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Why Vaccination Continues
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JOHN - 29 Nov 2007 22:03 GMT Why Vaccination Continues
1. Professional http://www.whale.to/a/allopathy_h.html 2. Pecuniary a) Income and research http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money1.html b) The vast income treating vaccine disease like asthma http://www.whale.to/vaccines/diseases.html http://www.whale.to/a/vax_dis.html 3. Vaccine genocide http://www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html 4. Sterilisation http://www.whale.to/m/sterile.html 5. Mind control a) Baptism into Atheistic Church of Allopathy http://www.whale.to/vaccines/god.html b) The propaganda value is incalculable. The smalllpox saved millions lie http://www.whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html and vaccines are effective lie http://www.whale.to/a/lie_effective.html is what props up the rest of the pharma hoax, and lets them get away with the evidence-based-medicine lie http://www.whale.to/a/evidence_based.html 6. Implants http://www.whale.to/b/vaccine_imp.html
Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in more detail http://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html
drceephd@insightbb.com - 30 Nov 2007 01:50 GMT > Why Vaccination Continues > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in > more detailhttp://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html Dang John. It may take me two weeks or more to sift through all this valid health information.
Nice work. Thanks a lot.
DrCee Not a pharma shill Not a member of the medical monopoly Not a member of the church of modern medicine.
HCN - 30 Nov 2007 15:01 GMT > Why Vaccination Continues > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 4. Sterilisation http://www.whale.to/m/sterile.html > 5. Mind control a) Baptism into Atheistic Church of Allopathy Funnny coming from the whale.to guy with his perpetual webpages of selective quotes! ... one wonders what kind of brain damage was caused by the psychedelics he mentions in the following...
He also claims that satanic black lines burned his bum! From http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my a.s on it some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "
Not a very reliable source... Comments about John Scudamore in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationists/Individuals include "a large and slightly sorted collection of conspiracy theory save the whale, illuminati, weird "science" and stuff which is not corrected to reflect demonstrated mistakes."
> http://www.whale.to/vaccines/god.html > b) The propaganda value is incalculable. The smalllpox saved millions lie [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in > more detail http://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html David - 30 Nov 2007 15:20 GMT > "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message Money
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 01:30 GMT >> "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message > > Money Yes, you are correct. Vaccines tend to save money overall. There are real cost savings in preventing disease. The use of vaccines cuts down in hospitalization with their inherent costs (nursing care, doctor time, medications, support equipment), and lost days due to illness.
http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf
CONCLUSIONS: In general, as a therapeutic class, vaccines are extremely cost-effective agents. In addition, they are one of the few public health interventions that may directly lower medical costs. In conducting pharmacoeconomic analyses for agents in this class, researchers must consider costs incurred at both the health system and societal levels, as well as cost savings realized through the prevention of disease.
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 02:08 GMT >> "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message > > Money In other words: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Vaccines save money by preventing disease... and also further disabilities. Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, blindness and other diabilities.
Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 02:13 GMT > Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, > blindness and other diabilities. Now vaccines are.
> >> "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, > blindness and other diabilities. HCN - 02 Dec 2007 18:47 GMT >> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, >> blindness and other diabilities. > > Now vaccines are. Evidence?
Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more. Hib had a even higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.
If you have evidence that vaccines are dangerous in those numbers, please present them. You may also wish to forward your findings to the authors and publishers of this article: http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf
>> >> "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, >> blindness and other diabilities. Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 18:55 GMT > Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more. Hib had a even > higher mortality rate, and disabled many children. 1 out of a thousand who catch the measles die from complications. How do we know the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they treated the child with?
Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions? Give me a damn break!
> >> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness, > >> blindness and other diabilities. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - drceephd@insightbb.com - 02 Dec 2007 19:32 GMT > > Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more. Hib had a even > > higher mortality rate, and disabled many children. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions? > Give me a damn break! Ah, such is the beauty of being a doctor. No one checks for your errors and you should never admit to making one. Scientists correct their mistakes. Mathmeticians erase their mistakes. Doctors merely bury their mistakes....and still send you a bill.
Anyone who strays from the fold is discredited and vilianized. Take Sydenham of England. To him, smallpox was a most mild and non-lifethreatening disease...except for the mischeif of the doctor or nurse. He was the Hippocrates of England. He favored given his patients cooling drinks and fresh air, losing few, if any smallpox patients. His allopathic brothers feared the air and water. They practiced the giving of drugs and sweating the disease killing up to 8 of 10 patients. Did the other docs correct their errors. Nope. They wanted to kill Sydenham.
The practice of allopathic medicine is still the same today, even more to be feared due to big pharma and all the politicians and judges they have bought. You have more to fear from your doctor, your legislator, and the local judge than any disease you may have.
DrCee Not a pharma shill Not a member of the medical monopoly Not a member of the church of modern medicine
Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 23:58 GMT > Scientists correct their mistakes. > Mathmeticians erase their mistakes. > Doctors merely bury their mistakes....and still send you a bill. I am so greatful that you are here fighting against the fraud and corruption. I would have to say this group of pharma shills are the pitbulls of the shills.
Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!
Donna
On Dec 2, 2:32 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:
> > > Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more. Hib had a even > > > higher mortality rate, and disabled many children. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Not a member of the medical monopoly > Not a member of the church of modern medicine Mark Probert - 03 Dec 2007 04:59 GMT > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! Thank you.
Mercury.Sailor - 04 Dec 2007 14:39 GMT > > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! > > Thank you. LMAO!! You damn well I wasnt talking about you!
> > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! > > Thank you. Mark Probert - 06 Dec 2007 03:34 GMT >>> Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! >> Thank you. > > LMAO!! You damn well I wasnt talking about you! I am truly shocked that you would say that. There is no question that my heart rules my conscience, since I prefer living children to dead children, unlike your anti-vac liar sociopaths buddies.
The One True Zhen Jue - 10 Dec 2007 23:55 GMT > > Scientists correct their mistakes. > > Mathmeticians erase their mistakes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! Thank you, but it doesn't mean very much coming from an anti-vac liar.
> Donna > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Kevysmom - 11 Dec 2007 01:55 GMT > > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience! > > Thank you, but it doesn't mean very much coming from an anti-vac liar. My only wish for you is....... :o)
On Dec 10, 6:55 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Scientists correct their mistakes. > > > Mathmeticians erase their mistakes. [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > - Show quoted text - HCN - 03 Dec 2007 03:57 GMT >> Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more. Hib had a even >> higher mortality rate, and disabled many children. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they > treated the child with? I don't know... you tell us with some actual evidence. Something that has real verifiable numbers and is all sciency and stuff.
> Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions? Actually it only killed about a 100 per year, and did cause pain.
> Give me a damn break! > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - D. C. Sessions - 09 Dec 2007 00:55 GMT > 1 out of a thousand who catch the measles die from complications. How > do we know > the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they > treated the child with? While you're grasping at straws, why not do as John does and include the evil influences of malign astrological influences? Or was it earth radiation? Ley lines? Pyramid power? Don't forget the chemtrails.
It could take forever to rule all of them out, so in the meantime it's best to not let your children breathe.
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Peter Bowditch - 30 Nov 2007 23:23 GMT >Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. Ah, yes. The famous Dr Guylaine Lanctot, who is possibly the most insane anti-vaccination liar that the cess pit has yet produced.
Vaccination is a biological weapon at the service of biological warfare. It permits the targeting of people of a certain race, and leaves the others who are close by more or less untouched. Vaccination enables the selection of populations to be decimated. It facilitates targeted genocide. It permits one to kill people of a certain race, a certain group, a certain country. And to leave others untouched. In the name of health and well-being, of course. Guylaine Lanctot, M.D.
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2003/09september.htm#6asylum
Vaccination is a biological weapon at the service of biological warfare. It permits the targeting of people of a certain race, and leaves the others who are close by more or less untouched. It makes it possible to intervene in the hereditary lineage of anyone selected. A new speciality is born. Genetic engineering. It is flourishing, enjoys much prestige, and is receiving substantial research funds.(*) The challenge is staggering. To find a vaccine which gives an illness against which we already have the vaccine! In this way, we would be able to send in troops who have already been vaccinated against the killer vaccine, which they would then spread among the enemy. It is absolutely crazy and insane!
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2003/08august.htm#15vax
(*) There are at least 50 places on the web where this is quoted as "research hinds", which is obviously a problem of character recognition from a scan. Fifty different web sites! Those anti-vaccination liars sure hate to do any individual research, don't they? If one liar says it it most be true, so let's just copy it.
These turds don't just steal from each other. The classic of anti-vaccination liar cut-and-paste was a page where the list of liar sites at http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm had been copied. I found this by accident because there was a JavaScript error on the liar's page and I looked at the page source to see what the problem was. What I saw was several broken links to the image I use in my site listings to indicate that there is an associated commentary.
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JOHN - 02 Dec 2007 12:41 GMT http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 18:48 GMT > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure:
http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf
Whale.to guy claims that satanic black lines burned his bum! From http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my a.s on it some years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a chemical burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were unscathed apart from a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I had been given a metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "
Not a very reliable source... Comments about John Scudamore in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationists/Individuals include "a large and slightly sorted collection of conspiracy theory save the whale, illuminati, weird "science" and stuff which is not corrected to reflect demonstrated mistakes."
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