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Mitch Haynes - 12 Feb 2008 21:39 GMT

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From: Cytometry Mailing List <CYTOLIST@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
Date: Fri Feb 08 2008 - 12:21:23 EST

I've sent this as a message to the entire list, rather than
a simple reply because it seems like a good opportunity to remind
everyone.

Messages from the Purdue list will have the original author's
addresses in them, rather than a generic list address. We
specifically chose that option because it makes it easier to
make a private response to the author, and it slightly reduces
the chance of replying to all instead of to one.

I recognize that this creates considerable annoyance for the
authors who make this list run - it means that 'vacation' or
'out of office' responses go to the original authors as well.
As the list coordinator, I almost never see the 'out of office'
messages; when I do, I can remove the vacationer temporarily, and
have them automatically resubscribed when they return. So let me
use this platform to beg:
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF THE OFFICE, and IF YOUR MAIL SOFTWARE
IS GOING TO SEND VACATION MESSAGES: Please send me a note at
cyto-request@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu, and tell me when you will
be gone, and when you will be back. It only takes me about 3 seconds
(literally - I've timed it) to handle those requests, but I can
only do it when I see them. (That's another reason I've replied to
the entire list with this message - I'll see the current batch.)
And if you value your eardrums, never mention automated vacation
message systems in a room full of mailing list managers.

As to filtering the messages: Every message from us will have a line
in its header consisting of:
'To: Cytometry Mailing List <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>'
and your mail client should be able to filter based on that.

We will probably be switching to a completely different mailing
list system sometime this spring, with more automation, and a
built-in digest option. Creating message digests is not at all
trivial, and creating good message digests absolutely requires
painstakingly editing each one completely by hand to remove repeated
quotes, and arrange components into a timeline.

Thank you all again for your continued interest in our list,
and I hope we can continue to be useful to you.

Steve

From:    "Roberts, Daniel" <Daniel.Roberts@covance.com>
To:    cyto-request@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Subject:    Filtering Incomming messages
Date sent:    Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:11:37 -0500

> I am new to the mailing list, and noticed that emails filter in under
> individual email addresses. Is there a handy way to have the emails be
> filtered to a subfolder? I guess I am wondering if there is a 'hidden' email
> that they are all redirected to.
> Also, when replying to an inquiry (say from Joe.smith@lab.com
> <mailto:Joe.smith@lab.com> ), if I hit reply, would it go to the dist list,
> or just Joe Smith?
> Thanks,
> Dan
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Mitch Haynes - 15 Feb 2008 06:16 GMT

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RAY HICKS WITH MORE FILTERING INFO FROM NEW CORPORATE EMAIL ADDRESS
SELLING MORE SOFTWARE WITH FLOWJO PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST DOES IT
AGAIN 2008...

RE: Filtering Incomming messages

http://www.cytekdev.com/products_software.xhtml

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From: Ray Hicks <rhi...@cytekdev.com>
Date: Fri Feb 08 2008 - 21:09:54 EST

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Mitch Haynes - 11 Mar 2008 23:15 GMT

> > Re: Filtering Incomming messages
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> WHY ARE THERE LICENSE FEES FOR FLOW CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE...? IS THERE A
> SOLUTION?

> IF THE PRESIDENT OF ISAC J PAUL ROBINSON IS SO INTERESTED IN HELPING
> EVERYONE AND SAVING MONEY FOR THE WORLD....WHY DID HE CALL KANECKI
> ASSOCIATES INC...SCAMMERS FOR INTRODUCING SOFTWARE FOR FLOW
> CYTOMETRY....

> NO LICENSE FEES... AND ONLY $150.00 FOR STUDENTS TO OWN. WORKS FOR ALL
> BD AND BECKMAN CYTOMETRS?

> WHY DOES PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST PUSH 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE......

> WHY WERE ALL THE SOFTWARE LEADS AND SALES FROM VERITY HOUSE SOFTWARE
> DELETED?

> SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD LEADING?????? DELETING KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC.
> FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11 OFF THE DISCUSSION LIST!

> YES THE COMPANY IS NOT A SCAM AND IS LISTED ON THE NIH...AND FED
> VENDOR...

> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.aids/browse_thread/thread/...

> Core Facilities.........
> I know this is a sad topic. User fees
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> I know this is a sad topic. User fees
> I know this is a sad topic. User fees

> Purdue Cytometry FlowJo University of Virginia Cost per user license
> will be determined at the end of the year depending on the average
> number of registered users. Is there Discrimination of OTHER SOFTWARE
> COMPANIES that do not charge LICENSE FEES or are there companies that
> do not charge these fees? Who determines Which SOFTWARE CAN BE SOLD?
> DOES THE UNIVERSITY GET MONEY FROM THE SALES?

> ARMY - 317 Phase I Selections from the 01.2 SolicitationHowever, the
> innovation realized at Purdue will allow for a high ...... here will
> enhance a commercial software product currently in development in-
> house. ...www.dodsbir.net/selections/abs012/armyabs012.htm- 977k - Cached -
> Similar pages - Note this

> http://www.dodsbir.net/selections/abs012/armyabs012.htm

> PURDUE WILL ENHANCE A COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE PRODUCT IN HOUSE?

> PUCL - Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories - Purdue
> Cytometry ...I already told them that they were acting as scammers and
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> 4223a9ff12d5e04d/faa13ded6adb4d08 - 49k - Cached - Similar pages -
> Note this

> Re: [Fwd: flow cytometry
> software will you trust Purdue..Lets play MONOPOLY]

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> J. Paul Robinson
> <j..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>

> ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM

> To:Larry Farrell <farrl..._at_isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
> <buybro..._at_yahoo.com>;
> skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
> ra..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

> Larry

> Sorry you are experiencing a problem

> From the header - This is apparently coming from a Mitchel Haynes

> mitchell haynes <buybro..._at_yahoo.com>
> - is this correct?

> I initially thought messages coming from this person were a scam and

> challenged them when they started posting to our list as well. I had

> someone do a check on them. it is apparent that they have written
> some

> software and they think its ants-pants. They have tried to post
> things

> on the Purdue list, they have used every possible website and email

> discussion group to get cross listed to boost their ratings on
> Google.

> Basically I view their behavior as very tenuous and from the message
> you

> sent me, it appears that it is not appropriate to do what they are
> doing...

> I have taken the following action:

> 1. Steve Kelley has been instructed to remove their email and any

> postings on the Purdue list. They are now banned

> 2. I am going to Copying Bartek Rajwa the editor of the ISAC site to

> beware of them

> 3. I am contacting Google and other sites to let
> them know that these

> people are self-propagating links.

> 4. If I see any message that in any way impunes Purdue or our

> reputation, I will go after them with every possible legal recourse
> at

> my disposal. We will not allow our reputation to suffer because of

> commercial abuse.

> 5. You should ban this address, and basically indicate to your
> members

> that this is a scam. While they claim to be legitimate, they are
> acting

> exactly as any scam artist...I already told them that they were
> acting

> as scammers and they got upset with me...well, if they don't desist,

> they will find out how much influence we actually have...

> I will check the message

> > Subject: flow cytometry software will you trust Purdue..Lets play

> MONOPOLY

> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:38:56 -0800 (PST)
> > Organization:http://groups.google.com

> and see if this is actually libelous - it appears to be - and if it
> is,

> I will close this person down really, really fast!!! (Steve please
> check

> out this message and make a copy)

> Larry, we have about 3000 people on the Purdue discussion list which
> is

> primarily about cytometry - and a lot of flow cytometry - to join,

> people actually have to go through me, and we review every person who

> comes on.

> I am sorry you are experiencing this problem, and we are happy to
> help

> in any way we can.

> regards

> paul Robinson

> Professor, Purdue

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> From: mitchell haynes <buybro..._at_yahoo.com>

> To: skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

> Cc: skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:39:02 AM

> Subject: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING INFORMATION TO
> PROPER
> CHANNELS

> Dear Paul,

> I recieved your responce to the
> email I sent. Please understand it is not junkmail but a update on
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> by our
> corporation.

> It was simply sent as an
> announcement for you concideration.

> The software is demonstrates
> precision and a higer processing rate than every existing software
> today.

> If you have any questions please
> call I provided my phone number with the email. I understand
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> software in the world that works for every platform on one peice of
> software

> Thank your for you time and have a
> great day.

> Please do not blame Steve for send
> the information to the proper channels I would think you would be
> upset if he
> did not foward important infomation that pertains to furthering
> cytometry
> breakthroughs.

> If you would like us to send
> information to another address that won't interfer please foward it
> to
> me and I
> will make sure that there are no more misunderstandings.

> Mitchell Haynes

> MESSAGE SENT FROM J Paul Robinson