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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / April 2004Drug holiday or slow suicide?
My retard of a brother with AIDS seems to have gone completely insane. I previously wrote how he's been flaking out for at least 2 years now (at least flaking out more than usual). He had a good job with great health insurance but began calling in "sick" for work way too often. His company is a hardass and often fires people simply for being 3 minutes late, but they bent over backwards to accomodate my brother because they feared a lawsuit if they fired an ADA-protected "disabled" person. But finally they couldn't take it anymore and fired him (he had been calling in "sick" at least once every week, and that was in addition to taking off a week, sometimes a month, at a time with a notes from his doctor). Anyway, I knew he was either totally insane or on drugs or both. I was right. After being prodded by our mother, he confessed to being on crystal meth. Then the other day he claimed to have had a "vision from god" that inspired him to stop using the meth. Our father wired him $100 for groceries and reconnected his telephone service, but within an hour of receiving the $100 he used it to fill up his gas tank and took off for California to visit his pet transexual nigger (with AIDS, of course). That $100 was gone within 24 hours and he phoned again to beg for more money. He kept insisting how important it was we wire him money on a Saturday night in Los Angeles, which we immediately knew would be spent within minutes at the nearest gay bar. So our father used a carrot by wiring the money for pickup in Las Vegas to get him to go home and another carrot by mailing a money order to his home address. Our mother talked to him, became convinced that he was loonier than a toon, then kept asking him if he was still taking his AIDS medication. Though he's been insisting all along that he applied for county assistance and was receiving proper treatment and medications, he finally confessed he's been off it for 5 months, and we suspect even that is probably a lie and it's been much longer. It's not for lack of coverage, he qualified for Cobra and our father even agreed to pay the premiums, and then there is the county AIDS program he was on before, and I think he also qualifies for Medicaid and then AFAIK there is a federal program that guarantees free treatment for every American with AIDS, the ONLY disease that receives such preferential treatment. He claims that he stopped taking the medication because it gave him diarrhea. That may be true, but when he went on the first cocktail 9 years ago he got diarrhea too but it eventually went away. I personally think he's given up on life. While diarrhea is unpleasant, rotting away like a decaying corpse is even more unpleasant and much more painful I imagine. He seems to have just given up on life. So we're attempting to get him home and back on treatment, if it's not too late. As I said before, this is his second set of cocktail drugs, and one had to be changed after the pharmacy filled his prescription with too low a dose pills. I'm thinking that it will be a miracle if there is another set of drugs he can use, since the previous two sets have now been ruined by viral resistance. Is it possible he can recover from this lapse in treatment or is he doomed to die a horrible death within the next year? I've also been strongly suggesting having him involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. My parents are wary of this, and I don't have the money to hire a lawyer or to fly across the country to file the papers with the court. I should mention that my brother has been hauled off to the funny farm at least twice in the past after a psychosis believed to be the result of an interaction between LSD and his AIDS meds (I did the same acid, Black Pyramid gelcaps, and suffered no ill effects). If we can have him committed, can they force him to take his AIDS medications? Finally, I'll add that I've had my own problems with crystal meth in the past. I know how bad it f.cks up your brain. It took me at least a year after quitting for the cravings to subside, and no sooner had they gone away I began going manic and psychotic and had to see a psychiatrist who put me on the antipsychotic Risperdal which cleared it up within weeks. I know it was the meth because my buddy who quit at the same time I did also flipped out within a month of me and had to be hospitalized for a month (he was also put on Risperdal). So even if my brother really is off the meth AND has the willpower to resist it, his neurotransmitter receptors have been damaged and he can probably expect a psychosis in the near future. Not taking these deadly drugs may just be the first sane thing he has done. During an 18 month trial with HAART the patients had MORE illness and LESS T cells. HAART is really HAARTLESS! *According to one Australian 'expert', the success of the protease inhibitors is "the nail in the coffin" of dissident theories. In this regard, the findings of a recent study are interesting. "To assess the long-term effects of highly active anti-retroviral therapy, we examined 3O4 anti-retroviral-experienced patients who were placed on HAART for a period of 18 months. The baseline CD4 count was 385 X lO6/1 and HIV RNA level was 3.2 log10 copies/ml. At baseline, 39 percent were classified as asymptomatic, 33 percent were symptomatic and 28 percent had an AIDS defining illness. The HAART regimens included 3-5 anti-retroviral agents at least one of which was a protease inhibitor. After 18 months, 14 percent of the population remained asymptomatic, 10 percent of which had an undetectable viral load. 39 percent were symptomatic and 47 percent of the population had an AIDS defining illness. The average CD4 count after 18 months on HAART was 301.79 X 106/1 and HIV RNA level of 3.2 log10 copies/ml. Christina M. Ramirez and Michael S. Gottlieb. California Institute of Technology. Long-term Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy in an Anti-Retroviral Experienced Population. Keystone Symposia HIV Vaccine Development: Opportunities and Challenges and AIDS Pathogenesis. January 7-13th, 1999, Keystone, Colorado. www.newsfile.com "PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote... > Not taking these deadly drugs may just be the first sane thing he has > done. > During an 18 month trial with HAART the patients had MORE illness and LESS > T cells. HAART is really HAARTLESS! Thanks for your worthless information. I am well-aware of your strange faction which insists that the HIV drugs are deadlier than the HIV virus. I still can't figure out what your agenda is, as there is no money to be made from convincing people to not take HIV drugs. Are you snake oil salesmen peddling quack remedies in competition with the real pharmaceutical industry and that's why you're so hellbent on brainwashing people into believing the pharms don't work? Or maybe you run a chain of hospices and the pharms are taking customers away from you? If there is no financial motive for your disinformation then you just must be insane. My brother was in relatively perfect health all those years he was on the HIV meds. The worst side-effect he experienced was gastrointestinal distress. I'm not saying others aren't experiencing unpleasant side- effects, but it certainly seems better than the alternative of literally rotting away, which I imagine is probably quite painful. The more I read on the subject the more I am astounded at how science has managed to tame the nastiest, most sophisticated virus ever encountered. In just 20 years medical science has gone from zero to a comprehensive understanding of how HIV and other viruses work and how to disable them using elegantly designed molecules. The AIDS death rate has dropped close to zero in the civilized world because of these new drugs. When AIDS deaths do occur, it is usually in unfortunate individuals like my brother who have not been taking their drugs properly. > "PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote... > > Not taking these deadly drugs may just be the first sane thing he has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you? If there is no financial motive for your disinformation then you > just must be insane. Hint: HIV causes brain damage. > My brother was in relatively perfect health all those years he was on > the HIV meds. The worst side-effect he experienced was gastrointestinal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > AIDS deaths do occur, it is usually in unfortunate individuals like > my brother who have not been taking their drugs properly. Well, it's debatable that HIV is the nastiest, most sophisticated virus ever encountered. HIV lacks modern evolutionary traits including DNA so it's not sophisticated, it's just well-adapted to a particular niche. It might not even be the nastiest if you consider what ebola does. The part about elegantly designed molecules that disable HIV is debatable too. At best the only disable HIV under certain circumstances. HIV's adapability can overcome them. This leaves the consumer of those elegantly designed molecules in a pickle because they are stuck taking toxic substances to partially supress a toxic virus. "Baby Peanut" <baby_p_nut2@yahoo.com> wrote... > Well, it's debatable that HIV is the nastiest, most sophisticated > virus ever encountered. HIV lacks modern evolutionary traits > including DNA so it's not sophisticated, it's just well-adapted to a > particular niche. It might not even be the nastiest if you consider > what ebola does. I previously ranted about how HIV is worse than Ebola, at least when you look at the community's view rather than the individual's. Ebola kills its victims so quickly they have little time to infect many others, plus they look extremely sick for almost the entire period between infection and death, causing others to avoid them. HIV takes up to 5 years (pre-cocktail) to kill its victims, allowing them to infect an incredible number of others before dying, AND allows them to look healthy for most of that time, until just before the end, which means there is no visual cue for others to avoid them. So from an epidemiological standpoint, HIV is far worse than Ebola. In fact, for all the hysterical media attention Ebola outbreaks get, in reality they always burn themselves out within a week or two out even without intervention from health authorties. > The part about elegantly designed molecules that disable HIV is > debatable too. At best the only disable HIV under certain > circumstances. HIV's adapability can overcome them. This leaves the > consumer of those elegantly designed molecules in a pickle because > they are stuck taking toxic substances to partially supress a toxic > virus. All the more reason to avoid contracting the virus then. While I agree that these molecular drugs are far from perfect, they are absolutely incredible given the time they were developed in. As I wrote before, science went from knowing almost nothing about HIV, or any other viruses for that matter, to a comprehensive understanding of their genome and life cycles. In slightly more than a decade from the first outbreaks, HIV infection went from being a certain death sentence to a manageable chronic disease. But HIV is sophisticated, possibly even "intelligent" in some way, so the treatments don't last terribly long and new ones must always be developed to keep the virus at bay. Sorry, but no "cure" will ever be found, only drug treatments with undesirable side-effects, though one day, perhaps 20-50 years from now, a vaccine will probably be developed. Until then, the only option is to avoid catching the virus, something my brother and so many others refuse to do. "......medical science has gone from zero to a comprehensive understanding of how HIV and other viruses work ....." That's great to hear, I was not aware of anyone having shown how HIV works and how it causes disease. Let's hear about it, with references of course. > My retard of a brother with AIDS seems to have gone completely insane. 1) How sad that someone who seems to care so much about his brother calls someone "pet transexual nigger," especially someone your brother seems to care about. Get a soul, you racist f.ck. 2) The diarhea (sp) that comes from some drug cocktails is not "oops, I ate the old egg salad" variety juice poops. It's explosive, often debilitating, dehydrating, painful. Understanding what really goes on is kind of a requirement for rational thought, you ignorant, unsympathetic f.ck. 3) Almost unanimously, medical opinion says a patient who can't stick to the meds 95% of the time minimum shouldn't take any meds at all, to preserve the drugs' effectiveness later. If your brother's on meth, he won't be able to for reasons you understand all too well. 4) He might be clinically depressed, and feel the meds don't matter. He might have decided he won't fight it. He might just need to feel alive with someone and live for a while without worrying about every bl.wj.b. In any event, he doesn't qualify for involuntary committment in most states. And what makes you think committment would stop him from doing all the things he's doing now? Look, d00d, you can't save someone doesn't want saving. Let him know you're there, don't send any more money, and be a brother. (I really wanted to end #3 aqnd #4 with the word "f.ck" again, but you didn't deserve it for them.) "Randomantic wrote... > "Andrei Chikatilo" wrote... ... another classic "Diablo" dungpile steaming with bigotry, judgement and jealous-little-brother snittery, just like he's been doing for the last two years at least .... And then my bro Randomantic laid down some truth. > 1) How sad that someone who seems to care so much about his brother calls > someone "pet transexual nigger," especially someone your brother seems to > care about. Get a soul, you racist f.ck. Dude's a stone 'phobe, too, man--what else could you expect? > 2) The diarhea (sp) that comes from some drug cocktails is not "oops, I ate > the old egg salad" variety juice poops. It's explosive, often debilitating, > dehydrating, painful. Understanding what really goes on is kind of a > requirement for rational thought, you ignorant, unsympathetic f.ck. Word. > 3) Almost unanimously, medical opinion says a patient who can't stick to > the meds 95% of the time minimum shouldn't take any meds at all, to preserve > the drugs' effectiveness later. If your brother's on meth, he won't be able > to for reasons you understand all too well. Word. > 4) He might be clinically depressed, and feel the meds don't matter. He > might have decided he won't fight it. He might just need to feel alive with > someone and live for a while without worrying about every bl.wj.b. WORD! Tell it, man, even if Andrei Chil' don't get it; speak truth and honor Satan! > In any event, he doesn't qualify for involuntary committment in most states. > And what makes you think committment would stop him from doing all the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (I really wanted to end #3 aqnd #4 with the word "f.ck" again, but you > didn't deserve it for them.) You're a far, far kinder man than I, R'antic darlin'. And just where the f.ck have ya been holed up anyway? "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames" --some dead drunkard Sparrow 13 "Sparrow 13" <13@NOSPAMslavehouse.org> wrote in message... > "Randomantic wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dude's a stone 'phobe, too, man--what else could you expect? (I've changed my alias) I'm sorry if you were offended by my description of the she-thang my brother is involved with, but I was actually being as polite as possible in this situation. Since you don't know this freak, you have no business defending him/her/it/whatever. Just take the word of someone who has known him/her/it/whatever for 12 years, that it is the most offensive and despicable creature to ever walk this earth, and a complete waste of nucleic acids to boot. This she-thang has some sort of evil influence over my brother, something I liken to brainwashing, if not some sort of voodoo spell. My brother is insane at the moment, so rather than doing anything to help him, like calling the mental center, this she-thang is trying to convince him to move to California, declare himself homeless, and going on welfare, food stamps, and public housing (which the she- thang has already done, much to the delight of California taxpayers). Apparently California welfare benefits are so lavish that the she- thang can afford weekly bus trips to Las Vegas and back to visit its mother and my brother. And there's still enough dough left over to purchase its supply of black-market estrogen pills, which it uses to grow titties. Finally call me a "'phobe" all you want, but if you must know I happen to be gay myself. You refer to my ancient posts, most likely written during my meth-induced psychosis I referred to earlier, and somehow managed to misinterpret my ANTI-AIDS rants as ANTI-GAY ones. But I'm not surprised at your misinterpretation, since in reality GAY = AIDS, at least for 90% of gay men in America. The difference between my brother and myself is that around 1990 I realized that something was going on and took the warnings seriously and decided to lay low, while my brother must have imagined those same warnings were an attempt by Newt Gingrich to spoil his fun and proceeded to buttfuck just about anything in the Western Hemisphere that moved. Then he acted so surprised when he came down with AIDS, then somehow managed to blame Newt Gingrich for it. > > 2) The diarhea (sp) that comes from some drug cocktails is not "oops, I ate > > the old egg salad" variety juice poops. It's explosive, often debilitating, > > dehydrating, painful. Understanding what really goes on is kind of a > > requirement for rational thought, you ignorant, unsympathetic f.ck. Yes, I know exactly what sort of diarrhea it is, as I already complained in my ancient posts about he covered the toilet seat with it 10x a day, then I got harassed as "unenlightened" for refusing to sit my butt on it. Our house had several bathrooms, and I even gave him the big bathroom with a toilet, tub, shower, and two sinks, and staked claim to the tiny 4'-square guest bathroom but that somehow offended him so I would come home to find his explosive diarrhea all over my toilet seat, much like a dog marks its territory by sh.tting on someone's lawn. Anyway, I'm sure the diarrhea is very unpleasant, but he had it when he started his original therapy and it eventually subsided as his body adjusted to the medication. I though I mentioned he had recently switched therapies after developing resistance to the first one, which is why the diarrhea recurred. But he's traded perhaps a year of relative comfort for an upcoming plethora of opportunistic infections which will not only cause diarrhea from hell, but unimaginable pain as every part of his body begins to decay like a pound of hamburger left out in the sun for a month. > > 4) He might be clinically depressed, and feel the meds don't matter. He > > might have decided he won't fight it. He might just need to feel alive with > > someone and live for a while without worrying about every bl.wj.b. > > WORD! Tell it, man, even if Andrei Chil' don't get it; speak truth and > honor Satan! He already tried Zoloft last year. He says he couldn't stand it. But I keep telling him to ask for Risperdal, an antipsychotic, instead. It is indicated for psychosis, including meth-induced psychosis, and from personal experience with it I can testify that it works very well. He is paranoid because they gave him Haldol before which was just unbearable, but Risperdal is in an entirely new class of antipsychotic drugs and is NOTHING at all like Haldol. It is extremely "clean" and does not leave the user feeling drugged at all. Risperdal came on the market in 1993 and now has 4 or 5 competitors in the same class, but all have their problems and are much more expensive and Risperdal has the longest record of all of them. > > In any event, he doesn't qualify for involuntary committment in most states. > > And what makes you think committment would stop him from doing all the > > things he's doing now? He's a threat to himself. The problem is he has no insurance, so even though the public mental hospital is technically under obligation to treat him, they have an annoying tendency to pronounce unprofitable patients "cured," as they did 10 years ago after my brother was hauled in twice in a straightjacket; they gave him a week of Haldol and released him within 6 hours each time. But if he had generous insurance, you can be certain they would involuntarily commit him for several years even if his only ailment was obsessive hand washing, pronouncing him cured only on the day his insurance expired. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "'You are a flaw in the pattern, Winston. You are a stain that must be wiped out. Did I not tell you just now that we are different from the persecutors of the past? We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instant of death we cannot permit any deviation. In the old days the heretic walked to the stake still a heretic, proclaiming his heresy, exulting in it. Even the victim of the Russian purges could carry rebellion locked up in his skull as he walked down the passage waiting for the bullet. But we make the brain perfect before we blow it out." -- George Orwell; "1984" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesus T Christ on a crutch piss and moan and whine. This sounds like a gaddamn soap opera. I'm at a loss for words for all this drama. One part makes me want to laugh my a.s off at this and his past stories and the other wants to kill his brother with aids. Oh well if he has AIDS the death clock is already ticking. Tick Tock. Opinions are like a.sholes everyone has one. Rgds Dr. Satan "Dr. Satan" <drsatan22@yahoo.com> wrote... > Jesus T Christ on a crutch piss and moan and whine. This sounds like a > gaddamn soap opera. I'm at a loss for words for all this drama. One part [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Opinions are like a.sholes everyone has one. Very true, and that's why the Internet was invented so every a.shole could express his opinion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone who has a little money can have something printed, or can distribute it on the Internet or in some such way, but what he has to say will be swamped by the vast volume of material put out by the media, hence it will have no practical effect. To make an impression on society with words is therefore almost impossible for most individuals and small groups. Take us (FC) for example. If we had never done anything violent and had submitted the present writings to a publisher, they probably would not have been accepted. If they had been accepted and published, they probably would not have attracted many readers, because it's more fun to watch the entertainment put out by the media than to read a sober essay. Even if these writings had had many readers, most of these readers would soon have forgotten what they had read as their minds were flooded by the mass of material to which the media expose them. In order to get our message before the public with some chance of making a lasting impression, we've had to kill people." -- The Unabomber Manifesto; Paragraph 96 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm sorry if you were offended by my description of the she-thang my > brother is involved with, but I was actually being as polite as > possible in this situation. "Keep coming back", "easy does it", "one day at a time" and just try to be nice even if you have to pretend. Update on my brother: His she-thang of a "friend" is babysitting him in Las Vegas and yesterday dragged him down to the mental "crisis center" for evaluation. He spoke to a doctor and proceeded to lie about how everything was just fine and perfect, despite appearing to every single person who knows him to be a raving lunatic. The doctor, who is probably docked pay for admitting more than a certain limit of unprofitable (uninsured) patients, seemed to agree that nothing was wrong and sent my brother on his way with not even a single pill. And this is despite this being the same mental health center my brother was hauled off to in a straightjacket 2 or 3 times about 10 years ago, so the doctor definitely had his record when he decided my brother was fine. I realize my brother is insane, but I am getting close to just telling him to f.ck off for good. I think the biggest problem with him is that he thinks he is the smartest person on earth, when in reality he is more than just a little bit stoopid, often bordering on retarded, at least judging from his behavior. 10 years of the most graphic propaganda telling him to wear condoms if he is going to buttfuck, but he was soooo fuckin' smart he just knew the advice didn't apply to HIM. And while I now realize I probably overreacted slightly to his HIV+ diagnosis, one of the things that sent me down the path towards insanity was the microsecond he tested HIV+ he suddenly became an "expert" on the disease, with the balls to lecture ME on how it was and wasn't transmitted (i.e. the sh.t-covered toilet seat I refused to sit my a.s on). I can't even begin to describe the anger that generated in me, and it took considerable restraint to avoid telling him off that if he knew so fuckin' much about AIDS, how come he managed to catch it anyway?!? So now is so fuckin' smart he just knows that the best decision he can make in life is to stop his AIDS treatment, move to California, declaring himself homeless, and collecting welfare and food stamps paid for by the generous California taxpayers. Never mind that to everyone else this appears to be sheer insanity, to him they are all "ignorant," to use Michael Jackson's favorite term. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself - that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink." -- George Orwell, "1984" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Update on my brother: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > times about 10 years ago, so the doctor definitely had his record when > he decided my brother was fine. Trust your doctor, he's your friend. > I realize my brother is insane, but I am getting close to just telling > him to f.ck off for good. Don't tease us, really do it! > I think the biggest problem with him is that > he thinks he is the smartest person on earth, when in reality he is > more than just a little bit stoopid, often bordering on retarded, at > least judging from his behavior. Funny how traits run in families, isn't it? > 10 years of the most graphic > propaganda telling him to wear condoms if he is going to buttfuck, but > he was soooo fuckin' smart he just knew the advice didn't apply to HIM. But if you are the one bending over then how does it help if you wear a condom? > And while I now realize I probably overreacted slightly to his HIV+ > diagnosis, one of the things that sent me down the path towards insanity > was the microsecond he tested HIV+ he suddenly became an "expert" on the > disease, with the balls to lecture ME on how it was and wasn't > transmitted (i.e. the sh.t-covered toilet seat I refused to sit my > a.s on). The sh.t hides the upside-down thumbtacks. > I can't even begin to describe the anger that generated in me, > and it took considerable restraint to avoid telling him off that if he > knew so fuckin' much about AIDS, how come he managed to catch it anyway?!? Are you sure it wasn't all the drugs you were taking that made you so intolerant of your relatives? > So now is so fuckin' smart he just knows that the best decision he can > make in life is to stop his AIDS treatment, move to California, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- George Orwell, "1984" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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