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Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
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JOHN - 17 Dec 2008 20:38 GMT Press Release
December 9, 2008
Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
[see: [2008 Dec] Letter To: Bruce Alberts, Editor in Chief, Science]
SAN FRANCISCO (Rethinking AIDS) Dec. 9, 2008-The international nonprofit scientific organization Rethinking AIDS gave its full support today to 37 senior researchers, medical doctors and legal professionals who are requesting that the medical journal Science withdraw four seminal papers on HIV authored by Dr. Robert Gallo-papers widely touted as proof that HIV is the "probable cause of AIDS." An online posting of the letter can be found here.
"With new findings that undermine the scientific integrity and veracity of Gallo's four papers, the entire basis of the theory that HIV causes AIDS may now be questioned," says Rethinking AIDS president David Crowe.
The letter to the journal comes at a time when the microbiology world is abuzz about Gallo's omission from the 2008 Nobel Prize in medicine for the discovery of HIV, contrary to an international agreement that the two teams should share credit. French scientists Drs. Luc Montagnier and Francoise Barré-Sinoussi are instead to be given the award, a decision that also implicitly questions the scientific integrity of Gallo's claim of the discovery. Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did not purify any virus.
The four papers were originally published on May 4, 1984, a few days after a press conference by Gallo announcing he had discovered the "probable cause of AIDS." Now, a British investigative journalist has shown that Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents that make false claims about the results of his lab work and research experiments. The letter to Science sent by the 37 experts on Monday, Dec. 1, 2008, includes a copy of Gallo's handwritten changes to the article, a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo's samples did not contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could not be purified directly from human materials.
The investigative conclusion prompting the letter to Science was made by journalist Janine Roberts, author of Fear of the Invisible, a book that examines the origin of several disease theories. "I was shocked when I read the original draft of the key scientific paper now widely cited as proving HIV causes AIDS," says Roberts. "Gallo's handwritten last-minute changes had reversed what the scientists in his lab had originally concluded. This demonstrates a stunning disregard for the scientific process and a very disturbing breach of public trust."
It is clear that the seminal research published on HIV contained unjustified claims and alterations. In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was impossible to repeat and verify it.
In the early 1990s, several highly critical reports on the research underlying Gallo's papers were produced as a result of governmental inquiries working under the supervision of scientists nominated by the National Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Medicine. The Office of Research Integrity (ORI) of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services concluded that the lead paper of the four was "fraught with false and erroneous statements" and that the "ORI believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records . . . reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to retrace the important steps taken." Further, a Congressional Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations produced a staff report on the papers, containing scathing criticisms of their integrity.
Rethinking AIDS - an international group of more than 2,600 scientists, doctors, journalists, health advocates and others - offers several eminent medical and scientific experts to comment on this and other AIDS issues currently in the news:
Etienne de Harven, M.D.*
Professor Emeritus, University of Toronto
Saint Cézaire, France
Member and professor in cell biology, Sloan Kettering Institute, New York, 1956-1981. Isolated and obtained the first electron microscopic studies of the murine Friend leukemia virus, and retroviral budding. Frequent critic of the "isolation" of HIV, and past president of Rethinking AIDS. Dr. de Harven can comment on the science of retrovirus isolation.
Janine Roberts
Investigative Reporter
Bristol, U.K.
jan@fearoftheinvisible.com
Author, Fear of the Invisible, a recent book exposing the fraud in the drafting of one of the original 1984 Science articles by Robert Gallo.
Web site: www.fearoftheinvisible.com
Media Contacts:
David Crowe*
President, Rethinking AIDS
Calgary, Alberta, Canada (Mountain time zone)
1-403-289-6609 (office)
1-403-861-2225 (mobile)
david.crowe@aras.ab.ca
Elizabeth Ely
Public Relations Chairperson
Rethinking AIDS
Brooklyn, N.Y., U.S. (Eastern time zone)
1-718-704-9672 (mobile)
publicrelations@rethinkingaids.com
*Rethinking AIDS board member.
Rethinking AIDS: The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis ("RA" or "the Group") was formed in 1991 to express the concerns of a growing number of renowned scientists and medical doctors about HIV research and the resulting human rights abuses. In 1995, by a letter published in Science, the Group called for a thorough reappraisal of the existing evidence for and against the HIV/AIDS hypothesis and recommended that critical epidemiological studies be undertaken.
Among RA's founders and key members are University of Toronto professor emeritus and former cancer researcher Dr. Etienne de Harven; Harvard microbiologist Dr. Charles Thomas; 1993 Nobel laureate for chemistry Dr. Kary Mullis; Nature/Biotechnology co-founder Dr. Harvey Bialy; University of California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg and the late Yale mathematician Dr. Serge Lang, both members of the National Academy of Sciences; physicist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos of the Royal Perth Hospital in Australia; and Glasgow University professor emeritus of public health and World Health Organization consultant Dr. Gordon Stewart.
Citizen Jimserac - 18 Dec 2008 00:27 GMT > Press Release > [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > in Australia; and Glasgow University professor emeritus of public health and > World Health Organization consultant Dr. Gordon Stewart. Wow!! BLOCKBUSTER POSTING -> Even Dr. Cary Mullis, the inventor of PCR is in on this?!!!
That does NOT mean that I agree with any of it, but I will read it with great interest.
Thanks for posting!
Citizen Jimserac
drceephd@insightbb.com - 18 Dec 2008 21:20 GMT > > Press Release > [quoted text clipped - 150 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Uhh, Citizen, I think you will find that Mullis' name is Kary with a K.
Secondly, how many times must you be told something before you can open your mind and accept it?
Again, go to Gary Null. Google Video. "Deconstructing the myth of AIDS."
The germ theory of disease is false. Bacteria are not here lying in wait to make you sick. A virus is an excuse for the doc that he has no bacteria to blame your illness upon. The auto-immune disease is an admission of inability and ignorance. AIDS is a hoax. Bird flu is a joke.
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
Citizen Jimserac - 18 Dec 2008 22:10 GMT On Dec 18, 4:20 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> On Dec 17, 7:27 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] > Uhh, Citizen, I think you will find that Mullis' name is Kary with a > K. Look on the bright side, at least I didn't get it backwards like I did with Dr. Rustum Roy.
> Secondly, how many times must you be told something before you can > open your mind and accept it? You'll find I'm a pretty stubborn Android.
> Again, go to Gary Null. Google Video. "Deconstructing the myth of > AIDS."
> The germ theory of disease is false. > Bacteria are not here lying in wait to make you sick. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > DrCee > You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. You'll need quite a bit more details than those simple assertions to convince me, but what I do have, unlike others around here, is an open mind.
Citizen Jimserac
drceephd@insightbb.com - 20 Dec 2008 00:50 GMT > On Dec 18, 4:20 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] > > - Show quoted text - What I am giving you is the distillation, the summary, the absolute scientific and medical truth. Sorry, but, I cannot confer the data of tens of years of eductaion and more decades of study and reflection into one or two sentences.
Keeping an open mind is great. Just fill it with the truth.
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
D. C. Sessions - 21 Dec 2008 14:30 GMT > What I am giving you is the distillation, the summary, the absolute > scientific and medical truth. Sorry, but, I cannot confer the data of > tens of years of eductaion and more decades of study and reflection > into one or two sentences. Translation: "trust me."
| The brighter the stupid burns, the more | | chance that someone will see the light. | +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+
Mark Probert - 21 Dec 2008 18:51 GMT On Dec 19, 7:50 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> > On Dec 18, 4:20 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 188 lines] > What I am giving you is the distillation, the summary, the absolute > scientific and medical truth. At a 100C distillation, it is devoid of any truth.
Sorry, but, I cannot confer the data of
> tens of years of eductaion and more decades of study and reflection > into one or two sentences. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text - aidsandbehavior@yahoo.com - 24 Dec 2008 19:28 GMT > On Dec 19, 7:50 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 208 lines] > > - Show quoted text - There is nothing wrong with alternative/complementary medicine. Let’s not confuse alternative medicine with denialism. DrCee commenting here sounds like a true denialist….saying…
The AIDS "retro-virus" has never been isolated. The AIDS test is a contrived joke. Depending upon where you live determines whether or not you will be pronounced with AIDS. The AIDS diagnosis varies from nation to nation. The AIDS test in not reproducable. The test is totally unscientific.
I do not know what the medicine is that DrCee trusts if it is not based on science…Sounds like Gary Null or Matthias Rath…see www.quackwatch.com for more info.
These AIDS denialists, like other deniers, are confusing people who rely on the internet for information. But unlike Holocaust and 9/11 deniers, AIDS denialists have a hand in killing people. We saw that with the recent work coming out of Harvard showing that AIDS denialism killed over 350,000 South Africans. Women have been influenced by the Duesbergians to avoid HIV treatments and subsequently infect their own babies at birth. This is just one of the real tragedies of denialism.
For more information on AIDS denialism you might check out my new book Denying AIDS: Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, and Human Tragedy. All royalties are being donated to buy HIV treatments in Africa. You can find out more on denialism at my blog Denying AIDS and other oddities http://denyingaids.blogspot.com
Seth Kalichman
Andrew Heenan - 25 Dec 2008 08:46 GMT On Dec 21, 1:51 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 19, 7:50 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > > On Dec 18, 5:10 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 18, 4:20 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > > > > On Dec 17, 7:27 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 17, 3:38 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: It's Christmas already - take off the tin foil hat for day. Treat yourself.
*plonk*
Kevysmom - 19 Dec 2008 04:41 GMT Dr.Cee,
You don't believe the theory about AIDS coming from chimpanzees in the Congo? I like Gary Null, But even he can make a mistake.
I agree with you about the avian flu, Rumsfeld sure made his millions from that hoax!
Please take the time to watch these videos.
THE ORIGIN OF AIDS pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml7q6iMwqLY&feature=channel_page
drceephd@insightbb.com - 20 Dec 2008 01:05 GMT > Dr.Cee, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml7q6iMwqLY&feature=channel_page LOL. I have watched all this propaganda and every piece that I can find related to AIDS being derived from monkeys in Africa. What a joke.
Gary can make a mistake, but will all the thousands of scientists who agree with Gary make the same mistake considering that their careers, their grants, and their reputations will be forfiet?
I will trust in science, not medicine.
The AIDS "retro-virus" has never been isolated. The AIDS test is a contrived joke. Depending upon where you live determines whether or not you will be pronounced with AIDS. The AIDS diagnosis varies from nation to nation. The AIDS test in not reproducable. The test is totally unscientific.
The science is in. AIDS is a hoax. A profitable hoax. A beneficial hoax if you wish to kill millions of people, but still a scientific and medical hoax.
Next you will have to convince me that mercury in my food, my water, or in the air is terribly toxic, but...mercury injected into me via a hypodermic is not toxic but perhaps even...beneficial.
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
Mark Probert - 19 Dec 2008 01:58 GMT > California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg Duesberg is a know-nothing AIDS denialist. Years ago I attended a seminar with a friend who is a surgical oncologist. Duesberg had several of his patients who were "cured." My friend interrupted him and pointed out that all of these patients had obvious Kaposi Sarcoma lesions on their arms and face. They all looked like concentration camp survivors.
Duesberg was outraged and demanded that we leave. Since it was a public forum in a public arena, we stayed, and refuted whatever he said.
He is a liar and kills people with his lies.
Peter Bowditch - 19 Dec 2008 02:34 GMT >> California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >He is a liar and kills people with his lies. I rank AIDS deniers just below anti-vaccination liars on the scale of evil. It is never a surprise when the groups overlap.
Why do these people have this need to cause the deaths of other people?
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Citizen Jimserac - 19 Dec 2008 12:11 GMT > >> California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au > To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com Perhaps at the level of an Homeopathy nitwit who thinks he's refuted all of Homeopathy after reading a few books.
Citizen Jimserac
Mark Probert - 19 Dec 2008 13:35 GMT > > >> California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Perhaps at the level of an Homeopathy nitwit who thinks > he's refuted all of Homeopathy after reading a few books. Agreed. All one has to do is read "High School Chemistry For Dummies" to know that homeoquackery is a fraud.
Just one book.
Peter Bowditch - 19 Dec 2008 22:43 GMT >> >> California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> --
>Perhaps at the level of an Homeopathy nitwit who thinks >he's refuted all of Homeopathy after reading a few books. What is the homeopathic treatment for AIDS?
Which books have you read?
>Citizen Jimserac
 Signature Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
George Conklin - 20 Dec 2008 00:36 GMT > >> >> California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > What is the homeopathic treatment for AIDS? PRAYER.
Kevysmom - 19 Dec 2008 04:51 GMT > > California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > He is a liar and kills people with his lies. Wow, how awful!!!! Just think Bayer Corporation was selling AIDS tainted blood and is responsible for killing thousands of innocent people!
drceephd@insightbb.com - 20 Dec 2008 00:51 GMT > > California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > He is a liar and kills people with his lies. This is about as bogus as it gets. Duesberg is a scientist and a researcher. He does not treat patients.
DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
D. C. Sessions - 21 Dec 2008 14:29 GMT >> > California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > This is about as bogus as it gets. Duesberg is a scientist and a > researcher. He does not treat patients. Presuming that this is supposed to be a refutation, you appear to be saying that anyone who "is a scientist and a researcher" cannot lie, and/or that the only way to kill people with a lie is to directly treat patients.
Obvious historical counterexamples left as an exercise for the reader.
| The brighter the stupid burns, the more | | chance that someone will see the light. | +- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> -+
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