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by Keith O'Brien. Less affluent areas see increase in teen births.

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the zak - 16 Mar 2008 18:07 GMT
by Keith O'Brien
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/16/less_affluent_areas_see_inc
rease_in_teen_births/

Less affluent areas see increase in teen births
But overall rate in Mass. on decline, state reports
Scott Ley - 18 Mar 2008 12:39 GMT
> by Keith O'Brien
> http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/16/less_affluent_areas_see_inc
rease_in_teen_births/

> Less affluent areas see increase in teen births
> But overall rate in Mass. on decline, state reports

Whew!  Just look at that figure for the city of
Cambridge, Massachusetts!  A "60.8%" increase!
(Though I have a feeling they meant more like
"+16.8%".)

Boston.com ought to be more careful with their
graphs!

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shenhe.polyioo@gmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 04:50 GMT
> > by Keith O'Brien
> >http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/16/less_affluent_ar...
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>
> P.S.http://scotty.secretsgolden.com

No, they mean a 60.8% increase.
Think of it this way: Going from 3 to 6 is a 100% increase. Since they
were already at a very low number (under 10), it took very little
change to make it a big percentage increase.

This is how the CEO of company that only sold 10 cars last year can
put out a press release stating they have had a 20% increase in sales
after selling 12 cars this year. Now the CEO is worth his $500k
salary, right?

He
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Scott Ley - 20 Mar 2008 09:50 GMT
>> > by Keith O'Brien
>> >http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/16/less_affluent_ar...
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> He
> poly-ioo.com

Thank you, He, you are right.  I stand
corrected.  AND a big "sorry 'bout that"
to...

  Boston.com!

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Doctroid - 21 Mar 2008 15:24 GMT
In article
<dd73890c-5789-432e-988b-707b828a4dd6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

> > > by Keith O'Brien
> > >http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/16/less_affluent_ar...
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> were already at a very low number (under 10), it took very little
> change to make it a big percentage increase.

Cambridge, MA had a population of just over 100,000 in 2000 (Wikipedia).  
Figuring half of that is female and very roughly 5% of that is ages
15-19, there are 2500 girls in that age range (I almost said 'age rage',
psychoanalyze that) in Cambridge.  From the graph the birth rate looks
like it went from about 7 per 1000 to about 10 per 1000, but that's only
a 3/7 = 43% increase. So maybe it was closer to 6.5 per 1000 to 10.5 per
1000 -- that is, from about 16 to about 26 births, an increase of about
10 births.  From counting statistics that's about 16 +- 4 to 26 +- 5 and
the difference is 10 +- 6.4.  So Cambridge's 60.8% increase is
statistically insignificant at just over 1.5 sigma.

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to work out the statistical
significance of the increases and decreases in the other cities shown,
but I'll hazard a guess as to the answer: little to none.  (Hint: Look
at Boston, the one really big city in the list.)

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Pitui Terrington - 21 Mar 2008 16:46 GMT
From counting statistics that's about 16 +- 4 to 26 +- 5 and
> the difference is 10 +- 6.4.  So Cambridge's 60.8% increase is
> statistically insignificant at just over 1.5 sigma.
>
> I leave it as an exercise for the reader to work out the statistical
> significance of the increases and decreases in the other cities shown,
> but I'll hazard a guess as to the answer: little to none.  

Knock it off Doctroid! You KNOW statistics talk makes me all hot
and bothered.
 
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