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The Lingering Legacies of ADHD
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LadyLollipop - 28 May 2005 06:12 GMT http://www.businessweek.com/print/bwdaily/dnflash/may2005/nf20050527_6288_db016. htm?chan=db&
MAY 27, 2005
NEWS ANALYSIS By Carol Marie Cropper
The Lingering Legacies of ADHD Youngsters with attention disorders run a higher risk of depression, mental illness, and drug dependence, researchers say Two new studies of girls and boys with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) indicate a dramatic increase in their risk of acquiring such afflictions as major depression, bipolar disorder, and drug addiction.
The longitudinal studies took place at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, a teaching facility for Harvard Medical School. They tracked the development of various disorders in boys ages 12 to 22, over 10 years, and in girls between 12 and 17 for for 5 years. The results of the studies were presented on May 26 at the American Psychiatric Assn. annual meeting in Atlanta.
BIPOLAR RISK. Compared with a control group, girls with ADHD showed a nineteenfold increase in the odds of experiencing a major depression by age 17. About 46% of the 123 girls with ADHD had a depressive episode, compared with only about 3% of a 112-member control group. The girls with ADHD were 15 times as likely to have developed bipolar disorder, and more than 4 times as likely to suffer from drug dependency.
Meanwhile, about 46% of the 112 boys with ADHD in a separate study experienced major depression by age 22, vs. 7% of a 105-member control group. They were about 8 times more likely to have developed bipolar disorder and twice as apt to have become dependent on drugs.
"Children with ADHD, when they reach adult shores, have a very high risk for a wide range of adverse outcomes," says Dr. Joseph Biederman, a Harvard Medical School professor and lead researcher in the studies.
GIRLS, TOO. Adult attention disorders cost the U.S. $77 billion annually, Biederman says. (See BW Online, 5/24/05, "ADHD: The $77 Billion Curse".)
In the U.S., about 5% of girls, and 10% of boys, ages 5 to 18 suffer from ADHD, Biederman says. Many observers had assumed that girls did not develop some of the problems boys did, according to Biederman. "Girls with ADHD tend to be underdiagnosed and undertreated." But, he says, people should consider ADHD a serious problem for juvenile females as well as males. It's not just a question of why "Johnny" can't sit still anymore.
mlowry3@bellsouth.net - 28 May 2005 15:38 GMT But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them.
Mark, MD
George Lagergren - 28 May 2005 16:47 GMT > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we > Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. What about treating kids with ADHD with diet modification and nutrient supplementation?
Vashti - 28 May 2005 17:15 GMT > > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should > > we Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. > > What about treating kids with ADHD with diet modification > and nutrient supplementation? Doesn't work. Most people try stuff like that before even consulting their regular GP, many spend a *lot* of money trying to find an alternative treatment. Sadly ADHD isn't a nutritional problem, if it were it would have ended back when sugar(and then food colouring and then the next food item) was blamed for kids' hyperactivity.
Vashti
mlowry3@bellsouth.net - 28 May 2005 18:49 GMT > > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we > > Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. > > What about treating kids with ADHD with diet modification and > nutrient supplementation? If it could be shown to work, I would be all for it. However, there is scant credible evidence that it does.
I use the term "credible" because, as a scientist of sorts, I require believable evidence before I will commit my reputation to a particular course of action. That might sound a little cowardly, and I have to admit it does, but I have a reputation that I want to protect: a reputation as a good doctor who practices good medicine, yet who is willing to try novel approaches *if I can be reasonably convinced that they work*.
If there is no one out there, advocating dietary modification as a treatment for ADHD, who is willing to tap into the scads of free money that NCCAM is willing to give to "alternative" researchers, I am certainly not going to take anecdotal evidence as sufficient cause to abandon a course of treatment that I already know works.
To answer the as-yet unasked question: No, I am not willing to do such a study on my own. I have a very few kids on ADHD drugs because I have a reputation as a pediatrician who is *very* hard to convince that a kid has ADHD. I do not hand out "Ritlin" to any Tom, Dick and Harriet who has a kid with a bad report card. I simply don't have enough ADHD kids to make a worthwhile study.
I *do* believe, however, that ADHD is a real diagnosis (once other causes of behavior disturbance have been ruled out) which is amazingly well-treated with many of the current medications out there.
You show me a well-designed study which concludes that dietary modification works as a treatment for ADHD, and I'll give it a good look-see, promise.
If it's Bob's theory on milk or Fred's theory on B6, I'll laugh at you.
Mark, MD
Mark Probert - 28 May 2005 21:22 GMT George Lagergren wrote:
>>But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we >>Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. > > What about treating kids with ADHD with diet modification and > nutrient supplementation? Because none of that has ever been shown to be effective. AD/HD is not a diet based disorder.
LadyLollipop - 29 May 2005 02:45 GMT > George Lagergren wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Because none of that has ever been shown to be effective. AD/HD is not a > diet based disorder. Scientists' letters to the Department of Health and Human Services Letter from CSPI to HHS Secretary Shalala
October 25, 1999
Hon. Donna Shalala, Secretary U.S. Department of Health and Human Services 200 Independence Ave. SW Room 615F Washington, DC 20201
Dear Secretary Shalala:
The Center for Science in the Public Interest has published a report, "Diet, ADHD, and Behavior", that reviews studies on the effect of diet on behavior (including ADHD) and touches on side effects of the stimulant drugs that have been used to treat behavior disorders in millions of children. I have enclosed our report and letters from doctors and scientists that urge HHS to take a variety of actions. I hope that you will give our recommendations serious consideration.
CSPI's report reviews more than 20 controlled studies of diet and behavior. Most of the studies found that food dyes and, in some cases, other additives and foods provoked symptoms of ADHD or other behavior problems in some children. In light of that evidence, HHS should inform parents, school officials, and health-care providers that some children are affected by diet and that dietary therapy should be considered as a first course of treatment. We further recommend a broad research agenda to better understand foods' effects on behavior, several regulatory measures (including more routine testing for behavioral effects of food additives and consideration of a ban on food dyes in foods and other products widely consumed by children), and educational efforts (revising literature and web sites, including a pamphlet that FDA cosponsors with a food-industry association, that deny that diet affects behavior).
Maximizing the use of non-pharmacologic treatments is particularly important because the stimulant drugs commonly used to treat ADHD have side effects, including insomnia, loss of appetite (and failure to grow), stomachache, and, possibly, Tourette's syndrome. Importantly, a 1995 study by the National Toxicology Program found that methylphenidate (Ritalin), the most commonly used drug, caused liver tumors in mice. The NTP categorized that drug as a "possible human carcinogen." When that study was published, the FDA said it would sponsor additional research, but little such research has been done. The package insert for methylphenidate notes the cancer study, but many doctors are unaware of or belittle that information, and, of course, patients or their parents never see the package insert. It is critical that a potentially carcinogenic drug that is used by a large number of children over many months or even years be well tested and found to be appropriately safe and that doctors and patients be aware of possible risks. Amphetamines, increasingly used to treat ADHD, did not cause cancer in an NTP study, but also need to be tested for long-term effects, particularly because its usage appears to be skyrocketing: Until additional safety tests are done -- we recommend several kinds of studies -- it is all the more important for HHS to urge physicians to consider alternative approaches to treating patients.
Thank you for your attention to this important issue. I look forward to your response.
Mark Probert - 30 May 2005 14:19 GMT >>George Lagergren wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>Because none of that has ever been shown to be effective. AD/HD is not a >>diet based disorder. That's nice of you to post this.
I'll repeat: AD/HD is not a diet based disorder. When properly diagnosed, dietary causes of the symptoms have already been ruled out.
> Scientists' letters to the Department of Health and Human Services > Letter from CSPI to HHS Secretary Shalala [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > Thank you for your attention to this important issue. I look forward to > your response. LadyLollipop - 28 May 2005 18:34 GMT > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we > Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. > > Mark, MD You can either chose to believe studies or not, your choice.
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MAY 27, 2005
NEWS ANALYSIS By Carol Marie Cropper
The Lingering Legacies of ADHD Youngsters with attention disorders run a higher risk of depression, mental illness, and drug dependence, researchers say Two new studies of girls and boys with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) indicate a dramatic increase in their risk of acquiring such afflictions as major depression, bipolar disorder, and drug addiction.
The longitudinal studies took place at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, a teaching facility for Harvard Medical School. They tracked the development of various disorders in boys ages 12 to 22, over 10 years, and in girls between 12 and 17 for for 5 years. The results of the studies were presented on May 26 at the American Psychiatric Assn. annual meeting in Atlanta.
BIPOLAR RISK. Compared with a control group, girls with ADHD showed a nineteenfold increase in the odds of experiencing a major depression by age 17. About 46% of the 123 girls with ADHD had a depressive episode, compared with only about 3% of a 112-member control group. The girls with ADHD were 15 times as likely to have developed bipolar disorder, and more than 4 times as likely to suffer from drug dependency.
Meanwhile, about 46% of the 112 boys with ADHD in a separate study experienced major depression by age 22, vs. 7% of a 105-member control group. They were about 8 times more likely to have developed bipolar disorder and twice as apt to have become dependent on drugs.
"Children with ADHD, when they reach adult shores, have a very high risk for a wide range of adverse outcomes," says Dr. Joseph Biederman, a Harvard Medical School professor and lead researcher in the studies.
GIRLS, TOO. Adult attention disorders cost the U.S. $77 billion annually, Biederman says. (See BW Online, 5/24/05, "ADHD: The $77 Billion Curse".)
In the U.S., about 5% of girls, and 10% of boys, ages 5 to 18 suffer from ADHD, Biederman says. Many observers had assumed that girls did not develop some of the problems boys did, according to Biederman. "Girls with ADHD tend to be underdiagnosed and undertreated." But, he says, people should consider ADHD a serious problem for juvenile females as well as males. It's not just a question of why "Johnny" can't sit still anymore.
mlowry3@bellsouth.net - 29 May 2005 01:30 GMT > > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we > > Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. > > > > Mark, MD > > > You can either chose to believe studies or not, your choice. <snip>
Do you mean those studies which show that *untreated* ADHD poses a risk for further problems in later life, while *treated* ADHD is less of a risk?
Heck, yes! I have read those studies, and if you agree, I applaud you.
But if you disagree because the only acceptable psychoactive meds are Elavil and Neurontin, and all others are "drugs", well, then I suppose I'll have to revert to my already-well-supported opinion that you are a stupid git.
Mark, MD
LadyLollipop - 29 May 2005 02:48 GMT >> > But for Heaven's sake, we shouldn't treat kids with ADHD, should we >> > Jan? Why...that would amount to "drugging" them. >> > >> > Mark, MD >> > >> You can either chose to believe studies or not, your choice. LadyLollipop May 28, 1:12 am show options
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MAY 27, 2005
NEWS ANALYSIS By Carol Marie Cropper
The Lingering Legacies of ADHD Youngsters with attention disorders run a higher risk of depression, mental illness, and drug dependence, researchers say Two new studies of girls and boys with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) indicate a dramatic increase in their risk of acquiring such afflictions as major depression, bipolar disorder, and drug addiction.
The longitudinal studies took place at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, a teaching facility for Harvard Medical School. They tracked the development of various disorders in boys ages 12 to 22, over 10 years, and in girls between 12 and 17 for for 5 years. The results of the studies were presented on May 26 at the American Psychiatric Assn. annual meeting in Atlanta.
BIPOLAR RISK. Compared with a control group, girls with ADHD showed a nineteenfold increase in the odds of experiencing a major depression by age 17. About 46% of the 123 girls with ADHD had a depressive episode, compared with only about 3% of a 112-member control group. The girls with ADHD were 15 times as likely to have developed bipolar disorder, and more than 4 times as likely to suffer from drug dependency.
Meanwhile, about 46% of the 112 boys with ADHD in a separate study experienced major depression by age 22, vs. 7% of a 105-member control group. They were about 8 times more likely to have developed bipolar disorder and twice as apt to have become dependent on drugs.
"Children with ADHD, when they reach adult shores, have a very high risk for a wide range of adverse outcomes," says Dr. Joseph Biederman, a Harvard Medical School professor and lead researcher in the studies.
GIRLS, TOO. Adult attention disorders cost the U.S. $77 billion annually, Biederman says. (See BW Online, 5/24/05, "ADHD: The $77 Billion Curse".)
In the U.S., about 5% of girls, and 10% of boys, ages 5 to 18 suffer from ADHD, Biederman says. Many observers had assumed that girls did not develop some of the problems boys did, according to Biederman. "Girls with ADHD tend to be underdiagnosed and undertreated." But, he says, people should consider ADHD a serious problem for juvenile females as well as males. It's not just a question of why "Johnny" can't sit still anymore.
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