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'Experts' call for more HIV testing

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Martin - 26 Nov 2007 18:17 GMT
In a desperate attempt to get the number of HIV cases moving in an
upward direction again, HIV 'experts' have called for more 'HIV
testing' to be done.

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7113535.stm>:

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More than 300 European health experts are calling for earlier HIV
testing to tackle increasing infection rates.

[...]

One proposal being considered is for wider testing for people
considered to be low-risk.

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Death - 27 Nov 2007 05:08 GMT
"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message
> In a desperate attempt to get the number of HIV cases moving in an
> upward direction again, HIV 'experts' have called for more 'HIV
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> One proposal being considered is for wider testing for people
> considered to be low-risk.

An attempt to get the white heterosexual population thinking
everyone is at an equal risk.
Maxwell Hamilton - 27 Nov 2007 10:00 GMT
> In a desperate attempt to get the number of HIV cases moving in an
> upward direction again, HIV 'experts' have called for more 'HIV
> testing' to be done.
>
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7113535.stm>:
> ...

Just a remark:

"... high-profile Aids campaigns in the 1980s"

Thats interesting, SanHolo tried to tell me, the campaigns where high-profile from
the beginning of the 1990s, which made figures collapse.

Obviously absurd.

Max
Martin - 28 Nov 2007 22:08 GMT
>> In a desperate attempt to get the number of HIV cases moving in an
>> upward direction again, HIV 'experts' have called for more 'HIV
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Obviously absurd.

The whole case for HIV is absurd.

Here in the UK in the 1980s HIV was considered so important that the
government sent a leaflet to every home to terrify people about the
'virus.'

Skip ahead twenty years and we find the number of people 'diagnosed
HIV+' in the UK is tiny.

Does that mean the leafleting campaign worked and persuaded people to
'take precautions' when they have sex?  Certainly not.  The UK has one
of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the world, and STD rates are
at an all-time high.

HIV is so unimportant here that now government campaigns about 'safe
sex' don't even mention it.
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Maxwell Hamilton - 27 Nov 2007 10:24 GMT
> In a desperate attempt to get the number of HIV cases moving in an
> upward direction again, HIV 'experts' have called for more 'HIV
> testing' to be done.
>
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7113535.stm>:
> ...

The article is a classical example of misinformation. Germany's AIDS cases drop
since 1994. Since 1998 the epidemics is over and the rate of decline since 1998
stabilized at about 1.5% each year. In other words, we had about 600 cases in
1998 and we have about 500 cases per year now. This is fact (according to WHO)!

Moreover we should be aware, we can not measure the number of new infections.
We can only measure the number of positive test results. Robert-Koch-Institut (RKI)
provides the 'number of ascertained first diagnosis' but this number obviously is
not the number of new infections. What is published as 'number of new cases' is
a _very_ rough estimate. A few percent change in this very rough estimate should
not make us nervous.

The total number of HIV cases, as published by RKI is the same in 1998 as today,
thus we don't have an increase in HIV - this is fact according to the renown RKI!

So, Martin, you are perfectly right, this article is propaganda.

Max

P.S. The situation is very similar in the huge european countries.

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