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From: Gerstein, Rachel <Rachel.Gerstein@umassmed.edu>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 13:30:21 EDT
hello to all,

I have given this some thought (and read the posts re this), and I
would have to now agree that there is nothing to gain to bar
commercial messages from the mailing list. Yes, many would want the
information and it is easy enough to delete what you dont want to
read.

I would actually prefer that these messages are posted, rather than e-
mailing individual list members. That is what motivated my earlier
post. I dont like the practice of companies e-mailing me just because
I post here, or publish in journals that list my e-mail address when I
am an author. Just my preference,

happy flowing...
Rachel

=======================================================
Rachel M. Gerstein, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology
Graduate Program in Immunology/Virology
University of Massachusetts Medical School
55 Lake Avenue North
Worcester, MA 01655-0002
(508) 856-1044
(508) 856-5920 (FAX)

-----Original Message-----
From: FloCyte Associates, INC [mailto:flocyte@flocyte.com]
Sent: Thu 3/20/2008 2:16 PM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN
cell sorting and analysis system there

No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100% with Roland.

I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves
issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you
exclude vendors from the discussion???

And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get
results. The vendors HEAR their requests and respond!    I've learned
a LOT from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find
out about new products and services? How often would you go to the
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know
exists? Or how do you know there is some training opportunity
happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?

Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
[Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!

I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
list!!    Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I filter
this list!
Sue

At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

>I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>this is unacceptable ?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joanne Lannigan
>[<mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu>mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu]
>Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and
>introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>
>Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
>website has a place where you can post news releases about such events or
>information. Thanks-
>
>On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company designs,
> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
> >systems
> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the decision
> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States and
> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently offers
> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and analysis
> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office is in
> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
> >Coast
> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp) to
> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
> overseeing the US
> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The company
> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
> >(March
> > 13-15, in Portland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May 17-21).
> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss any
> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to hearing
> > from you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jeff Harvey

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From: Adrian Smith <a.smith@centenary.usyd.edu.AU>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 06:14:08 EDT
I agree with Sue and Roland. I would hate to see the list swamped by
marketing material but the occasional announcement like the one
below
is definitely of interest to me.

Another example of a mailing list that works with some vendor input
from time to time is the confocal mailing list - often there the
subject line will be prefixed with "Commercial". Some people on that
list on that list are also careful to declare commercial interest -
which I always appreciate.

The bottom line, to quote, out of context (?), from another thread :)

> If you don t want to hear (read) it then just delete it.
> JL

Regards,

Adrian Smith
Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia

On 21/03/2008, at 5:16 AM, FloCyte Associates, INC wrote:

> No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
> 100% with Roland.
>
> I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
> the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to
> attend ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to
> have very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who
> solves issues with vendor services??    VENDORS! Why on earth would
> you exclude vendors from the discussion???
>
> And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors
> can solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
> list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results.
> The vendors HEAR their requests and respond!    I've learned a LOT
> from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find out
> about new products and services? How often would you go to the ISAC
> website to look for a new product you don't even know exists? Or
> how do you know there is some training opportunity happening in your
> area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how do you get your
> service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
>
> Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
> answer was eloquent!    And, although we've discussed this often,
> nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
> like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
> [Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
>
> I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
> the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
> list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
> and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I
> filter this list!
> Sue
>
> At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>
>> I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>> from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>> this is unacceptable ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joanne Lannigan [ mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu]
>> Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>> To: cyto-inbox its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>>
>> Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The
>> ISAC
>> website has a place where you can post news releases about such
>> events or
>> information. Thanks-
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
>> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
>> designs,
>> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and
>> analysis
>> >systems
>> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
>> decision
>> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United
>> States and
>> > to introduce its instrument systems here.    Bay bioscience
>> currently offers
>> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
>> analysis
>> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company
>> office is in
>> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the
>> East
>> >Coast
>> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website
>> (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
>> > learn more about the company and its products.    I will be
>> overseeing the US
>> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe
>> The company
>> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry
>> Meeting
>> >(March
>> > 13-15, in Portland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
>> 17-21).
>> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to
>> discuss any
>> > aspect of the company's products.    In the interim, please feel
>> free to
>> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
>> hearing
>> > from you.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Jeff Harvey

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From: Gerstein, Rachel <Rachel.Gerstein@umassmed.edu>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 13:30:21 EDT
hello to all,

I have given this some thought (and read the posts re this), and I
would have to now agree that there is nothing to gain to bar
commercial messages from the mailing list. Yes, many would want the
information and it is easy enough to delete what you dont want to
read.

I would actually prefer that these messages are posted, rather than e-
mailing individual list members. That is what motivated my earlier
post. I dont like the practice of companies e-mailing me just because
I post here, or publish in journals that list my e-mail address when I
am an author. Just my preference,

happy flowing...
Rachel

=======================================================
Rachel M. Gerstein, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology
Graduate Program in Immunology/Virology
University of Massachusetts Medical School
55 Lake Avenue North
Worcester, MA 01655-0002
(508) 856-1044
(508) 856-5920 (FAX)

-----Original Message-----
From: FloCyte Associates, INC [mailto:flocyte@flocyte.com]
Sent: Thu 3/20/2008 2:16 PM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN
cell sorting and analysis system there

No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100% with Roland.

I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves
issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you
exclude vendors from the discussion???

And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get
results. The vendors HEAR their requests and respond!    I've learned
a LOT from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find
out about new products and services? How often would you go to the
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know
exists? Or how do you know there is some training opportunity
happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?

Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
[Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!

I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
list!!    Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I filter
this list!
Sue

At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

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From: <vincent.shankey@Coulter.Com>
Date: Fri Mar 21 2008 - 19:47:53 EDT
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
Without belaboring the point, while I find this an interesting
suggestion,
it would imply that I should place [Company] in the subject line
because I
work for a company. All rules have their excess, and I would submit
that J
Paul (actually Steve) and company have done a great job maintaining
the
integrity of this list. If an occasional message is allowed thru that
has
potential commercial implications, I would rather have that than
complete
(or no) censorship. If individuals wish to express their displeasure
at a
specific posting (irrespective of the source) this allows discussion,
and
if necessary, re-calibration of the gating algorithm. And regarding
vendors monitoring the list versus actively soliciting messages, I
suspect
that most monitor this list to gather useful information, much of
potential use to their customers. But this is quite different from
"open
access" for solicitation.
While I'm here, some additional comments:
1.) Cost of the ISAC meeting. I find the registration of $650 (US) a
bit
steep for a meeting. While I was on ISAC Council, a resolution was
passed
by Council that the Congress be shortened (in an attempt to reduce
the
registration fee and overall cost) and be held annually. The
combination
of a $650 registration fee plus hotel costs (esp in Europe- for US
scientists) makes it difficult for many labs to bring key technicians
and
post-docs; it even makes it difficult for many senior scientists to
justify. To put this in a bit of perspective, the American Asc for
Cancer
Research charges a $425 (US) registration fee to their members for
their 4
day. An important difference is that the AACR has SIGNIFICANT
industrial
support. We need to do as much as possible to make our meeting's
overall
cost "reasonable". ISAC must do everything it can to keep the overall
meeting costs (registration, airfare, hotels and meals) to a minimum
(this
ain't ASCO).
2.) Vendor support. This is essential for ISAC or any other
professional
society. At one point, I was chair of the committee that raised
donations
for the ISAC Congress, and approached every company that I could think
of
that sold products to our membership quite shamelessly. Every society
does
this because it helps lower the cost of the meeting (or should) for
the
individual attendees. And by the way, the money the vendors use comes
from
the customers. Donations are thus a means to widen the available
attendees
who will buy their products. The approach must be balanced.
3) Meeting location. While I appreciate this is a problematic issue,
refer
back to item "1. At one point, ISAC restricted the Congress to
"smaller"
venues to keep us together. Much science gets discussed (in places
that
tend to serve alcohol) at ISAC, and that's one reason I attend
(discussion, not libations). Where will we gather in Budapest (after
poster sessions)? Unlikely to be the InterContinental Hotel - I
probably
could not afford one beer there.
4) What is the focus of ISAC? I'm running for Clinical Councilor
(sorry, I
too had to get in my pitch), so my potential constituency for the
most
part has a limited focus. But the society needs to have a balanced
focus
on flow and image cytometry. And I don't think that DNA, RNA or
protein
arrays should be our soup!. Our unit of measurement is the cell, and
once
you bust it up, someone with better technical expertise should be
telling
scientists and clinicians what best to do. That said, we should
communicate and work with "non-cellular" scientists where our
interests
and technologies intersect.
I need to go home for the weekend. A Happy Easter to all.
Sincerely,

Vince

p.s. I'm running for Clinical Councilor. If you live in Chicago vote
early
and often

T. Vincent Shankey, Ph.D.
Advanced Technology Center
Beckman Coulter, Inc.
vincent.shankey@coulter.com
(305)-380-2430

"FloCyte Associates, INC" <flocyte@flocyte.com>
03/20/2008 02:16 PM

To
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Subject
RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN cell
sorting
and analysis system there

No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100%
with Roland.

I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the
expenses for meetings?    Vendors! Without them your cost to attend ISAC
would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have very
cheap
or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves issues with
vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you exclude vendors
from
the discussion???

And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter list,
for
example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results. The
vendors
HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned a LOT from vendors!
Without
messages from Vendors, how do you find out about new products and
services? How often would you go to the ISAC website to look for a
new
product you don't even know exists? Or how do you know there is some
training opportunity happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know
what
you need and how do you get your service / technical questions heard
by
all vendors?

Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer
was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often, nothing has
ever
evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't like messages from
vendors, just filter them out, and having [Company:] in the subject
time
is a perfect way to do that!

I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the
foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing list!!
Just
put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them and decide what
I
want to read or not read later! Just like I filter this list!
Sue

At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses from
the
mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree this is
unacceptable ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne Lannigan [ mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu]
Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
To: cyto-inbox

Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
website has a place where you can post news releases about such events
or
information. Thanks-

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
"Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company

designs,

> develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
>systems
> and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the

decision

> earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States and
> to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently

offers

> the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and

analysis

> capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office is

> the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
>Coast
> and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
> learn more about the company and its products. I will be

overseeing the US

> operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The

company

> will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
>(March
> 13-15, in Portland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May

17-21).

> Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss any
> aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to

hearing

> from you.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jeff Harvey

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Mitch Haynes - 30 Mar 2008 05:55 GMT

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advanced
users looking for a stronger foundation in flow cytometry basic
theory.
Link to the course curriculum:
<http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/basic_curriculum.htm>
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/basic_curriculum.htm

The Multiparameter Flow Cytometry and Compensation course will be
held
March
5, 2008. This advanced level course is for flow cytometry users who
are
interested in continuing their education in the field, and who plan
to
do
sophisticated polychromatic flow cytometry experimental analyses. It
is
suggested that participates have a good foundation in basic flow
theory and
operation prior to attending this course, or have attended the basic
course.
Link to course curriculum:
<http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/multiparameter_flow_cytometry.htm>
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/multiparameter_flow_cytometry.htm

The third course, held on Thursday March 6 will be the Intracellular
flow
course, and on Friday, the 7th we'll conclude the week with a whole
day on
Apoptosis.

If you need Spanish translations of the course curricula, please let
me know
by email and I will gladly send them to you.

Register for one or all of these courses at the FloCyte Associates
website:
<http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm>
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm

Please invite others you know who would also benefit who may not be
on
the
Purdue List Server.

Visit the website for more information on the FloCyte Associates
Regional
Training Program. <http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm>
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm
Also, as the hostess of this event, please feel free to contact me
for
more
details.

Hope to see you there!

Marma Candela Iglesias, PhD

Centro de Investigacion en Enfermedades Infecciosas (CIENI)

Instituto Nacional de Enfermedades Respiratorias

Calzada de Tlalpan 4502. Col. Seccion XVI

CP 14080. Deleg. Tlalpan

Mixico DF.

tel y fax +52 (55) 56 66 79 85

cand...@iner.gob.mx

candela.igles...@cieni.org.mx

Mensaje en espaqol

Estimados colegas,

El grupo de citometrma de flujo del Centro de Investigacisn en
Enfermedades
Infecciosas (CIENI), del Instituto Nacional de Enfermedades
Respiratorias
tiene el agrado de ser el anfitrisn del primer curso en Mixico del
Programa
Regional de Entrenamiento de Flocyte. Estamos ofreciendo una semana
completa
de cursos en Marzo del 2008. Dorothy Lewis y Carol Oxford seran
nuestros
instructores durante los 5 dmas de curso. Se pueden registrar para
cada
curso de forma individual, o si desean registrarse para los 4 cursos,
recibiran un descuento especial de 200 USD sobre el precio regular.
Por
favor tomen en cuenta que los cursos se llevaran a cabo en inglis,
aunque
contaremos con traducciones para las sesiones de preguntas y
respuestas.

El Curso Basico de citometrma de flujo se llevara a cabo el 3 y 4 de
marzo,
2008. Esta sesisn es excelente para principiantes y tambiin una muy
buena
opcisn para aquellos usuarios de nivel intermedio-avanzado que deseen
bases
mas sslidas en la teorma de la citometrma de flujo. Pueden acceder al
programa del curso (en inglis) en
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/basic_curriculum.htm.
<http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/basic_curriculum.htm.%20Si%20desean
%20traduccio
nes%20al%20espaqol%20del%20programa,%20favor%20de%20solicitarmelas
%20por%20e
mail.>

El Curso de Citometrma Multiparamitrica y Compensacisn se llevara a
cabo el
dma 5 de marzo del 2008. Este curso de nivel avanzado es para
usuarios
que
deseen continuar su educacisn en este campo y que planean llevar a
cabo
experimentos y analisis complejos de citometrma de flujo
policromatica. Es
deseable que los participantes cuenten con buenas bases tesricas y
practicas
de citometrma de flujo, o que hayan llevado el Curso Basico. Pueden
acceder
al programa del curso (en inglis) en
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/multiparameter_flow_cytometry.htm

El tercer curso, que se llevara a cabo el 6 de marzo, 2008, sera
sobre
Citometrma de Flujo Intracelular. Terminaremos la semana el viernes 7
con
todo un dma sobre Apoptosis.

Si desean traducciones al espaqol de los programas, favor de
solicitarmelas
por email y con gusto se las hari llegar.

Pueden registrarse a uno o varios de estos cursos en
http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm

Les agradeceri si pueden hacer llegar esta informacisn a otras
personas
alrededor suyo que pudieran beneficiarse de estos cursos y que no
estin
inscritas en la lista de difusisn de Purdue.

Pueden encontrar mas informacisn sobre el Programa Regional de
Entrenamiento
de la Asociacisn Flocyte en http://www.flocyte.com/FRTP/FRTPHome.htm

Asimismo, como la anfitriona de este evento, estoy a su disposicisn
si
requieren mas detalles.

!Espero verlos en el curso!

Saludos cordiales,

Marma Candela Iglesias, PhD

Centro de Investigacion en Enfermedades Infecciosas (CIENI)

Instituto Nacional de Enfermedades Respiratorias

Calzada de Tlalpan 4502. Col. Seccion XVI

CP 14080. Deleg. Tlalpan

Mixico DF.

tel y fax +52 (55) 56 66 79 85

cand...@iner.gob.mx

candela.igles...@cieni.org.mx

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