that >worked for your headaches was Nardil which is an antidepressant. >Nardil is NOT used to treat headaches in the absence of a depressive >disorder. jd Most people do not realize that anitdepressants are used for headaches. Diamond Headache Clinic has discovered it. All people who have had headaches over a period of time are depressed. Do you think you could have had one for 12 years straight without being depressed? Depression can be caused by pain. rj Whoever evaluated you determined that your headaches may be >secondary to some kind of depressive disorder associated with numerous >somatic complaints including cephalgia. jd Oh? Gosh, Rich, if only I had known you before Diamond. You could have dignosed me and saved me. I'll tell Connecticut General insurance to contact you. They could have saved $97,000.00 that they spent on me. Then, I will contact Diamond and see if you can be on the list of doctors there. I certainly was tested to see if I was psychosomatic. I guess that you do not realize that Nardil is a very powerful drug. It would be easy to kill yourself (by taking other drugs or alcohol) with very little problem. The patient is evaluated and revaluated before given Nardil. Guess you are not quite as smart as you think? >>My EMG tests show I have peripheral neuropathy. Have any idea what that >>is, >>Rich? >Yep. OK, describe the pain. > There are many people who have mercury poisoning. It is not a fairy >>tale. I am on a metals list, everyone there has mercury poisoning. There [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >of >>it. He has written a book. >>You are free to believe whatever you please. >As are you. It obviously helps you to believe that you have a >condition for which you believe that you are receiving the effective >treatment to combat it. Naaw, I don't really believe that, I was just bored and thought I would try getting some new fillings. It is loads of fun, and I have load of money. I noticed you didn't mention what the dentist found yesterday. strange, I was sure you would have a diagnoses for that also. >From: kala...@NOTgte.net (Rich) >Date: Fri, 16 July 1999 11:07 PM EDT I don't know why you have PN. It could just be idiopathic. You may >never know the cause. That's true. So you think I should fold my hand and say I give up??? It may give you comfort to think that you know >so that you could then take steps to correct it but removing amalgams >due to the belief that you are mercury poisoned does NOT seem >reasonable to me. But it is your life. That is because you have fallen for the ADA lies. rj >******Have you considered the possibility that God is punishing you for not >being a good enough Christian and that you need to pray more and lead >a more Christian life*******. JDrew63929 *******Jul 13 1999, 2:00 am********* I had the last of my mercury amalgams removed today. The oldest amalgam (43 years) had a copper base, which the dentist has never seen before. It also had decayed matter (mushy) beneath the copper. This does not show on an x-ray. Perhaps this is part of the problem? At any rate I am glad it is out. Now, I will move on to get the mercury out of my body. It will take a long time. On 20 Feb 2005 19:33:16 -0800, "Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote: >>Jan wrote: >>Then when his lies are exposed, he changes the subject title and >>insults. >> >>Proving once again: >> >>Genesis 27:19-20, 24. Jacob had to lie again to cover up his first lie ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Best defense to logic is ignorance |
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