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Testing BEFORE sex. Postsex STD tests.

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thezak - 23 Jun 2009 09:55 GMT
Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?

Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available.
Martin - 23 Jun 2009 13:00 GMT
>Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
>do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?
>
>Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening...

Looks like you've answered your own question again.

I'm still waiting for you to share your own test results with us.
Presumably you follow the advice you dish out: regular testing and
sharing of results?

>Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available.

We all know there will never be a cure for HIV.  Boffins in white
coats can't even find the virus.  They gave up looking for it a
quarter of a century ago!
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John D Salt - 23 Jun 2009 18:25 GMT
Martin <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in news:1034.1245762052.20090623@hiv-
poz.co.uk:

>>Post sex STD tests are a strategy

Never mind the tests, I want to know more about this "post sex".  I imagine
that a hetero version of it would require both mail and femail, but beyond
that my imagination is bamboozled in its entirety as to what "post sex"
might involve.  Or do you mean "post" in the sense of a stanchion or
upright spar?  In which case I and my imagination remain firmly in our
former state of embafflement, understanding as we do the idea of sex with
Poles, or sex with proles, but not sex with poles, even on Mayday.

By the way, I understand that the Punctuation Police are being especially
severe about missed-out hyphens this month.

All the best,

John.
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thezak - 24 Jun 2009 03:19 GMT
> Martin <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote innews:1034.1245762052.20090623@hiv-
> poz.co.uk:
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> picnic?
> -- Bill Bailey

Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?

Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
http://notb4weknow.blogspot.com
thezak - 25 Jun 2009 01:50 GMT
> Martin <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote innews:1034.1245762052.20090623@hiv-
> poz.co.uk:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> picnic?
> -- Bill Bailey

    Post sex STD tests are a strategy only if STD tests cure an STD.

    Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex.  Of
course,
    post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
treated, and
    the sooner the better.  But you can only treat if you've been
tested and
    know what you just acquired.
Bryce Utting - 25 Jun 2009 09:35 GMT
> Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex.  Of
> course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
> treated, and the sooner the better.  But you can only treat if
> you've been tested and know what you just acquired.

against my better judgement, I find myself asking: so, what *have* you
just acquired, Don?

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thezak - 25 Jun 2009 17:44 GMT
> > Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex.  Of
> > course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>   it's an re-implementation of the window system!
>       -- Alice's AI Lab

    My first response: that person is feeling quilty for having
broken a safer sex rule. You need to get tested immediately. Let me
know your results. My test results are negative for all tests.
Otto Bahn - 25 Jun 2009 18:06 GMT
>> Otherwise it makes more sense to have STD tests before sex.  Of
>> course, post sex testing isn't completely useless--some STDs can be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> against my better judgement, I find myself asking: so, what *have* you
> just acquired, Don?

Do you really want to know what goes on the stalls of the
Boston Public Library?

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Piet de Arcilla - 24 Jun 2009 05:41 GMT
> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV.  Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus.  They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!

Is a Boffin like a Puffin?
Otto Bahn - 24 Jun 2009 15:39 GMT
> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV. Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus. They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!
<
<Is a Boffin like a Puffin?

I'll be boffin' Martha's pufffins.

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thezak - 25 Jun 2009 09:55 GMT
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available.

> We all know there will never be a cure for HIV.  Boffins in white
> coats can't even find the virus.  They gave up looking for it a
> quarter of a century ago!

  http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk
> 5,275 days and counting...

    Here are some images of a virus that can't even be found,
    and which will certainly never be cured
    http://www.google.com/search?q=hiv+image

Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?

Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
http://notb4weknow.blogspot.com
Martin - 01 Jul 2009 01:25 GMT
>>We all know there will never be a cure for HIV.  Boffins in white
>>coats can't even find the virus.  They gave up looking for it a
>>quarter of a century ago!

>     Here are some images of a virus that can't even be found,
>     and which will certainly never be cured
>     http://www.google.com/search?q=hiv+image

Amusingly most of those images are little more than cartoons. I've
even published one of my own here:
<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/hiv_picture/>.  And, yes, that really is my
blood.

>Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
>do? Give up sex? Have less sex?

I think you've let the cat out the bag.  You're another faggot and
nigger hater.
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Daisy Ventana - 24 Jun 2009 05:09 GMT
thezak wrote in soc.bi:
> Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening

You say "a way to keep some sex from happening" as if you
think -that- is some kind of a desirable objective?

Whatever you're promoting, that's not a sales pitch that's
likely to get very far on this newsgroup! (Besides, as far
as I know, sex is usually something that people do on purpose,
so phrasing your comments as if sex is something that just
"happens" unless specific efforts are made to keep it from
happening is likely to be viewed as a disrespectful denial
of agency by some of your readers.)

-dazy v
thezak - 24 Jun 2009 19:56 GMT
> thezak wrote in soc.bi:
>
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>
> -dazy v

    Not eating too much is a way to keep overweight from happening.
    Some people manage to do that even if they don't have to work
    hard to get hungry.  It happens naturally, without a single
thought
    that you want to get hungry.

    If you never eat again you will die.  If you never have sex again
you
    will not die.  I'm wondering which is the stronger impulse?

Post sex STD tests are a strategy--but what do they cause a person to
do? Give up sex? Have less sex? Have more sex in order to "get even"?

Testing before sex is a way to keep some sex from happening, and,
consequently, prevent an STD. Post sex STD tests don't do that. Pre
sex STD tests will save some lives--some people will back out of the
possibility of sex with that partner. Others may be way more cautious.
Still others might wait for non-HIV STDs to be cured, if available
http://notb4weknow.blogspot.com
Orlando Enrique Fiol - 01 Jul 2009 07:27 GMT
dazy.v@noneofyour.biz wrote:
>You say "a way to keep some sex from happening" as if you
>think -that- is some kind of a desirable objective?

Sex leading to disease seems like an undesirable objective to me.

>Whatever you're promoting, that's not a sales pitch that's
>likely to get very far on this newsgroup! (Besides, as far
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>happening is likely to be viewed as a disrespectful denial
>of agency by some of your readers.)

Plenty of people have sex without thinking through its ramifications on many
levels including physical safety, pregnancy and emotions. Many people simply
opt to try and get sexual things going first and ask questions later.

Orlando
Mark Edwards - 01 Jul 2009 17:42 GMT
>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
> World Domination later.

IFYPFY.

Mark Edwards
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Matthew L. Martin - 01 Jul 2009 17:50 GMT
>> Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> World Domination later.

Damn! That's what I've been doing wrong! No wonder I haven't managed
world domination yet.

Matthew

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Otto Bahn - 01 Jul 2009 18:05 GMT
>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> Whirled Dominatrix later.
>
> IFYPFY.

IFYIFYPFY

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Rob Wynne - 01 Jul 2009 19:13 GMT
In alt.polyamory Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>> World Domination later.
>
> IFYPFY.

At a guess:  "I find your post funny, ya?"

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barbara@bookpro.com - 01 Jul 2009 19:19 GMT
>In alt.polyamory Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>At a guess:  "I find your post funny, ya?"

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Otto Bahn - 01 Jul 2009 19:49 GMT
>>>Many people simply opt to try and get sexual things going first and
>>> World Domination later.
>>
>> IFYPFY.
>
> At a guess:  "I find your post funny, ya?"

It's a phonetic abbreviation for "iffy piffy".

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