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Martin - 26 Apr 2008 15:20 GMT
The overt racism of the HIV movement never fails to amaze me.  Their
latest wheeze is to, effectively, pay people in Africa *not* to have
sex.

<http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=453468>:

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Thousands of people in Africa will be paid to avoid unsafe sex, under
a groundbreaking World Bank-backed experiment aimed at halting the
spread of Aids.

The $1.8m trial – to be launched this year – will counsel 3,000 men
and women aged 15-30 in southern rural Tanzania over three years,
paying them on condition that periodic laboratory test results prove
they have not contracted sexually transmitted infections.

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Death - 26 Apr 2008 17:48 GMT
If one reads what you wrote, it would seem no sex is involved
in this program.
However you go on and post that it has to be safe-sex
which would indeed include sex.

Another example is: you use the HIV movement, but
the article states sexually transmitted infections..........

Your views come across better when you stick to the facts

> The overt racism of the HIV movement never fails to amaze me.  Their
> latest wheeze is to, effectively, pay people in Africa *not* to have
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Martin - 26 Apr 2008 19:51 GMT
>If one reads what you wrote, it would seem no sex is involved
>in this program.
>However you go on and post that it has to be safe-sex
>which would indeed include sex.

No sex or protected sex, the aim is the same: prevent (black) Africans
from reproducing.

>Another example is: you use the HIV movement, but
>the article states sexually transmitted infections..........

LOL.

<http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=453468>

Title of article: "World Bank backs anti-Aids experiment"

It contains:

"...groundbreaking World Bank-backed experiment aimed at halting the
spread of Aids;"

"In spite of billions of dollars spent annually on treatment and
prevention worldwide, there were about 2.5m new HIV infections in
2007, predominantly in Africa;"

"...reducing HIV infection...;"

"The Tanzanian trial programme, which is still subject to fine-tuning
and ethical approval, will not specifically test for HIV, which is
costly..."

Only in the final paragraph do we discover that participants won't be
tested for HIV (antibodies): "The Tanzanian trial programme, which is
still subject to fine-tuning and ethical approval, will not
specifically test for HIV, which is costly and already widely
conducted in the country. It will use proxies including gonorrhoea,
and guarantees any participant found to be infected receives state
treatment."

>Your views come across better when you stick to the facts

The article also contains this: "The designers of the Tanzanian
programme believe that payments of $45 when combined with careful
counselling could play an important role in reducing HIV infection,
especially for vulnerable young women."

Careful counselling and $45 isn't the same as safe sex.

I wonder if vaginal drenching with lemon juice will be promoted as a
way to prevent HIV infection?  Perhaps not: that was another failed
HIV experiment.
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Death - 27 Apr 2008 03:18 GMT
"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message

>  "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
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> No sex or protected sex, the aim is the same: prevent (black) Africans
> from reproducing.

Again you go out on a limb and inject a subject not embrased
by the article you posted.

The stated aim is to reduce sexually transmitted infections.
I saw nothing to indicate that this is about birth control.

>>Another example is: you use the HIV movement, but
>>the article states sexually transmitted infections..........
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>
> "...reducing HIV infection...;"

There ya go, that makes my case.
Martin - 27 Apr 2008 12:08 GMT
>"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message

>> No sex or protected sex, the aim is the same: prevent (black) Africans
>> from reproducing.

>Again you go out on a limb and inject a subject not embrased
>by the article you posted.
>
>The stated aim is to reduce sexually transmitted infections.
>I saw nothing to indicate that this is about birth control.

Okay, so that's abstinence and condom usage out of the window.  What's
left?

>><http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=453468>
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>There ya go, that makes my case.

Which was: "Another example is: you use the HIV movement, but the
article states sexually transmitted infections.........."

Of course you overlook the rather obvious fact that the article
mentions HIV and AIDS several times, but only specifically refers to
one other STD; and that the title of the article is "World Bank backs
anti-Aids experiment."
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