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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / May 2005My *Explanation* of *organized* medicine
NO where at any time did *I* use the word *definition* That was Rich Shewmaker's little dirty trick. Here is what I said: Rich wrote: > No, not memory problems. You have NEVER posted a formal definition of > "*organized medicine*". Please do so. I wrote: Drop the word formal. I did post a my explanation of *organized* medicine, you were right there in the thread. LL/Jan I think he's just asking if you have a particular definition of what qualifies as "organized medicine". I'm not sure he's accusing you of having said that you *do* have one; he's asking you to say whether you have one, and if so, what that definition is. Is "organized medicine" anyone who doesn't believe in amalgam disease? Is it anyone who thinks immunizations are a good idea? Does it include those who eschew use of the Zapper to "Cure All Diseases" (and AIDS and all cancers)? I know you've been goaded on this point, but I think Rich's request is clear: Do you have a particular definition of what falls within the realm of "organized medicine" and what doesn't? Mark, MD >I think he's just asking if you have a particular definition of what > qualifies as "organized medicine". I'm not sure he's accusing you of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Mark, MD >I think he's just asking if you have a particular definition of what > qualifies as "organized medicine". I'm not sure he's accusing you of > having said that you *do* have one; he's asking you to say whether you > have one, and if so, what that definition is. Aww, *ain't* dat sweet.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, No, he started by asking what is organized medicine? I told him, I had posted that previously, and he was in the thread. He couldn't find it, using the simplest words. He then changed it to *definition*. He came back to this ng, immediately posting his digs, then he privately e-mailed me. All the gang including you joined in, as usual. I'm not falling for your little tricks. LL/Jan >>I think he's just asking if you have a particular definition of what >> qualifies as "organized medicine". I'm not sure he's accusing you of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > LL/Jan Asking you for a definition is not a little trick. Your "explanation" does not address the MEANING of the term, and that is what I still want to know. I already knew that whatever "*organized medicine*" is, you consider to be "evil", and that you include certain participants in this newsgroup to be part of it, and that you exclude certain doctors that you admire God-bless-them. What I do not know is precisely what you mean by the term itself. You evaded posting your "explanation" for several days because you knew that it is not a definition and that I would call you on it. Where's that definition, Jan? --Rich >>I think he's just asking if you have a particular definition of what >> qualifies as "organized medicine". I'm not sure he's accusing you of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > He couldn't find it, using the simplest words. I found "it" immediately. I suspected that you were thinking that your target post defined "*organized medicine*", but it was clear to me that it does not. > He then changed it to *definition*. So I clarified what I was asking for. This is only fair, and gave you the opportunity to back off from your assertion that "I already posted it", and simply write a definition. Instead, you set your stubborn little jaw and embarked on a protracted game of evasion and name-calling. > He came back to this ng, immediately posting his digs, then he privately > e-mailed me. I did not intentionally e-mail you (as if that were a major crime). It was an accident, and I appologized. > All the gang including you joined in, as usual. The "gang" watched your antics in silence for days, only joining in after you surrendered in your "get lost" post. > I'm not falling for your little tricks. Asking someone to define her terms is not a "little trick". It is fundamental to civilized discussion. --Rich > > I'm not falling for your little tricks. > > Asking someone to define her terms is not a "little trick". > It is fundamental to civilized discussion. Sure, it's a trick. You're just trying to show she is neither consistent nor rational, accusing anybody of anything when she feels her cherished beliefs are threatened. Well, she ain't fallin' for that one. Been there, done that. Won't happen again. Better luck nailing Jello to a tree. >> > I'm not falling for your little tricks. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Well, she ain't fallin' for that one. Been there, done that. > Won't happen again. Better luck nailing Jello to a tree. I haven't had to make a retraction. You have. LL/Jan >>> > I'm not falling for your little tricks. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I haven't had to make a retraction. You haven't made a definition, either. --Rich > I haven't had to make a retraction. > > You have. > > LL/Jan I didn't lie. You do, often and with no regard for the facts. To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com Jan wrote: > >From: Mark Thorson nos...@sonic.net > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused anyone of > any such thing. > > So do prove your claim Mark!!!!! > > You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!! ----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills ----- Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly comes from paid shill Mark Probert. Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife. Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife. Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people. > I haven't had to make a retraction. > > You have. > > LL/Jan I didn't lie. You do because you do not concern yourself with being honesty. Here's another example: Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com I have stated nothing about the Catholic faith. ----- statements about Catholics from Jan's earlier postings ----- Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922214509.08241.00000819%40mb-m10.aol.com Absolutley no bigotry, no act, nor any of the desperate accusations. Eric, do show us where we are instructed to pray to saints. Where did this belief come from? It is a man made rule and the work of Satan, placing saints before Jesus Christ. Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922212212.08241.00000817%40mb-m10.aol.com The truth that praying to saints doesn't come from God, is in not way a bigot, nor prejudice. It is simply the truth. Jan Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan. Jan Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040525010815.13455.00001025%40mb-m06.aol.com I personally think the Catholics have done many things wrong. Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.aol.com There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to ANYONE OTHER THAN GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON. Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan. Jan Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.aol.com All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct man to pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ. Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan. Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew: http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com I have never mention Catholics. Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan. Jan |
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