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HIV: nameing and shaming

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Martin - 09 Dec 2007 20:25 GMT
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A decade ago, Chautauqua County health authorities made history by
making public the name of a living carrier of HIV — turning Nushawn
Williams, a 20- year-old drug dealer, into a poster boy for the AIDS
epidemic.

Williams became a symbol for a disease spread by a million bad
choices, reckless sex and careless drug use. Part of his infamy was
based on unproven accusations that are dubious in retrospect: that he
was a deliberate infector, a twisted Johnny Appleseed of AIDS.

The truth was bad enough: Thirteen of his sex partners — girls and
young women — were infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
Seven were infected after Williams was told he carried the virus.

[...]

The reason Nushawn Williams was tested, in August 1996, was because
the Chautauqua County public health system worked.

A woman who had tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease,
asked to identify her partners, had named Williams. A county public
health worker tracked Williams down at his Jamestown apartment.

Williams described the experience in an autobiographical manuscript
given to Thomas Shevory, an Ithaca College professor and author of
“Notorious H.I.V.,” a book about the Williams case.

“I didn’t feel like I had HIV,” Williams wrote. “I felt good. So I
went back to selling crack and making money and meeting different
ladies.”

The health worker did persuade him to get tested, though. On Sept. 6,
1996, while in the county jail, Williams was told of the results,
according to Dr. Robert Berke, the county health commissioner. Berke
swore in an affidavit that during the conversation, Williams told the
health care worker he was going to have sex with as many women as he
wanted.

Shevory said when he interviewed him in prison, Williams denied being
informed of his condition.

“There’s no written record of him getting the news,” or the counseling
that is supposed to be mandatory when people are told they have HIV,
Shevory noted.

Williams did later plead guilty to reckless endangerment, agreeing he
had been told, and told a psychiatrist the same thing, Shevory wrote
in “Notorious H.I.V.”

Denial is a common reaction to HIV news, especially in a person as
outwardly healthy as Williams, Shevory said. Still, “I don’t think
there’s any evidence he deliberately tried to infect people,” he said.
Williams, who is now 31 and has changed his name to Shyteek Johnson,
declined requests for an interview for this story.

The scare fades

The lurid accusations became national news 10 years ago, with Williams
portrayed as a deadly predator who might be responsible for scores of
infections. In Jamestown, during the months following the
announcement, about 1,400 people, mostly high school students and
young adults, stood in line to be tested for HIV.

With HIV infection still considered a death sentence by many in 1997,
commentators raced to top each other in calling for punishment. Life
in prison, said then-Gov. George Pataki. No — the death penalty,
Montel Williams suggested on his television show.

Of the 1,400 tested in Jamestown, one infected person was found. The
health scare died down.

As far as health officials know, none of the 13 women infected by
Williams saw her health deteriorate into AIDS, and none has died.

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Yes, that's right.  Ten years later the fourteen people mentioned in
this article are still healthy and living well, despite being
diagnosed HIV+.

No wonder the life expectancy of people diagnosed HIV+ is constantly
being increased.
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DavidT - 10 Dec 2007 11:26 GMT
A nice illustration of how HIV can spread.

Those infected (all young, and likely to progress more slowly than an
older person with HIV) are likely as not under prospective medical
followup and those who have shown lab signs of any immune deficiency
will ahve started antiretrovirals. It's no wonder they are still all
OK. It's the undiagnosed HIVs who present late who get into problems.
Martin - 10 Dec 2007 16:50 GMT
>A nice illustration of how HIV can spread.

As you're someone who posts from the depths of the UK's National
Health Service, it's hardly surprising you're a supporter of the HIV
myth.

>Those infected (all young, and likely to progress more slowly than an
>older person with HIV) are likely as not under prospective medical
>followup and those who have shown lab signs of any immune deficiency
>will ahve started antiretrovirals. It's no wonder they are still all OK.

Bzzzt.  Repetition!

> It's the undiagnosed HIVs who present late who get into problems.

Presumably because the medical profession can't see past the HIV
diagnosis, and pump the patient full of poisons.  Perhaps the young
are better able to cope with them.

With the number of HIV infections in the UK forever creeping upwards,
and one third of those estimated to be 'infected' unaware of their
'condition' and many more not taking any HIV wonder-pills, wouldn't
you expect the number of AIDS cases and deaths to be increasing if
HIV=AIDS was a reality?
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DavidT - 16 Dec 2007 11:47 GMT
> With the number of HIV infections in the UK forever creeping upwards,
> and one third of those estimated to be 'infected' unaware of their
> 'condition' and many more not taking any HIV wonder-pills, wouldn't
> you expect the number of AIDS cases and deaths to be increasing if
> HIV=AIDS was a reality?

So you admit that there are increasing numbers of HIV patients being
diagnosed, and relatively fewer patients are developing AIDS. The
number of HIV patients on therapy with antiretrovirals is also
increasing.

So lets look at the 2 competing theories:
1) Treatment with HAART delays or prevents progression to AIDS.
2) Treatment with HAART is a toxic poison, causing patients to develop
"AIDS" and die.

Which of these 2 opposed theories is likelier, given the information
you give for the UK?
(I'll give you a clue - It's not the second one.)
dank - 12 Dec 2007 17:37 GMT
Martin wrote (quoting article)...
> The health worker did persuade him to get tested, though. On Sept. 6,
> 1996, while in the county jail, Williams was told of the results,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that is supposed to be mandatory when people are told they have HIV,
> Shevory noted.

But there is a written record.  Somewhere there is a canceled check for
the $500 paid to the person who "counseled" him and gave him a brochure
advising him to wear a condom.  He really may not have received any
"counseling," but the service certainly was billed to the government.

I assume the "counselor" is required to keep proper documentation in
exchange for his steady stream of $500 checks, so unless the idiot who
"counseled" him can provide a signed document or video recording of
Nushawn Williams receiving his brochure, then his conviction should be
thrown out in the interests of justice.
 
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