"Rich" <jos...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> "Rich" <jos...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> Jeffs suggestion that a referrence to peer-reviewed
>>> research is more convincing
> This is what peer review is really all about. If you can suggest a process
> that would be more fair and accurate for selecting manuscripts and grant
> proposals, please do.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review
> --Rich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_fraud
Science is still a very strongly career-driven discipline.
Suppression/non-publication of data
A related issue concerns the deliberate suppression, failure to publish, or
selective release of the findings of scientific studies. Such cases may not
be strictly definable as scientific misconduct as the deliberate
falsification of results is not present. However, in such cases the intent
may nevertheless be to deliberately deceive. Studies may be suppressed or
remain unpublished because the findings are perceived to undermine the
commercial, political or other interests of the sponsoring agent or because
they fail to support the ideological goals of the researcher
http://www.aaup.org/publications/Academe/2002/02JF/02jfgoo.htm
Peer review and the acceptance of new scientific ideas
(http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/PDF/peerReview.pdf) (Warning: 469 kB
PDF)
"Rich" jos...@hawaii.rr.com
Yes, scientific fraud does sometimes happen
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LL/Jan
Rich - 18 May 2005 06:32 GMT
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> LL/Jan
Children are sometime abused at day care centers.
--Rich
LadyLollipop - 18 May 2005 06:36 GMT
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Rich - 18 May 2005 08:35 GMT
>>> <Snip off topicdiversion stupid skeptic tricks>
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>>> LL/Jan
Pardon me. I had forgotten that, being too stupid to understand analogy, you
interpret the technique as "stupid skeptic tricks". I'll try to express
myself in concrete terms that a third-grader could understand.
--Rich
LadyLollipop - 18 May 2005 09:01 GMT
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>>>> LL/Jan
Rich - 18 May 2005 10:09 GMT
>>>>> <Snip off topicd iversion stupid skeptic tricks and insults>
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>>>>> LL/Jan
What you are doing is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears
and yelling "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA". You have LOST the argument through
your refusal to participate. No more.
--Rich