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Purdue Cytometry Mail List and Science Advisory Board.....Who is and     was on the Purdue Cytometry Mail list? Lovesthelab Did you read the flow     perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).     So why is she giving referrals on software?  SO WHERE DO THESE ANSWERS COME     FROM? They had no PROBLEM posting Kanecki Asoociates MitchelLHaynes and     Deleting the FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11 off the message but left the CORPORATE     INFORMATION. WHY SUCH GAMES?

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mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 :  6:21:13 PM
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I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member

United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 :  10:46:54 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member

Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 :  11:48:43 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 :  4:59:46 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member

United States WI
17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 :  5:44:55 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
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quote:
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As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

PLapierre
Senior Member

Canada
242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 :  7:49:11 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried
many but there any many alternatives

Author  Topic
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 :  6:21:13 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member

United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 :  10:46:54 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member

Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 :  11:48:43 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 :  4:59:46 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 :  5:44:55 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

PLapierre
Senior Member

Canada
242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 :  7:49:11 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried
many but there any many alternatives anyway..

Author  Topic
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 :  6:21:13 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member

United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 :  10:46:54 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member

Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 :  11:48:43 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 :  4:59:46 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 :  5:44:55 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac
versions.Author  Topic
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 :  6:21:13 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member

United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 :  10:46:54 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member

Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 :  11:48:43 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 :  4:59:46 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member

United States
17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 :  5:44:55 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

PLapierre
Senior Member

Canada
242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 :  7:49:11 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried
many but there any many alternatives anyway..

Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

PLapierre
Senior Member

Canada
242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 :  7:49:11 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried
many but there any many alternatives anyway..

  Flow Cytometry Plus Microscopy

"The visualpower of microscopy plus the statistical rigor of flow
cytometry rolled into 1 package."  That's the company's tag line.  And
they deliver.

LOVETHELAB?************

I'm a BD flow lover, a confirmed Mac user (I tell everyone "I don't do
Windows").  So why am I touting a machine made by Amnis that requires
Windows?  Because this instrument goes above and beyond mere flow
cytometry- it shows you every event (that's cell to non-flow users) in
detail.  I used it and I am sold.  It takes a single experiment now to
do intracellular localization, in place of two.  A simpler caspase
activation assay.  What's not to love?  Even the computer quandary is
solvable (the one feature I'd change: I'd have it run off a Mac) -
with an Intel Mac; just get Parallels software, install Windows, and
you are good to go, or rather, run.  And the ImageStream can run off
an Intel Mac this way too.  I bought an Intel iMac just for analysis.
Installation of Parallels was easy, IDEAS is about as intuitional as
any flow software package.  And Amnnis reps bend over to be helpful.
Don't let the price tag scare you; rather, help write a shared-
instrument grant (we did) for your institution to get one.  It is
simply amazing.

Review by lovesthelab

*********************************************************************************************************************************
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
807 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
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quote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

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mlinde
Member

United States
11 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 :  6:21:13 PM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I
was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member

United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 :  10:46:54 PM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member

Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 :  11:48:43 AM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
807 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 :  4:59:46 PM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member

United States
11 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 :  5:44:55 PM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
807 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 :  1:22:04 PM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some
more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

rgrant
Moderator

Australia
2364 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 :  02:34:47 AM
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Well, it took me about 30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes is
VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html

Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread
yesterday).

--
"I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle
http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg

rwintle
Advanced Member

Canada
4710 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 :  10:49:46 AM
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AND SOMEBODY TELL HIM TO STOP SHOUTING.
khenwood67
Administrator

United States
248 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 :  11:03:53 AM
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I've deleted the topic that he started, and also deleted his post in
this forum. He won't be posting on the forums again.

Kathryn Henwood
Membership Coordinator
The Science Advisory Board
k.henw...@scienceboard.net

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Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some
more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.

Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM
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rgrant
*************************************************************************
Moderator

Australia
2364 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 :  02:34:47 AM
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Well, it took me about 30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes is
*******************************************
VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html

Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread
yesterday).

--
"I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle
http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg
*****************************************************************

WELL I MUST BE SHOUTING SINCE THIS IS IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

WHO IS ON THE PURDUE CYTMETRY MAIL LIST OR WAS THAT MAKES THESE
COMMENTS?

DOES PURDUE *********MANAGE THE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD?

Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread
yesterday).

THE DISCLAIMER JUST POPPED UP FOR SCIENTIST SOLUTIONS PUCL PURDUE
CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST **********MANAGES**** THE DISCUSSIONS.....

ARE PEOPLE GETTING INFLUENCED ANSWERS WITH LEADING QUESTIONS TO
PROMOTE SOFTWARE?

SAME PEOPLE IN SAME CONVERSATIONS

Mitchell Haynes is *******************************************
VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html

Lovesthelab Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software
discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). So why is she giving
referrals on software? ????????????

WHO CAN YOU GET HONEST ANSWERS FROM WITH *********NO INFLUENCE????
******

General Flow Cytometry Resources

Purdue University Cytometry Laboratory
Website

Start learning about flow cytometry on the web at this site. The most
comprehensive flow cytometry and analytical cytology website I have
found. You will find resources ranging from archived protocols to
request forms for the latest protocols CD-ROMs - and they are free
while supplies last. Job listings, meetings, journals, latest
developments- it is all here.

Lectures
Website

Dr. J. Paul Robinson, Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine,
has put a compilation of lec-ture slides on a website. Some of the
information is bullet statements, but the pictures are great. If
you've never seen a flow cytometer, you'll see lots of them here. If
you are new to flow, you'll find in-troductory slides here.

Practical Flow Cytometry, Fourth Edition by Howard Shapiro, published
by J. Wiley & Sons, 2003.
Website

Dr. Shapiro has kindly put his textbook online through Molecular
Probes. It is free! Yes, you do need to register to see it, but that's
all you need to do, and you have access forever.

Flow Cytometry E-mail Discussion Group
Website

Have a question? Novices to experts, all levels of questions are
welcome. This e-mail group has been invaluable to me. E-mails are
archived and can be searched by topic.

International Society for Analytical Cytology
Website

The premier society for flow cytometry, it publishes Cytometry Parts A
and B (Clinical Cytometry), Case Studies in Clinical Flow Cytometry,
and Current Protocols in Cytometry. These are available on-line, but
you must be subscribed for access. Regular dues are US $126; fees are
deeply dis-counted for students, post-doctoral fellows, and scientists
from developing nations. Please consider joining.

National Flow Cytometry Resource, Los Alamos National Laboratories
Website

Where the cutting edge happens. NFCR runs a course every June that
alternates between Los Ala-mos and New England. I recommend it to the
serious flow person; you will learn a tremendous amount, including how
to build your own flow cytometer, if you are so inclined.

FlowCyte
Website

This discussion group is dedicated to flow users interested in
developing uniform bioinformatics standards. They are also developing
analysis and statistics software for flow users.

SUCH A LARGE LIST TOOOOOO ALL GOES BACK TO J PAUL ROBINSON

JUST GOOGLE PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST

YOU WILL FIND ALL YOUR MODERATIORS PROBABLY WENT THROUGHT THE LIST

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Date: Mon Aug 23 2004 - 18:46:12 EST
I knew that I should not have taken Mario's bait....but its
been a long summer.....!
paul

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> Paul:

> I use Macs exclusively.  Between home and labs, I have 7.
> I hate Windows (I tell everyone, I don't do Windows).
> Macs are what Windows wishes it could do.  OS X is rock-solid,
> especially Jaguar (OS 10.3).
> BD guys-get with it and release CellQuest Pro for OS X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Oh, and Macs are way more photogenic.  They look especially cool next
> to your flow cytometer.  I just bought a new dual-boot G4 with
> flat-panel display for my flow.
> Beverly

> Beverly E. Barton, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Surgery/Division of Urology
> UMDNJ-NJMS  MSB G519
> 185 S. Orange Avenue
> Newark, New Jersey 07103

> Telephone                  973-972-0662
> E-mail                             barto...@umdnj.edu
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> On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, J. Paul Robinson wrote:

> > ummm....Mario says..
> > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > paul

> >> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
> >> wet your
> >> pocket protectors over this.

> >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> >> http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/roederer
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> > J.Paul Robinson, PhD           PH:(765)4940757
> > Professor of Immunopharmacology
> > Professor of Biomedical Engineering
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> > EMAIL:j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > WEB: http://www.cyto.purdue.edu

> > Have you seen our new HCS webpage?
> > http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hcs

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 PLapierre
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262 Posts     Posted - February 11 2008 :  7:42:43 PM  Show Profile
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you think is a better platform for bioinformatics, i think it use to
be mac (Dnasis, etc) but i think its changing, i m happy that Intel
mac can run windows now!

What do you think?
Kannan
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The software should be compatible.Go to Top of Page
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Ana Laura
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unfortunately unavoidable.

Doesn't mean I have to like it. A bit like public transport, really.

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   quote:
   Why would anyone infect a Mac with Windows?

**SIGH**
Because certain imbecile flow cytometry software executives made the
executive decision to release acquisiton/analysis software for Windows
only.
We hates it. Ruins the Precious, it does.

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can already see myself rebooting the FACS every 10 minutes ;)Go to Top
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   quote:
   Did BD biosciences change their FACS platform from Mac to PC? That
would be a shame, i can already see myself rebooting the FACS every 10
minutes ;)

**BIG SIGH**
Yes. See FACSDiva on the web.
Imbecile is being kind.
Also see Winlist, Amnis IDEAS software for ImageStream.
The Precious calls.

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Ana Laura
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351 Posts     Posted - February 13 2008 :  4:30:54 PM  Show Profile
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Nice Fishes
Nasty Windowses

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instant message  Reply with Quote  Reply *HOWLS* of laughter.

(My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf')

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LOVE IT!
Ana Laura, can you send me a jpg (signed by you, of course) so I can
hang it up in my new office?

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   quote:
   Most softwares are PC based , though few in Mac for special
instrument vendors.

Most does not equal best.

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   quote:

       quote:
       Most softwares are PC based , though few in Mac for special
instrument vendors.

   Most does not equal best.

   been there, done that more times than I care to admit

Aint that the truth! the amount of useless and crappy software
available for windows is mind boggling!Go to Top of Page
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   quote:
   *HOWLS* of laughter.

   (My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf')

   --
   "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" --
rwintle
   http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg

My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my iMac at
work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at home is
Rivendell.

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   quote:
   My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my
iMac at work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at
home is Rivendell.

[sigh] My laptop's network ID is "XPWS-15" or something like that.
Danger of having to have the institutional IT folks set it up, I
guess.

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   ... Our network at home is Rivendell.

sweet. good to know for wardriving.

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   quote:

       quote:
       ... Our network at home is Rivendell.

   sweet. good to know for wardriving.

? Online game?

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   ? Online game?

no, dear. hacking your WiFI access point at home . it's called
'wardriving'. just kidding - i was planning for Baltimore, not for
Newark

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   quote:

       quote:
       *HOWLS* of laughter.

       (My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf')

       --
       "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" --
rwintle
       http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg

   My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my
iMac at work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at
home is Rivendell.

   been there, done that more times than I care to admit

You re a lot more imaginative than me, my network is named NETGEAR and
my computers are named PC-1, PC-2, etc..:(
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Nexins
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   quote:
   ... my network is named NETGEAR and my computers are named PC-1,
PC-2, etc..:(

s/he just cries to get hacked! wardrivers of the world, unite

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   quote:

       quote:
       ? Online game?

   no, dear. hacking your WiFI access point at home . it's called
'wardriving'. just kidding - i was planning for Baltimore, not for
Newark

Have to know the password and I know you'll never guess it. Nor will
anyone outside of my family. 3 firewalls are up. paranoid, we are.

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jooly
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network is still called 'NETGEAR' then the password is easily
guessable.

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jooly
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Belkin something or other, and it's fully password protected.
Unfortunately (being a cheap and nasty belkin) it gets horrifically
unstable if we try to change too many settings on it, like assigning
an SSID or using MAC address control. If I'd paid for it, I'd be
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PLapierre
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Eastern Time, my Network is now called er7tr6re7e98r6987re6e9r8t.
Somehow i feel more secure now :)Go to Top of Page
jooly
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as secure, methinks.

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   quote:
   I'm guessing it's either JRRTolkein or silmarillion

Nothing even remotely Tolkien. heh heh heh...

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   quote:
   resisting the urge to tell everyone you meet would be even more
secure

Oops...:)

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