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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / March 2008Western Australia wants to lock up people diagnosed HIV+ without charge
<http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23265237-2,00.html>: ----- Begin Quote ----- PEOPLE carrying dangerous diseases and sexually transmitted infections, such as HIV, could be detained without charge and forced to undergo medical treatment under legal changes. A new public health Bill is set to replace the existing law, which is nearly 100 years old, and give the The Western Australian Health Department powers to deal swiftly with individuals who it suspects pose a threat to the community. Those affected could be banned from venues such as nightclubs, public baths or bars and have to submit to supervision or face the threat of a $50,000 fine. They could also be forced to take antibiotics. ----- End Quote -----  Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,791 days and counting... "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > Those affected could be banned from venues such as nightclubs, public > baths or bars and have to submit to supervision or face the threat of > a $50,000 fine. They could also be forced to take antibiotics. We knew that was coming right? >"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >We knew that was coming right? It's probably partly due to people who, having been diagnosed as disease carriers and informed of their diagnosis, adopt alternative "theories of convenience" that enable them to deny that they are disease carriers. This allows them to excuse (to themselves, to others, and perhaps to the legal system) irresponsible behaviour that places other people's lives at risk. SignatureDavid Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. | > >"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > others, and perhaps to the legal system) irresponsible behaviour > that places other people's lives at risk. I agree with that. Knowing (you) not you.....are infected may slow personal risky behavior so many don't get tested. They use the stigma excuse. Carter was famous for that line. The word I responded to above is forced. It is a damn shame when people won't stop spreading an infection without some entity having to step in and force them. >> It's probably partly due to people who, having been diagnosed as >> disease carriers and informed of their diagnosis, adopt alternative >> "theories of convenience" that enable them to deny that they are >> disease carriers. This allows them to excuse (to themselves, to >> others, and perhaps to the legal system) irresponsible behaviour >> that places other people's lives at risk. >I agree with that. Knowing (you) not you.....are infected >may slow personal risky behavior so many don't get tested. >They use the stigma excuse. Carter was famous for that line. He also predicted that last summer would be my last and I'd be dead by now. Let's face it, he wasn't Nostradamus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus>. Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,793 days and counting... > >> It's probably partly due to people who, having been diagnosed as > >> disease carriers and informed of their diagnosis, adopt alternative [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He also predicted that last summer would be my last and I'd be dead by > now. Let's face it, he wasn't Nostradamus Carter did have some good points, I just can't remember what they were at the moment. >Carter did have some good points, I just can't remember >what they were at the moment. He must have made them all before I arrived here. Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,797 days and counting... > >Carter did have some good points, I just can't remember > >what they were at the moment. > > He must have made them all before I arrived here. Carter was posting here for about 10 years before you arrived. He was a member of ACT-UP and fed the party-line. I wonder if his absence means the boxwood extract didn't work. >>"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >>> Those affected could be banned from venues such as nightclubs, public >>> baths or bars and have to submit to supervision or face the threat of >>> a $50,000 fine. They could also be forced to take antibiotics. >>We knew that was coming right? >It's probably partly due to people who, having been diagnosed as >disease carriers and informed of their diagnosis, adopt alternative >"theories of convenience" that enable them to deny that they are >disease carriers. This allows them to excuse (to themselves, to >others, and perhaps to the legal system) irresponsible behaviour >that places other people's lives at risk. When it comes to HIV, perhaps these people are little poofs like me who did their duty by following advice from government, media and peers to have an HIV test. Then, after being told they had the dreaded bug they sat around for many years waiting to get ill and die. One day they realised they haven't died or even got ill. And after investigation discovered that the HIV test they had wasn't a test for HIV after all. There is no test for HIV. And then, surprise, surprise they discovered that HIV isn't the nasty big killer that everyone believes it is. Disregarding Africa, only a tiny number of people have been diagnosed HIV+, despite all the horror stories in the 1980s about how quickly it would spread. Oh, and guess what: people don't fall apart and drop dead within months, years or even decades of being infected with the killer virus. Life expectancy for those diagnose HIV just keeps going up and up. I know you're going to tell me that's all thanks to HIV wonder drugs, but then I look in the mirror at my own case: diagnosed HIV+ more than thirteen years ago and I've never had a single symptom associated with the virus. And you know what? There are lots of other people like me: diagnosed HIV+ and as fit as a fiddle. I was reading messages posted to an HIV support a couple of days ago. Virtually every other one of them was a whinge about getting social security. People who have been diagnosed HIV+ are faking illness and symptoms to get handouts from the state. And worse still, many take HIV wonder drugs because doing so increases their chance of having their benefit claims accepted. A long list of drugs and side effects looks good on the claim form. You never have explained us your vested interest in keeping the HIV myth alive. Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,793 days and counting... >"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >> Those affected could be banned from venues such as nightclubs, public >> baths or bars and have to submit to supervision or face the threat of >> a $50,000 fine. They could also be forced to take antibiotics. >We knew that was coming right? I don't know which surprises me least: it being seen as just another way to raise funds in the name of HIV, or the desire to poison the infected with deadly drug cocktails. Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,791 days and counting... > >"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > >> Those affected could be banned from venues such as nightclubs, public [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > way to raise funds in the name of HIV, or the desire to poison the > infected with deadly drug cocktails. I never saw it either way Martin. I saw it as people having to be threatened with a fine, a ban or forced antibiotics. Is the desire to stick your dick in sh.t so strong? Knowing the danger of certain risky behaviors, how can the lure of sh.t smell so sweet? >> I don't know which surprises me least: it being seen as just another >> way to raise funds in the name of HIV, or the desire to poison the >> infected with deadly drug cocktails. >I never saw it either way Martin. >I saw it as people having to be threatened with a fine, a ban >or forced antibiotics. >Is the desire to stick your dick in sh.t so strong? >Knowing the danger of certain risky behaviors, >how can the lure of sh.t smell so sweet? Anal sex is probably as repulsive to you as vaginal sex is to me. What are the biggest killers in the western world? Death from AIDS probably trails way behind caner, heart disease, road accidents and perhaps even gun crime in some countries. People take risks every day. To encourage us to procreate Mother Nature has made sex an incredibly pleasurable experience, so it's hardly surprising that people throw caution to the wind to attain gratification. <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm>: ----- Begin Quote ----- A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to three years on probation. Robert Stewart, 51, admitted a sexually aggravated breach of the peace by conducting himself in a disorderly manner and simulating sex. Sheriff Colin Miller also placed Stewart on the Sex Offenders Register for three years. Mr Stewart was caught in the act with his bicycle by cleaners in his bedroom at the Aberley House Hostel in Ayr. Gail Davidson, prosecuting, told Ayr Sheriff Court: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply. "They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the accused wearing only a white t-shirt, naked from the waist down. "The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as if to simulate sex." ----- End Quote ----- Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 4,793 days and counting... "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > ----- Begin Quote ----- > > A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to > three years on probation. lol
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