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zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 17 Jan 2008 08:23 GMT
f.ck PURDUE
Martin - 17 Jan 2008 09:32 GMT
>f.ck PURDUE

Purdue University?

<http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/2006/060802.Ghosh.HIV.html>:

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Doctors have their first FDA-approved tool to treat drug-resistant HIV
thanks to a new molecule created by a Purdue University researcher.

"There are many treatments for AIDS on the market, but none are able
to combat drug resistance," said Arun Ghosh (pronounced A-rune GO-sh),
a professor with a dual appointment in the departments of chemistry
and medicinal chemistry and molecular pharmacology. "This is the first
treatment that is effective against the growing number of
drug-resistant strains of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. The problem
is widespread."

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Yes, this professional HIV nutter is talking here about "treatments
for AIDS."  There seems to be a lot of confusion in the US, and
elsewhere, about HIV and AIDS.  And a deliberate attempt to merge the
two, hence HIV/AIDS.

Why?  Because AIDS isn't contagious and HIV doesn't kill.

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Earlier research shows that almost half of patients with the human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) who initially respond to treatment
develop drug-resistant strains and stop responding to treatment within
eight to 10 months, he said.

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.  According to the nutty professor HIV
wonder treatments fail almost half of patients who take them within a
year.

There is a theory that the perceived positive effect killer HIV drug
cocktails have on CD4 levels is simply a response to poisoning the
body.
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Death - 17 Jan 2008 16:46 GMT
"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message

> Yes, this professional HIV nutter is talking here about "treatments
> for AIDS."  There seems to be a lot of confusion in the US, and
> elsewhere, about HIV and AIDS.  And a deliberate attempt to merge the
> two, hence HIV/AIDS.
>
> Why?  Because AIDS isn't contagious and HIV doesn't kill.

A true but misleading statement.
AIDS OIs are or can be contagious.
We can use HIV+TB (AIDS) as an example.

HIV does not kill until you get an OI as well (AIDS).
HIV + pneumonia is another deadly combo (AIDS)

I understood your point tho.
Mitch Haynes - 17 Jan 2008 18:23 GMT
> "Martin" <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I understood your point tho.

When AZT came out it was available but not covered by insurance. Thus
people who needed it had to make a choice between living expenses or
the drug treatment.
Although some treatments may fail half patients in 1 year it is still
worth to the patient to have the extra time of life.
We hope that PURDUE would help push all VALID alt. through not just
for self interest...There are lots they know or is it just for PROFIT?
Death - 18 Jan 2008 03:07 GMT
> > "Martin" <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message
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> people who needed it had to make a choice between living expenses or
> the drug treatment.

People make those choices every day for a variety
of reasons. Some brought about through risky behavior
some through sh.t happens.

Free health care is dragging countries down quicker
than a cat can lick its a.s.

> Although some treatments may fail half patients in 1 year it is still
> worth to the patient to have the extra time of life.

That decision was made years before they got sick.
The decision to engage in faggot behavior or to use
IV drugs with someone HIV positive.

> We hope that PURDUE would help push all VALID alt. through not just
> for self interest...There are lots they know or is it just for PROFIT?

After 25 years of HIV little is known. No one is interested
in a cure, just treatment, and that is where the profit is.
Who generates that profit, at risk groups, faggots, IV drug
ab-users, niggers and women who f.ck them.
zzzxtreme@gmail.com - 18 Jan 2008 08:19 GMT
im in the middle of hiv/aids establishment and alternative/denialist
therapy

it is so easy for you to talk, use the words "Faggots", "niggers" as
im sure you are not hiv positive

i may agree or i may not agree , but that's not the point

BUT PLEASE, USE YOUR REAL NAME AND EMAIL IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS , YOU
FAGGOT

sincerely
hiv positive guy

> "Martin" <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I understood your point tho.
Martin - 20 Jan 2008 23:25 GMT
>im in the middle of hiv/aids establishment and alternative/denialist
>therapy

I don't think it's possible to be an HIV or AIDS "denialist" and at
the same time use alternative therapies to treat the conditions.

And I would be a hypocrite if I used any treatments for HIV while
denying its existence.

>it is so easy for you to talk, use the words "Faggots", "niggers" as
>im sure you are not hiv positive

Those words aren't used exclusively by people who are HIV-. :)
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Death - 21 Jan 2008 01:42 GMT
"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk>

something I found for you.....

Health/Science
Fri, Jan. 18, 2008
Experts call for rethinking AIDS money
By MARIA CHENG
AP Medical Writer

LONDON --In the two decades since AIDS began sweeping the globe, it has
often been labeled as the biggest threat to international health.

But with revised numbers downsizing the pandemic - along with an admission
that AIDS peaked in the late 1990s - some AIDS experts are now wondering if
it might be wise to shift some of the billions of dollars of AIDS money to
basic health problems like clean water, family planning or diarrhea.

"If we look at the data objectively, we are spending too much on AIDS,"
said Dr. Malcolm Potts, an AIDS expert at the University of California,
Berkeley, who once worked with prostitutes on the front lines of the
epidemic in Ghana.

Problems like malnutrition, pneumonia and malaria kill more children in
Africa than AIDS.

"We are programmed to react quickly to small children with AIDS in
distress," Potts said. "Unfortunately, we don't have that same reaction
when looking at statistics that tell us what we should be spending on."

The world invests about $8 billion to $10 billion in AIDS every year, more
than 100 times what it spends on water projects in developing countries.
Yet more than 2 billion people do not have access to adequate sanitation,
and about 1 billion lack clean water.

In a recent series in the journal Lancet, experts wrote that more than
one-third of child deaths and 11 percent of the total disease burden
worldwide are due to mothers and children not getting enough to eat - or
not getting enough nutritional food.

"We have a system in public health where the loudest voice gets the most
money," said Dr. Richard Horton, editor of Lancet. "AIDS has grossly
distorted our limited budget."

But some AIDS experts argue that cutting back on fighting HIV would be
dangerous.

"We cannot let the pendulum swing back to a time when we didn't spend a lot
on AIDS," said Dr. Kevin De Cock, director of the AIDS department at the
World Health Organization. "We now have millions of people on treatment and
we can't just stop that."

Still, De Cock once worked on AIDS projects in Kenya, his office just above
a large slum.

"It did feel a bit peculiar to be investing so much money into
anti-retrovirals while the people there were dealing with huge problems
like water and sanitation," De Cock said.

Part of the issue is advocacy, from celebrity ambassadors to red ribbons.

"No one is beating the drum for basic health problems," said Daniel
Halperin, an AIDS expert at Harvard University's School of Public Health.

Aside from southern Africa, most of the continent has relatively low rates
of HIV, and much higher rates of easily treatable diseases like diarrhea
and respiratory illnesses. Yet much of the money from the West, especially
from the United States, goes into AIDS.

Halperin recently wrote a commentary in The New York Times on the imbalance
and said he was astounded by the response. Most were positive, he said,
with many AIDS experts agreeing it was time to re-examine spending.

Most AIDS officials say the solution is to boost the budget for all of
public health.

"Why does the public health budget have to be so limited?" asked Tom
Coates, a professor of global AIDS research at the University of
California, Los Angeles. "Let's not drag AIDS care and prevention down to
the level of every other disease, but let's bring everything else up to the
level of AIDS."

That may be wishful thinking.

"At the end of the day, there are limits to how big the public health pie
can be," Halperin said.

Since the discovery of anti-retrovirals to fight HIV in the 1990s, AIDS has
virtually become a chronic, treatable disease in the West. But the disease
has not been conquered so easily in Africa. Not only are the AIDS drugs too
expensive for most patients, but major problems in the health system need
to be fixed first.

"It's hard to get Western donors to listen," said Dr. Richard Wamai, a
Kenyan doctor at Harvard's School of Public Health.

Wamai said that some African health systems are so weak they cannot absorb
the donations, and AIDS drugs are sometimes left in warehouses because
governments cannot distribute them.

Still, "trying to redirect AIDS money will take a long time," Wamai said.
"It's a bit like trying to stop an ocean liner."
 
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