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DOCTORS JOIN ATTACK ON FISH MEDICINE

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 27 May 2005 20:32 GMT
Doctors join attack on fish medicine

The Times of India
Friday, May 27, 2005

Hyderabad - The asthma fish medicine mela, for decades an
annual fixture of the Hyderabadi summer, is coming under
attack from a coalition of rationalists, scientists and
allopathy doctors. On Thursday, almost a fortnight before
this year's chapter, the Indian Medical Association (IMA)
has entered the fray and demanded a ban on the medicine,
which is shoved into the mouth of a live fish and
administered to asthma patients.

Lakhs of people come to Hyderabad on Mrigasira Karte day
(this year, June 8) in the belief that the medicine,
which the Bathini Goud brothers claim is a family secret
of 147 years, is a wonder cure for asthma.

The IMA said there is no evidence that the medication has
ever given total relief to any asthma patient. In fact,
the swallowing of a live fish could cause contamination
leading to respiratory infections, it said.

IMA secretary (Charminar branch) and chief surgical
gastroenterologist Dr C L Venkata Rao said the doctor's
body had conducted tests on 150 patients who had taken
the fish medicine last year, and found that none of them
was cured of asthma. Six patients in fact developed
throat infections and three others developed respiratory
complications due to the growth of staphylococcus
bacteria in the respiratory tract, he said. Dr Venkata
Rao questioned the huge amount of money and material
spent by the government each year in supplying lakhs of
murrel fingerlings to patients and making other
arrangements for the mela. "A government headed by a
medical practitioner ( Dr Y S Rajasekhara Reddy) ought to
know better," he said.

The IMA member pointed out that the Indian Institute of
Chemical Technology (IICT) had also tested the fish
medicine last year and found it bereft of any property to
cure asthma.

Other doctors agreed with Dr Venkata Rao's contention. Dr
C Eashwar Prasad, assistant professor at the AP Chest
Hospital, said throat and respiratory infections are
likely to occur when the medicine is administered in this
manner. Interventional pulmonologist Dr A Jayachandra
said that by dipping their fingers into each patient's
throat, "the Bathini brothers only spread infection."

Dr B Shyam Sunder Raj, chief pulmonologist of a super-
speciality hospital, asked why murrel fish are used to
administer the medicine when the Bathini brothers have
themselves admitted that jaggery could be used with the
same efficacy.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1123680.cms

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harikoomir@inderoco.com - 27 May 2005 20:53 GMT
Now if only the medical authorities would deal with this:

   
  Heavy metal content of Ayurvedic herbal medicine products

  Robert B Saper, MD MPH1, Stephanos N Kales, MD, MPH2, Janet Paquin,
  PhD^3, David M Eisenberg, MD^4, Roger B Davis, ScD^5, and Russell S
  Phillips, MD^5. (1) Department of Family Medicine, Boston University
  School of Medicine, One Boston Medical Center Place, Dowling 5 South,
  Boston, MA 02118, 617 414 6276, robert.saper@bmc.org, (2) Occupational
  and Environmental Health Center, Cambridge Hospital, 1493 Cambridge
  Street, Cambridge, MA 02139, (3) Northeast Regional EPA Laboratory,
  Technology Drive, North Chelmsford, MA 01863, (4) Division for
  Research and Education in Complementary and Integrative Medical
  Therapies, Harvard Medical School, 401 Landmark Drive, Suite 22a West,
  Boston, MA 02215, (5) Division of General Medicine and Primary Care,
  Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, 330 Brookline Avenue, Boston, MA
  02215

  BACKGROUND: Case reports of individuals taking Ayurvedic herbal
  medicine products (HMPs) suggest that they may contain lead, mercury,
  and/or arsenic. We analyzed the heavy metal content of Ayurvedic HMPs
  manufactured in India and Pakistan, available in South Asian grocery
  stores in the Boston area, and intended for oral use. METHODS: We
  searched online yellow pages, business directories, and newspapers to
  identify grocery stores selling products from South Asia which were <
  20 miles from Boston City Hall. We visited each store, purchased each
  unique Ayurvedic HMP, and recorded labeling information. We analyzed
  each HMP for lead, mercury, and arsenic using X-ray fluorescence. For
  HMPs containing heavy metals, estimated ranges of daily heavy metal
  intake for adults and children were calculated using manufacturers
  dosage recommendations and compared to EPA, ATSDR, and/or USP
  allowable standards. RESULTS: Seventy HMPs from 30 stores were
  identified and purchased. Fourteen of the 70 (20%, 95% C.I. 11%-31%)
  contained measurable levels of heavy metals: lead (n=13, median
  concentration 40 mcg/g, range 5-37,000), mercury (n=6, median
  concentration 20,225 mcg/g, range 28-104,000), and/or arsenic (n=6,
  median concentration 430 mcg/g, range 37-8,130). If taken as
  recommended, each of these 14 HMPs may result in heavy metal intakes
  above published allowable standards. CONCLUSION: One of five Ayurvedic
  HMPs produced in South Asia and available in Boston Indian groceries
  contains potentially harmful levels of lead, mercury, and/or arsenic.
  Ayurvedic medicine users may be at risk for heavy metal toxicity.
  Stricter regulation of Ayurvedic herbal product imports is needed.

  Learning Objectives:
  At the conclusion of this session the participant will be able to:
    * Describe the general characteristics of Ayurvedic herbal medicine
      products (HMPs) produced in South Asia and available in Boston
      area retail stores.
    * Define the prevalence of Ayurvedic herbal medicine products in
      this sample containing lead, mercury, and arsenic.
    * Compare the lead, mercury, and arsenic intake which may occur if
      these products are taken as recommended to published allowable
      standards.

  Keywords: Herbal Medicine, Lead

  Presenting author's disclosure statement:
  I do not have any significant financial interest/arrangement or
  affiliation with any organization/institution whose products or
  services are being discussed in this session.

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     Alternative and Complementary Health Practices Around the World

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harmony - 27 May 2005 22:24 GMT
if you are sick, an alternative worth considering is to get the right manni
figured by a good jyotish.
alternately, aushadh, the ayurvedic medicine under care of a good
practitioner will set you right.

> Doctors join attack on fish medicine
Dr. Jai Maharaj - 27 May 2005 23:11 GMT
Traditional Hindu jyotishis are physicians -- Ayurvedic
and modern -- and some also learn the profession or trade
of our principal clients.

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Om Shanti

> if you are sick, an alternative worth considering is to get the
> right manni figured by a good jyotish.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> > Doctors join attack on fish medicine
dcholiman@ev1.net - 28 May 2005 10:43 GMT
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The above is a typical Indian bureaucratic
runaround.  All you needed
to say was that the IMA is gaining in its
fight against the practise of swallowing
live fish.  As for Jesus making a revolutionary
type statement about separating father and son,
mother and daughter,  all prophetic religions
have contradictions in their doctrines. The
Hindus especially. The one religion that asks
us to look into ourselves before we even think
of or dream about judgement of others is the
religion of Lord Buddha. Well, Buddha was also
a Hindu.  What did he have to say about
the fish cure ?
David H
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