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JOHN - 29 Nov 2007 22:03 GMT
Why Vaccination Continues

1. Professional http://www.whale.to/a/allopathy_h.html
2. Pecuniary a) Income and research http://www.whale.to/vaccines/money1.html
b) The vast income treating vaccine disease like asthma
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/diseases.html
http://www.whale.to/a/vax_dis.html
3. Vaccine genocide http://www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html
4. Sterilisation http://www.whale.to/m/sterile.html
5. Mind control a) Baptism into Atheistic Church of Allopathy
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/god.html
b) The propaganda value is incalculable. The smalllpox saved millions lie
http://www.whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html  and vaccines are effective lie
http://www.whale.to/a/lie_effective.html  is what props up the rest of the
pharma hoax, and lets them get away with the evidence-based-medicine lie
http://www.whale.to/a/evidence_based.html
6. Implants http://www.whale.to/b/vaccine_imp.html

Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in
more detail http://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html
drceephd@insightbb.com - 30 Nov 2007 01:50 GMT
> Why Vaccination Continues
>
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> Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in
> more detailhttp://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html

Dang John.  It may take me two weeks or more to sift through all this
valid health information.

Nice work.  Thanks a lot.

DrCee
Not a pharma shill
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine.
HCN - 30 Nov 2007 15:01 GMT
> Why Vaccination Continues
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 4. Sterilisation http://www.whale.to/m/sterile.html
> 5. Mind control a) Baptism into Atheistic Church of Allopathy

Funnny coming from the whale.to guy with his perpetual webpages of selective
quotes! ... one wonders what kind of brain damage was caused by the
psychedelics he mentions in the following...

He also claims that satanic black lines burned his bum! From
http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my a.s on it some
years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a chemical
burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were unscathed apart from
a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I had been given a
metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

Not a very reliable source... Comments about John Scudamore in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationists/Individuals include "a
large and slightly sorted collection of conspiracy theory save the whale,
illuminati, weird "science" and stuff which is not corrected to reflect
demonstrated mistakes."

> http://www.whale.to/vaccines/god.html
> b) The propaganda value is incalculable. The smalllpox saved millions lie
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D. covers a few more in
> more detail http://www.whale.to/vaccines/lanctot.html
David - 30 Nov 2007 15:20 GMT
> "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message

Money
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 01:30 GMT
>> "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> Money

Yes, you are correct.  Vaccines tend to save money overall.  There are real
cost savings in preventing disease.  The use of vaccines cuts down in
hospitalization with their inherent costs (nursing care, doctor time,
medications, support equipment), and lost days due to illness.

http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf

CONCLUSIONS: In general, as a therapeutic class, vaccines are extremely
cost-effective agents. In addition, they are one of the few public health
interventions that may directly lower medical costs. In conducting
pharmacoeconomic analyses for agents in this class, researchers must
consider costs incurred at both the health system and societal levels, as
well as cost savings realized through the prevention of disease.
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 02:08 GMT
>> "JOHN" <john@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> Money

In other words:  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Vaccines save money by preventing disease... and also further disabilities.
Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
blindness and other diabilities.
Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 02:13 GMT
> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
> blindness and other diabilities.

Now vaccines are.

> >> "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
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> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
> blindness and other diabilities.
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 18:47 GMT
>> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
>> blindness and other diabilities.
>
> Now vaccines are.

Evidence?

Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more.  Hib had a even
higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.

If you  have evidence that vaccines are dangerous in those numbers, please
present them.  You may also wish to forward your findings to the authors and
publishers of this article:
http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf

>> >> "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>
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>> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
>> blindness and other diabilities.
Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 18:55 GMT
> Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more.  Hib had a even
> higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.

1 out of a thousand who catch the measles die from complications. How
do we know
the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they
treated the child with?

Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions?
Give me a damn break!

> >> Once upon a time measles, mumps and Hib were major causes of deafness,
> >> blindness and other diabilities.
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>
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drceephd@insightbb.com - 02 Dec 2007 19:32 GMT
> > Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more.  Hib had a even
> > higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions?
> Give me a damn break!

Ah, such is the beauty of being a doctor.
No one checks for your errors and you should never admit to making
one.
Scientists correct their mistakes.
Mathmeticians erase their mistakes.
Doctors merely bury their mistakes....and still send you a bill.

Anyone who strays from the fold is discredited and vilianized.
Take Sydenham of England.
To him, smallpox was a most mild and non-lifethreatening
disease...except for the mischeif of the doctor or nurse.
He was the Hippocrates of England.
He favored given his patients cooling drinks and fresh air, losing
few, if any smallpox patients.
His allopathic brothers feared the air and water.  They practiced the
giving of drugs and sweating the disease killing up to 8 of 10
patients.
Did the other docs correct their errors.  Nope.  They wanted to kill
Sydenham.

The practice of allopathic medicine is still the same today, even more
to be feared due to big pharma and all the politicians  and judges
they have bought.  You have more to fear from your doctor, your
legislator, and the local judge than any disease you may have.

DrCee
Not a pharma shill
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine
Kevysmom - 02 Dec 2007 23:58 GMT
> Scientists correct their mistakes.
> Mathmeticians erase their mistakes.
> Doctors merely bury their mistakes....and still send you a bill.

I am so greatful that you are here fighting against the fraud and
corruption. I would
have to say this group of pharma shills are the pitbulls of the
shills.

Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!

Donna

On Dec 2, 2:32 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:

> > > Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more.  Hib had a even
> > > higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Not a member of the medical monopoly
> Not a member of the church of modern medicine
Mark Probert - 03 Dec 2007 04:59 GMT
> Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!

Thank you.
Mercury.Sailor - 04 Dec 2007 14:39 GMT
> > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!
>
> Thank you.

LMAO!! You damn well I wasnt talking about you!

> > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!
>
> Thank you.
Mark Probert - 06 Dec 2007 03:34 GMT
>>> Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!
>> Thank you.
>
> LMAO!! You damn well I wasnt talking about you!

I am truly shocked that you would say that. There is no question that my
heart rules my conscience, since I prefer living children to dead
children, unlike your anti-vac liar sociopaths buddies.
The One True Zhen Jue - 10 Dec 2007 23:55 GMT
> > Scientists correct their mistakes.
> > Mathmeticians erase their mistakes.
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>
> Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!

Thank you, but it doesn't mean very much coming from an anti-vac liar.

> Donna
>
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Kevysmom - 11 Dec 2007 01:55 GMT
> > Peace and goodwill to those who let thier heart rule thier conscience!
>
> Thank you, but it doesn't mean very much coming from an anti-vac liar.

My only wish for you is.......  :o)

On Dec 10, 6:55 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > > Scientists correct their mistakes.
> > > Mathmeticians erase their mistakes.
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HCN - 03 Dec 2007 03:57 GMT
>> Measles kills 1 to 2 kids out of 1000, and disables more.  Hib had a even
>> higher mortality rate, and disabled many children.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they
> treated the child with?

I don't know... you tell us with some actual evidence.  Something that has
real verifiable numbers and is all sciency and stuff.

> Whats next, Chicken pox was a deadly disease that killed millions?

Actually it only killed about a 100 per year, and did cause pain.

> Give me a damn break!
>
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
D. C. Sessions - 09 Dec 2007 00:55 GMT
> 1 out of a thousand who catch the measles die from complications. How
> do we know
> the child did not die from an adverse reaction to the medication they
> treated the child with?

While you're grasping at straws, why not do as John does and
include the evil influences of malign astrological influences?
Or was it earth radiation?  Ley lines?  Pyramid power?  Don't
forget the chemtrails.

It could take forever to rule all of them out, so in the meantime
it's best to not let your children breathe.

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Peter Bowditch - 30 Nov 2007 23:23 GMT
>Why Vaccination Continues by Guylaine Lanctot, M.D.

Ah, yes. The famous Dr Guylaine Lanctot, who is possibly the most
insane anti-vaccination liar that the cess pit has yet produced.

Vaccination is a biological weapon at the service of biological
warfare. It permits the targeting of people of a certain race, and
leaves the others who are close by more or less untouched. Vaccination
enables the selection of populations to be decimated. It facilitates
targeted genocide. It permits one to kill people of a certain race, a
certain group, a certain country. And to leave others untouched. In
the name of health and well-being, of course. Guylaine Lanctot, M.D.

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2003/09september.htm#6asylum

Vaccination is a biological weapon at the service of biological
warfare. It permits the targeting of people of a certain race, and
leaves the others who are close by more or less untouched. It makes it
possible to intervene in the hereditary lineage of anyone selected. A
new speciality is born. Genetic engineering. It is flourishing, enjoys
much prestige, and is receiving substantial research funds.(*) The
challenge is staggering. To find a vaccine which gives an illness
against which we already have the vaccine! In this way, we would be
able to send in troops who have already been vaccinated against the
killer vaccine, which they would then spread among the enemy. It is
absolutely crazy and insane!

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2003/08august.htm#15vax

(*) There are at least 50 places on the web where this is quoted as
"research hinds", which is obviously a problem of character
recognition from a scan. Fifty different web sites! Those
anti-vaccination liars sure hate to do any individual research, don't
they? If one liar says it it most be true, so let's just copy it.

These turds don't just steal from each other. The classic of
anti-vaccination liar cut-and-paste was a page where the list of liar
sites at http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm had been copied.
I found this by accident because there was a JavaScript error on the
liar's page and I looked at the page source to see what the problem
was. What I saw was several broken links to the image I use in my site
listings to indicate that there is an associated commentary.

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JOHN - 02 Dec 2007 12:41 GMT
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html
HCN - 02 Dec 2007 18:48 GMT
> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/why_vaccination_continues.html

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure:

http://www.amcp.org/data/jmcp/pages%2012-15.pdf

Whale.to guy claims that satanic black lines burned his bum! From
http://www.whale.to/b/cbblack.html ... " I also burnt my a.s on it some
years back when I was experimenting with psychedelics, similar to a chemical
burn right through my trousers, where the trousers were unscathed apart from
a flattening of the cord. I thought, first, that I had been given a
metaphysical kick up the backside! Perhaps I had. "

Not a very reliable source... Comments about John Scudamore in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-vaccinationists/Individuals include "a
large and slightly sorted collection of conspiracy theory save the whale,
illuminati, weird "science" and stuff which is not corrected to reflect
demonstrated mistakes."
 
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