...finally entering their closed minds? See:
http://www.reuters.com/article/health-SP-A/idUSN0822615120071109
QUOTE: "The data are disappointing and puzzling but we don't have
definitive answers," Dr. Lawrence Corey of Fred Hutchinson Cancer
Research Center in Seattle... UNQUOTE.
In science, such a situation absolutely demands a re-evaluation of
underlying assumptions, yet this "gang that couldn't think straight"
clings ever more tightly to their impossible dogma. Of course, the
most obvious and basic kinds of experiments required to establish "HIV/
AIDS" were never conducted in the first place, so don't think they
will be any time soon.
monty1945@lycos.com - 10 Nov 2007 05:12 GMT
More laughable citations from that link:
QUOTE: "These data are deeply disappointing and troubling..."
UNQUOTE.
No kidding.
QUOTE: "This setback should not and can not diminish our commitment
to developing an effective HIV vaccine," said NIAID director Dr.
Anthony Fauci. "Every day, another 12,000 people become infected with
HIV... UNQUOTE.
Of course not - the show (scam?) must go on, right? And if you look
at the numbers said to be infected over the years and the number of
deaths said to be from "AIDS," the "latency period" is basically the
same as what one would expect for those who abuse their bodies
terribly.
QUOTE: "...we are being completely transparent, as open as possible,"
Fauci said in a recent interview... UNQUOTE.
Too bad they are not being "transparent" about the fact that basic
experiments have never been conducted, "HIV" is based upon indirect,
non-specific markers, the particles found are more likely to be
effects rather than causes and do not meet the textbook descriptions
of "HIV," the samples in which "HIV" was "found" were "stimulated" and
proper scientific controls were not used, "AIDS" is a semantic
construct that is tied to the markers, etc. When have any of you
heard any of these points made by someone like Tony F. in the
"mainstream media?"
dank - 10 Nov 2007 06:52 GMT
monty1945@lycos.com wrote...
> ...finally entering their closed minds? See:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> AIDS" were never conducted in the first place, so don't think they
> will be any time soon.
It's amazing how you twist the failure of an experiment AIDS vaccine
into proof the HIV virus doesn't exist.
This experiment was unethical and should have been illegal outside of
a Biolevel-4 facility. I am outraged to learn they spliced HIV genes
into a common cold virus, no matter how smart they think they are.
I've already decided that the HIV virus is a form of intelligence,
definitely more intelligent than the humans who contract it and still
more intelligent than the best human scientists who are studying it.
The HIV virus still has its limitations and can only exist in certain
environments, and now they went and spliced its genes into a virus
that is readily transmissable by air and surface contact. Not only
that, the vaccine caused an ancient Human Endogenous Retrovirus (HERV)
to express itself, something totally unexpected and the effects are
unknown. This research could be disastrous if HIV or unknown HERV
genes manage to successfully splice with the host viruses used in
gene therapy.
Now the infected vaccine participants have been turned loose, with no
data on how virulent their personal strain of HIV is. It may be that
an expressed HERV might have contributed a gene that makes their copy
of the HIV virus more infectious, perhaps even transmissable by air.
Death - 11 Nov 2007 05:43 GMT
> monty1945@lycos.com wrote...
> > ...finally entering their closed minds? See:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Now the infected vaccine participants have been turned loose, ...
Bingo, my thoughts exactly.
monty1945@lycos.com - 11 Nov 2007 23:48 GMT
Are you aware that a vaccine was promised in the mid 1980s? The claim
was that it should take no more than 18 months to develop. Since
then, this kind of promise has been made over and over again, with no
"success." With this information now on this thread, I don't see how
my original post is inconsistent in any way. On a practical level,
science is about predictability and results, whereas what the public
gets from these "experts" are promises that never "pan out" and fear
mongering about a "global pandemic" (probably viewed as important, to
keep the funding coming in). I can further explain how "HIV/AIDS"
claims are a clear and basic violation of the scientific method, but
you don't seem interested in the scientific method, so there's not
much more that can be said at this point.
Scott Ley - 21 Feb 2008 09:50 GMT
> ...finally entering their closed minds? See:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> AIDS" were never conducted in the first place, so don't think they
> will be any time soon.
Confuse and abuse... that is how you get U.S.
citizens to believe HIV/AIDS started in Africa.
"The most obvious and basic kinds of experiments
required to establish 'HIV/AIDS' were" certainly and
most assuredly conducted the moment HIV was
accidently conceived just off the shores of the U.S.
But since the bug got away and started roaming the
world, such experiments were never made public.
Assertive talk that experiments weren't conducted
just serves to thicken the veil of mystery regarding
AIDS. Such "certainty" is unfounded and cannot be
supported. If you had written...
"There is little evidence to support that the most
obvious and basic kinds of experiments required to
establish 'HIV/AIDS' were ever conducted in the
first place . . .", then you would have had the basis
for a lively conversation that could help demystify
AIDS.
Instead you add, ". . . so don't think they will be
any time soon." Such obvious pessimism just
makes me want to ignore you in the future. Are
you trying to be ignored?

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Scotty
P.S. Can you accept the possibility that such
experiments might have been performed and yet
not made public?