Purdue Cytometry Mail List J Paul Robinson President of ISAC 2008
QUOTES I AM CONTACTING GOOGLE AND OTHER SITES TO LET THEM KNOW THAT
THESE PEOPLE ARE SELF-PROPAGATION LINKS! BUT GOOGLE EXPOSES THE TRUTH
ABOUT KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC.ARE NOT SCAMMERS AND WILL NOT BE TOLD
WHAT TO POST AND NOT TO POST BY PURDUE!

THE TRUTH IS OUT DUE TO GOOGLE!

Larry D Farrell sends letter to J Paul Robinson asking him to stop
Kanecki Associates Inc from posting on GOOGLE but GOOGLE will not
allow Filtering of any sort even if J PAUL ROBINSON Head of Purdue
Cytometry and President of ISAC DEMANDS GOOOOGLE NOT TO ALLOW IT!
Local: Fri, Nov 30 2007 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: Flow Cytometry Software Purdue...Larry D. Farrell,
Ph.D.Why do you continue to post cytometry materials in
misc.health.aids? CAN YOU SEE A PROBLEM???? LARY PEOPLE SHOULD CARE
AND BE NOTIFIED..HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY....
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Mitch Haynes wrote:

[shouted ranting snipped]
Pretty much the type of response I expected.  Irrational, essentially
illiterate, irrelevant, illogical.
I have to wonder how successful Kanecki Associates is, if you Mitch
Haynes is an example of the management employed by that company.
Don't bother to rant at me any more, Mitch, you are
PLONKED!!
--
Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology
Idaho State University
Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.

yeah just found it, googled the groups, looking for my name (f.ck i
posted a
lot of crap over the years!) and found it, then found his website with
the
house number, i just called, but no answer (ok i think some answerd,
but
when i spoke with my limey accent, didnt want to speak to me)
Just wanted to wish his wife and family a merry xmas....will try
another
time

G Larry Farrell Wrote the the PRESIDENT OF ISAC J PAUL ROBINSON THEN
TOLD A LIE THAT HE DID NOT SEND ANY LETTER TO J PAUL ROBINSON WHY?
HE CLAIMS THE MISC. HEALTH. AIDS IS HIV GROUP SO LETS VIEW HIS MAIL ON
THE GROUP AS HE USES Professor of Microbiology

MUST BE REPRESENTING THE UNIVERSITY? HE USES THE UNIVERSITY NAME!

ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
GLarry Farrell wrote:

on

of

****************************************************************
Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.

yeah just found it, googled the groups, looking for my name (f.ck i
posted a
lot of crap over the years!) and found it, then found his website with
the
house number, i just called, but no answer (ok i think some answerd,
but
when i spoke with my limey accent, didnt want to speak to me)
Just wanted to wish his wife and family a merry xmas....will try
another
time
*****************************************************************************************************************************8
YOU SHOULD NOT LIE LARRY OR USE CUSS SO MUCH PROFESSOR!
AND IF YOU SHOULD NOT USE IDAHO STATE UNIVERSITY ADDRESS AND NAME
WHILE YOU ACT THIS WAY MR.
Larry Farrell           View profile
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:01:51 -0600
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2007 10:01 am
Subject: Re: What do football and politics have in common?
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geo500...@yahoo.com wrote:

A wide stance in one provides stability, a wide stance in the other
gets you arrested (although not removal from the Senate).
--
Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology
Idaho State University

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On Nov 30, 7:23 pm, Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu> wrote:

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Paul Robinson was *not* informed of my message to you.  What makes
you

Paul Robinson was *not* informed of my message to you.  What makes
you

MITCHELL HAYNES VP KANECKI  ASSOCIATES INC. WROTE:

OK LARRY FARRELL YOU DONT HAVE MY RETURN BUT I DO HAVE YOUR LETTER TO
J PAUL ROBINSON WITH HIS RESPONSE......
OH MY DID YOU FORGET SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
EASY.......!
I DELETED YOUR MESSAGES....GOT EVERY ONE OF THEM......WHY DID YOU
JUST
LIE ABOUT SENDING A LETTER TO J PAUL ROBINSON......?
DID YOU FORGET....

MONOPOLY]
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J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Larry
Sorry you are experiencing a problem
From the header - This is apparently coming from a Mitchel Haynes
mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com> - is this correct?
I initially thought messages coming from this person were a scam and
challenged them when they started posting to our list as well. I had
someone do a check on them. it is apparent that they have written
some
software and they think its ants-pants. They have tried to post
things
on the Purdue list, they have used every possible website and email
discussion group to get cross listed to boost their ratings on
Google.
Basically I view their behavior as very tenuous and from the message
you
sent me, it appears that it is not appropriate to do what they are
doing...
I have taken the following action:

1. Steve Kelley has been instructed to remove their email and any
postings on the Purdue list. They are now banned

2. I am going to Copying Bartek Rajwa the editor of the ISAC site to
beware of them

****************************************************************************************************************************

3. I am contacting Google and other sites to let them know that these
people are self-propagating links.

****************************************************************************************************************************

4. If I see any message that in any way impunes Purdue or our
reputation, I will go after them with every possible legal recourse
at
my disposal. We will not allow our reputation to suffer because of
commercial abuse.
5. You should ban this address, and basically indicate to your
members
that this is a scam. While they claim to be legitimate, they are
acting
exactly as any scam artist...I already told them that they were
acting
as scammers and they got upset with me...well, if they don't desist,
they will find out how much influence we actually have...
I will check the message

MONOPOLY

MONOPOLY]
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J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Larry
Sorry you are experiencing a problem

MONOPOLY]
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J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Larry
Sorry you are experiencing a problem
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DID NOT SEND A MESSAGE TO J PAUL
ROBINSON............................

MONOPOLY]
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J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Larry
Sorry you are experiencing a problem
I CAN POST IT AGAIN........WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH AND DID YOU SEND
IT
THROUGH YOUR CYTOMETRY SECTION THAT WE ARE SCAMMERS TOOO.
HOPE NOT I WILL KEEP A COPY OF YOUR LETTER TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MAYBE YOU SHOULD RETIRE....?
SEEM TO FORGET....DONT LOOSE YOUR STUDENTS WORK.......
OR FORGET
POST FROM LARRY THORUGH THE YEARS ON GOOGLE OPEN RECORDS!

FLOW CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE DEVELOPER KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. WAS CALLED
A
SCAM BY PERDUE J PAUL ROBINSON...THE STORY AND COVER UP THAT IS
WITHIN
THE SYSTEM..WILL THE TRUTH COME OUT?
KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC.INTRODUCES NEW FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11 TO
PERDUE UNIVERSITY ONLY TO BE INSULTED WITHOUT REASON... UNCOVER THE
SCANDLE THAT IS WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND SEE IF THERE IS A CHANCE FOR
REFORM? WILL IT EVER CHANGE? IT MUST COME TO A END

Nov 22, 2007 16:38

Flow Cytometry Software Developer Kanecki Associates Inc. Gets Called
A SCAM by PERDUE's J PAUL ROBINSON
Posted by cytometryuser
Kanecki Associates Inc. Was SHOCKED when J.Paul Robinson from PERDUE
called them SCAMMERS after being Questioned from the University about
the Response about his prior comment of them sending JUNK MAIL to his
Mail List...THE MAIL LIST seemed to be a very sensitive spot for Mr.
Robinson....

After a email was sent by a undisclosed source with a link providing
a
link to the MAIL LIST everything was uncovered FAST....The link was a
open door to a list of MAIL FROM a group of HIGH POWER
INDIVIDUALS...MOST...SOFTWARE PROGRAMMERS THAT DEVELOPED SOFTWARE
WHILE GETTING EDUCATED THROUGH PURDUE...

KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. WOULD LIKE TO STATE THEY ARE NOT SCAMMERS NOR
DID THEY EVER ATTEMPT TO GET ON THE PERDUE MAIL LIST...They have
never
sent mail through the list but just tried to introduce the NEW
software that is distributed through C/net, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Simtel, and may other Major Down load sites.

To view the software JUST       GOOGLE:  FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11.

KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. RELEASED THE NEW FCS CYTOPRO JAVA 6.0 FOR
DOWNLOAD TOO.

**********************WITH NO LICENSE
FEES******************************** AND REASONABLE PRICES THEY
DELIVER A SUPERIOR PRODUCT THAT PROCESS 10 MILLION EVENT FILES...FCS
3.0

THEY DO NOT USE COMPENSATION LIKE OTHER SOFTWARE PROVIDERS SO THERE
IS
NO OVER COMPENSATION ISSUES........Further More there is NO MENUE BAR
which makes for USER FRIENDLY SOFTWARE...VERY EASY TO USE....JUST
PICK
AND CLICK.................................

SO TO PROVIDE THE TRUTH ALL POST THAT WILL BE SHOWN CAME DIRECTLY
FROM
SAVED EMAIL SENT TO PURDUE...IT WAS NOT SENT TO THE LIST BUT TO THE
HEAD OF  PURDUE..

NOT MR.ROBINSON HE RECEIVED A CC...THEN RESPONDED BU CALLING IT JUNK
MAIL!

ORIGINAL MESSAGE SENT      :    TO ROBERT MURPHY  WITH LINKS FOR
DOWNLOAD AND ALL INFORMATION PERTAINING TO FCS CYTORPO QUICK FACS 11

SOME HOW IT WAS FOWARDED TO: J PAUL ROBINSON...MAYBE FOR REVIEW...?

Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
Flow Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR
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mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com>

ViewFriday,
September 28, 2007 1:36:36 AM

To:j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Cc:da...@kanecki2.com

Cytopro
quick facs savings analysis.doc (82KB); Setup-Quick
Facs 11 Demo.exe (7854KB); FCS
CYTOPRO BENIFITS.doc (25KB)

Find:

Dear Robert Murphy

NEW
FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers
CAN
PROCESS 24,000-42,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR.

FLOW CYTOMETRY    FCS CYTO PRO QUICK FACS

http://www.kanecki.com/flow.html

Increased quality and productivity. With 10,000,000 event files, you
can process 24,000 samples/hour, and maintain quality up to Sigma 5
or
better. Compare this to having your research technologist performing
only 100 samples/hour analysis.
Increased laboratory utilization by 3X because you can perform the
analysis off-lab and free laboratory time for reading samples. This
was achieved when I developed the program, and we had a program
project grant from 1992 to 1998 of $8M.
Works with FCS 3.0 in all data modes as floating point, integer*4,
and
ASCII.
Works with BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers and Cell Sorters
Backwards compatible with FCS 2.0 files and Flow Cytometers and Cell
Sorters.
Can read FCS 3.0 files up to 10M events with 20 parameters.
Easy to Use, three step process. Load initial file, set gate, specify
file list to process. That's it.
Collaboration tools to allow you to cut and paste image results to
results.
Statistical analysis results imprinted on histogram plots directly as
mean, mode, and median with the ability to present results in log
mode
or linear mode, depending on the detector used.
Plain vanilla coding for easy update and maintenance to allow for the
greatest user and software quality.
One time purchase fee, no yearly renewal fees as with others.
Proven tract record in FACS, Fluorescent Activated Cell Sorter
Laboratory. The laboratory was rated the best laboratory in the
Midwest USA in 1990.

This application is designed for large-scale fluorescent activated
cell sorter
analysis. The program can read up to FCS 3.0 files and has been
tested
to run on Becton Dickinson and CoulterOrtho based flow cytometers and
cell sorters. The main advantage of this program is that you can have
the computer perform the analysis for you after you have selected the
region to analyze. The result is that up to 24,000 samples per hour
can be analyzed on a 1.4 GHz speed computer.
This program is designed for researcher and technologist use. It uses
rectangular gating, and is intuitive to use. To use this program, the
FCS must have the extension, *.bin as "54203023.bin" as an example.
The *.bin extension is what the computer uses to locate the files on
the computer.

THANK YOU FOR YOU TIME

MITCHELL HAYNES

VP
SALES

KANECKI
ASSOCIATES

832-347-1669

THIS WAS J PAUL ROBINSON RESPONSE TO THE INFORMATION SENT

Re: Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
Flow
Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR...Standard Header|Full
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September 28, 2007 9:37:32 AM To:mitchell haynes
Cc:da...@kanecki2.com; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Steve
what is this email - it came to me with Bob Murphy's name associated
with it. It seems to be an advertisement, this junk mail, and it
seems
to have been modified by you ...

So I guess I am confused. was this sent to the list, or do you have
an
details about it - i am concerned about these junk messages going out
to
our members, - if they are using our lists, I will deal with them
appropriately, but I am not happy about this - any info you can give
me
appreciated

thanks

paul

WHILE BEING SHOCKED BY THIS MAIL...MITCHELL HAYNES VP.KANECKI
ASSOCIATES INC....WROTE BACK

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AFTER THAT MESSAGE J PAUL ROBINSON RESPONDED WITH OUT REASON!

----- Original Message ----

From: "j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu"

<j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>

To: mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com>

Cc: j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:26:51 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING
INFORMATION
TO
PROPER CHANNELS

Sorry, I think it is junk mail

regards

paul robinson

After this message Kanecki Associates Inc. JOINED many Forums in
which
the MESSAGES WITH THE NAME OF THE SOFTWARE AS RELAYED.....JUST ABOUT
ALL FORUMS DELETED INFORMATION POSTED ABOUT THE
SOFTWARE...FURTHERMOORE...BEING REMOVED AND BANNED FROM FORUMS....

VERY CONFUSED ABOUT ALL THE TALK OF OTHER SOFTWARE THE LAUNCHED
QUESTIONS ON YAHOO..?

WHY DO FORUMS ALLOW THE CONVERSATION OF ONE SOFTWARE AND NOT
ANOTHER..

WHY DO FLOW CYTOMETRY COMPANIES CHARGE LICENSE FEES?

THEN SOMEONE SENT A LINK TO THE PURDUE MAIL LIST BUT IT WAS NOT TO
THE
FRONT BUT BACK ROUTE...WHEN  VIEWED ALL THE REASONS WERE EASY TO
SEE...........

J PAUL ROBINSON HAD A LOT OF POWER AND INFLUENCE IN THE FLOW
COMMUNITY...

FURTHER MOORE EVERY PROGRAMMER THAT HAS SOFTWARE ON THE MARKET WENT
TROUGH THE MAIL LIST SINCE 1992 AND ALL HAD THEIR OWN SOFTWARE FOR
SALE ON THE PERDUE SITE.....THE POST IN THE MAIL LIST ARE UNFILTERED
AND WERE******* NOT WHAT THE REST OF THE LIST HAD ACCESS TO...ONCE
POST STARTED GOING UP THE SITE WAS BLOCKED... SINCE THEN BOTH SITES
HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN FOR THE MAIL LIST!

WITH THE MARKET BEING VERY SMALL IN FLOW SOFTWARE IT IS EASY TO
CONTROL....

KANECKI ASSOCIATES POSTED A BLOG  WITH THE LINK TO THE BACK ROUTE TO
THE MAIL LIST AND GOT IMMEDIATE RESPONCE...

WHEN MITCHELL HAYNES DISCOVERED THE LINK HE STARTED POSTING THE
DISCOVERY UP ON MIS.HEALTH AIDS THROUGH :::GOOGLE::: AS FOR*****
GOOGLE*****IS THE ONLY SITE NOT FILTERING THE MAIL....

FINALLY A THE MESSAGES WERE SEEN AND SINCE THEY CAME FROM THE MAIL
LIST POSTINGS  THEY WERE NOT PRETTY....

ALL FILES WERE DOWNLOADED FROM THE MAIL LIST AND THE DISCUSSIONS FROM
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT PERTAINED WITH  A BUNCH OF SOFTWARE MARKETING...
NON FILTERED....WAS DISCOVERED..FURTHERMOORE THEY TALKED ABOUT
BLOCKING COMMERCIAL MARKETING LAUGHING WHILE THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR
PRODUCTS..WITH SIGNS OF :) GREAT JOKE!

AFTER THE MESSAGE FINALLY GOT THROUGH J PAUL ROBINSON WAS QUESTIONED!

THIS IS THE QUESTION AND ANSWER....HE WOLD JUST FURTHER THE LIES...!

AFTER LARRY FARELL RECEIVED THE POST PLACED BELOW WITH INFORMATION
OFF THE MAIL LIST A MESSAGE WAS SENT TO J PAUL ROBINSON ONCE
AGAIN......

J PAUL ROBINSON REPLIED ONE MORE TIME WITH MORE INSULTS CALLING
KANECKI ASSOCIATES WERE UP TO A SCAM AND THAT KANECKI ASSOCIATES
WROTE
SOME SOFTWARE AND THEY THINK ITS ANTS IN THE PANTS...HE STATES HE
CHALLANGED KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC...THE FACT IS HE NEVER CHALLENGED
OR
QUESTIONED ANYTHING....HE JUST INSULTED AND PASSED BY
EVERYTHING...FURTHERING WITH LIABLE....

THERE IS NO SCAM AND NEVER WAS A SCAM...IF YOU FOLLOW ALL THE EMAIL
AND RESPONSES YOU WILL SEE EXACTLY WHAT WENT ON.

THE MAIL LIST IS EXPOSED AND HAS BEEN REMOVE AND PLACED BACK UP..FOR
THE LAST 3 DAYS.... IF YOU GOOGLE::::FLOW CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE YOU WILL
SEE ALL POST..THE POST  ONLY CONTAIN INFORMAION PASTED FROM THE MAIL
LIST DISCUSSIONS...

PLEASE READ ALL THE MAIL LIST POST AND FOLLOW...KANECKI ASSOCIATES
INC. IS NOT A SCAM OR DO THEY HAVE ANTS IN THE PANTS SOFTWARE...THE
MAIL IS NOT JUNK MAIL AND THIS IS NOT A JOKE...IT MUST COME TO A END!

TO MUCH ABUSED POWER MUST STOP AND NOT BE BACKED.....

PLEASE.....MAKE A DIFFERENCE!......THE WORLD SHOUD BE FAIR WITH A
OPEN
MARKET...

NO ONE PERSON SHOULD CONTROL A MARKET AND SET ALL THE RULES.

STOP THE SYSTEM FROM SIFTING THROUGH THE MESSAGES SO OTHER PRODUCTS
AND NOT BE PLACED ON THE MARKET.

IF IT WAS NOT FOR GOOGLE, SIMTEL, C/NET, BEST BUY, CIRCUIT CITY, AND
OTHER CHANNELS KANECKI ASSOCIATES WOULD NOT STAND A CHANCE...SO, HOW
DOES ANYONE ELSE IF THEY WERE NO ON THE MAIL LIST!

THE ANSWER IS CLEAR..........THERE IS NOT ANYONE ELSE!  THEY WERE ALL
ON THE LIST AND STILL ARE...SINCE 1992...

Re: [Fwd: flow cytometry
software will you trust Purdue..Lets play MONOPOLY]

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J. Paul Robinson
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ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM

To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>;
skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Larry

Sorry you are experiencing a problem

From the header - This is apparently coming from a Mitchel Haynes

mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com>
- is this correct?

I initially thought messages coming from this person were a scam and

challenged them when they started posting to our list as well. I had

someone do a check on them. it is apparent that they have written
some

software and they think its ants-pants. They have tried to post
things

on the Purdue list, they have used every possible website and email

discussion group to get cross listed to boost their ratings on
Google.

Basically I view their behavior as very tenuous and from the message
you

sent me, it appears that it is not appropriate to do what they are
doing...

I have taken the following action:

1. Steve Kelley has been instructed to remove their email and any

postings on the Purdue list. They are now banned

2. I am going to Copying Bartek Rajwa the editor of the ISAC site to

beware of them

3. I am contacting Google and other sites to let
them know that these

people are self-propagating links.

4. If I see any message that in any way impunes Purdue or our

reputation, I will go after them with every possible legal recourse
at

my disposal. We will not allow our reputation to suffer because of

commercial abuse.

5. You should ban this address, and basically indicate to your
members

that this is a scam. While they claim to be legitimate, they are
acting

exactly as any scam artist...I already told them that they were
acting

as scammers and they got upset with me...well, if they don't desist,

they will find out how much influence we actually have...

I will check the message

MONOPOLY

and see if this is actually libelous - it appears to be - and if it
is,

I will close this person down really, really fast!!! (Steve please
check

out this message and make a copy)

Larry, we have about 3000 people on the Purdue discussion list which
is

primarily about cytometry - and a lot of flow cytometry - to join,

people actually have to go through me, and we review every person who

comes on.

I am sorry you are experiencing this problem, and we are happy to
help

in any way we can.

regards

paul Robinson

Professor, Purdue

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----- Forwarded Message ----

From: mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com>

To: skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Cc: skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:39:02 AM

Subject: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING INFORMATION TO
PROPER
CHANNELS

Dear Paul,

I recieved your responce to the
email I sent. Please understand it is not junkmail but a update on
new
technology that will inhance all flowcytometers..It is currently
being
evaluated by BD who request for this software to be developed
directly
by our
corporation.

It was simply sent as an
announcement for you concideration.

The software is demonstrates
precision and a higer processing rate than every existing software
today.

If you have any questions please
call I provided my phone number with the email. I understand
institutions of
your caliber is always looking for new technology. Futhermoore this
is
the only
software in the world that works for every platform on one peice of
software

Thank your for you time and have a
great day.

Please do not blame Steve for send
the information to the proper channels I would think you would be
upset if he
did not foward important infomation that pertains to furthering
cytometry
breakthroughs.

If you would like us to send
information to another address that won't interfer please foward it
to
me and I
will make sure that there are no more misunderstandings.

Mitchell Haynes

MESSAGE SENT FROM J Paul Robinson

Re: [Fwd: flow cytometry
software will you trust Purdue..Lets play MONOPOLY]

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J. Paul Robinson
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ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM

To:Larry Farrell <farrl...@isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybro...@yahoo.com>;
skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
ra...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Larry

Sorry you are experiencing a problem

From the header - This is apparently coming from a Mitchel Haynes

mitchell haynes <buybro...@yahoo.com>
- is this correct?

I initially thought messages coming from this person were a scam and

challenged them when they started posting to our list as well. I had

someone do a check on them. it is apparent that they have written
some

software and they think its ants-pants. They have tried to post
things

on the Purdue list, they have used every possible website and email

discussion group to get cross listed to boost their ratings on
Google.

Basically I view their behavior as very tenuous and from the message
you

sent me, it appears that it is not appropriate to do what they are
doing...

I have taken the following action:

1. Steve Kelley has been instructed to remove their email and any

postings on the Purdue list. They are now banned

2. I am going to Copying Bartek Rajwa the editor of the ISAC site to

beware of them

3. I am contacting Google and other sites to let
them know that these

people are self-propagating links.

4. If I see any message that in any way impunes Purdue or our

reputation, I will go after them with every possible legal recourse
at

my disposal. We will not allow our reputation to suffer because of

commercial abuse.

5. You should ban this address, and basically indicate to your
members

that this is a scam. While they claim to be legitimate, they are
acting

exactly as any scam artist...I already told them that they were
acting

as scammers and they got upset with me...well, if they don't desist,

they will find out how much influence we actually have...

I will check the message

MONOPOLY

and see if this is actually libelous - it appears to be - and if it
is,

I will close this person down really, really fast!!! (Steve please
check

out this message and make a copy)

Larry, we have about 3000 people on the Purdue discussion list which
is

primarily about cytometry - and a lot of flow cytometry - to join,

people actually have to go through me, and we review every person who

comes on.

I am sorry you are experiencing this problem, and we are happy to
help

in any way we can.

regards

paul Robinson

Professor, Purdue

GLarry Farrell wrote:

on

of

JUST READ..THIS IS THE ONLY LINES THAT HAS MADE IT THROUGH FOR
KANECKI
ASSOCIATES INC...THE REST WERE DELETED..-
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OTHER  DISCUSSIONS WHEN  STUDENTS  MENTION  THINGS ABOUT THE
SOFTWARE  THAT WAS NOT LIKED THEY SHRANK THE  MESSAGE  TO MIN. SIZE

Flow Cytometry Software Companies License Fees For No Reason, Why do
we pay and pay and pay

FlowCytometryUser

Posted on Oct 27, 2007, 2:36 am         Why should we have to pay a
license
fee for FlowCytometry Software? Isn't expensive enough? Who has the
solution? The so Called Free SOFTWARE could be better since the
cytometers have advanced so much.

I would like a software that I don't have to rent from the lab for
30per hour... Please...I want to buy and own...

Any Ideas?
marcia

Posted on Oct 27, 2007, 3:46 am         This is a good question.
Have
you
posed this question to J. Paul Robinson of Purdue University.  He has
an excellent site
where Flow users discuss issues like this:
http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/
FlowCytometryUser

Posted on Oct 28, 2007, 2:45 am         Purdue promotes Flow Jo and
FCS
Express which must be licensed... I don't have time for people that
want to advise in a direction that I feel is for personal benifit!

Do they lease out thier software per hour?

There is a new Video up on aol that shows a FlowCytometrySoftware
that
looks good.

Just google flow cytometry software and look for the video
Tony Rook

Posted on Oct 29, 2007, 12:45 am
Here is a link to the Catalog of Free Flow Cytometry Software.

The original Cytometry software catalog was developed and managed by
Dr. Eric Martz for several years. In cooperation with Dr. Martz, the
site will now being managed by the Purdue University Cytometry
Laboratories.

This catalog strives to be comprehensive -- to include as much free
flow cytometry software as possible.  Some demonstrations of
commercial packages are also available.  Their goal is to provide
comprehensive educational materials in all areas of cytmetry.

For those of you interested in learning about the risks and benefits
of using Freeware, here is a link to the  Pros & Cons of Free Flow
Cytometry Software

Tony Rook

Posted on Oct 29, 2007, 12:55 am

The Windows Multiple Document Interface software (WinMDI) is freeware
designed by J. Trotter (1993-1998; trot...@scripps.edu) to analyze
flow cytometric listmode data files.

You can download this software for FREE by clicking on this link for
WinMDI Version 2.8

A free tutorial for this software is available by clicking on this
link - Introduction to WinMDI 2.8 (J. Trotter 1993-1998) for the
Analysis of Flow Cytometry Listmode Data Files

Tony Rook

Posted on Oct 29, 2007, 12:58 am
Another great resource for Flow Cytometry on the web is hosted by
Salk
Institute CCMI, La Jolla, California

Flow Cytometry on the Web
FlowCytometryUser

Posted on Oct 29, 2007, 4:33 am         I used the New Fcs Cytopro
quick facs
and it runs like a dream. The images are clear and it only took me 5
min to run the whole program.. I found the website easy since it is
listed on Cnet,Simtel,and alot of other locations.
I even saw it this morning on the NY times..
Why don't any of the schools have this software listed on thier web
sites?
I love how easy it is to use.. Im going to stick with this program
and
refer it to all my friend.

I prefer not to take risks of problems that can happen with the free
software.. I can afford 150.00.

Here is where I found the software
http://www.kanecki.com/flowF.html

http://www.mp3.com/users/FLOWCYTOMETRY/profile.php

THE FACT IS EVERYONE IN THE FLOW COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH PERDUE MAIL
LIST AND SEEMS TO BE A MUST TO BE CONSIDERED. SO KANECKI ASSOCIATES
INC WENT THROUGH C/NET,SIMTEL,BEST BUY,CIRCUITCITY,AND ALL OTHER
MAJOR
DOWNLOAD SITES TO BREAK THE CHAIN AND GIVE THE WORLD A
CHANCE.....DON'T WAIST YOUR TIME IF YOUR A NEW SOFTWARE PROVIDER
SENDING IT TO PERDUE..UNLESS YOU WENT THROUGHT THE SOFTWARE BUILDING
PROCESS WITH MR.ROBINSON.
TOO MUCH POWER FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE.

THE CHAIN OF INFLUENCE MUST BE BROKEN.. GOOD THING IM NOT HIS
STUDENT....I WOULD BE SUSPENDED BY NOW.

Re: Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
Flow
Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR...Standard Header|Full
Message View J. Paul Robinson J. Paul Robinson ... ViewFriday,
September 28, 2007 9:37:32 AM To:mitchell haynes
Cc:da...@kanecki2.com; skel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Steve
what is this email - it came to me with Bob Murphy's name associated
with it. It seems to be an advertisement, this junk mail, and it
seems
to have been modified by you ...

So I guess I am confused. was this sent to the list, or do you have
an
details about it - i am concerned about these junk messages going out
to
our members, - if they are using our lists, I will deal with them
appropriately, but I am not happy about this - any info you can give
me
appreciated

thanks

paul

WE WISH WE WERE ON YOUR FRONT PAGE....WE JUST MISSED THE MAILING LIST

http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/1997/subject.htm

THIS IS A GREAT YEAR TO START YOUR REVIEW FREE OPEN RECORD...IM SURE
YOU WILL FIND IT INTERESTING....YOU CAN CHANGE EACH YEAR /1998/ TO /
1999/-2007

GREAT READING!

SO, HERE IS THE LINK TO PERDUE..WHY DO THEY MARKET SOFTWARE FROM THE
SITE?

WHO IS TONY ROOK?

HE HAD 4 RESPONCES ON THE TOPIC PUSHING PERDUE..DO YOU STAND A REAL
CHANCE.
FACE MOST TALK OF SOFTWARE NOT ON THE PERDUE LIST WILL GET KICKED OUT
OF FORUMS..

THANK GOD FOR GOOGLE! WITH OUT SOME OF THE BIG COMPANIES LIKE GOOGLE
THE LITTLE MAN WOULD GET STOMPED

THANK YOU GOOGLE ONCE AGAIN THIS IS WHY GOOGLE LEADS THE
MARKET.....GOT MY VOTE

THE LINK  WILL UNCOVER ALL UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IF IT STAYS UP!  WHY
HAVE TO ENTRANCES TO THE MAIL LIST DISCUSSIONS?

http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/1997/subject.htm

HERE IS THE FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11

NO COMPENSATION JUST PURE RESULTS

NOT JUNK MAIL

NOT SCAMMERS

NOT ANTS IN THE PANTS