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thesak - 02 Sep 2007 15:43 GMT
by Ben Stein
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml

Ben Stein Says Craig Was Lynched Twice

Commentator Says GOP Senator Was Set-Up By "Stalinist"
Police, And Then Tossed Overboard By Own Party

  Larry Craig Larry Craig
  Idaho senator embroiled in scandal after arrest at
  Minneapolis airport comes to light.
  Ben+Stein+Says+Craig+Was+Lynched+Twice

  Sept. 2, 2007

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  If a police officer can wreck a man's career over this
  trifle, then we might as well not have a Constitution
  or a Bill of Rights.

  WHAT DO YOU THINK?

                      Go To Comments  [arrow_right.gif]

  (CBS) Sunday Morning commentator Ben Stein has a few
  words for the Minneapolis police's behavior in the
  arrest of Sen. Larry Craig, and for the Republican
  leadership's response - and they're not very
  flattering.
               ___________________________

  The whole story of Senator Larry Craig, the Republican
  of Idaho who announced his resignation yesterday, is a
  nightmare of out-of-control police and weak
  politicians.

  Senator Craig has been the innocent victim of a set-up
  by the evil-minded police of Minneapolis-St. Paul that
  Stalin would have admired.

  Here's the deal: Senator Craig went into a men's room
  at the Twin Cities airport. He entered a lavatory
  stall. He tapped his foot. He may or may not have
  reached his hand down under the lavatory partition to
  pick up a piece of paper or to make a signal.

  That's it. That's the whole thing. There was no sex
  act of any kind.

  So the policeman who happened to be in the next stall
  walks Senator Craig off, starts bullying him, accusing
  him of lying and, implicitly, threatens to ruin
  Senator Craig's career.

  ALL FOR A MAN TAPPING HIS FOOT IN A PUBLIC BATHROOM.

  This is insane.

  If a police officer can wreck a man's career over this
  trifle, then we might as well not have a Constitution
  or a Bill of Rights.

  Look, I spend a lot of time in Idaho. These are good
  people. I can readily see why a Senator from there
  would quietly plead guilty to a small charge rather
  than risk a public fight - even though the police seem
  to have wrecked Craig's career anyway.

  What I don't understand is why the GOP is tossing
  Senator Craig overboard as if he were a terrorist.
  Even if it turns Senator Craig is gay, so what? Barney
  Frank is gay and he's one of the best members of the
  Congress. There are lots of fine gay public servants.

  Senator Craig has been the victim of a police
  lynching. A party that believes in individual rights
  should be rallying to his defense, not making him walk
  the plank.

  Shame on the GOP leadership, and utter disgrace to the
  airport police and their thug behavior.

  These are security people in airports. Hello! An
  airport? Don't they have anything better to do?

  E-Mail This Story

  Now you're in the public comment zone. What follows is
  not CBS News stuff; it comes from other people and we
  don't vouch for it.

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Death - 02 Sep 2007 16:11 GMT
"thesak" <don.saklad@gmail.com> wrote in message

>    If a police officer can wreck a man's career over this
>    trifle, then we might as well not have a Constitution
>    or a Bill of Rights.
>
>    WHAT DO YOU THINK?

He pled guilty, and that is fact not thought.
His constitutional right was to get a lawyer
but he passed.
His constitutional right was a day in court
but he passed.
His constitutional right to resign, he used.
thesak - 02 Sep 2007 21:47 GMT
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Death - 03 Sep 2007 19:29 GMT
> http://www.google.com/search?q=karsnia
> http://www.google.com/
> search?q=karsnia

Again I tell you, if he was innocent he would have said so.
He would not have pled guilty to wanting faggot sex while his wife
and kids sat at home.
don warner saklad - 03 Sep 2007 04:30 GMT
http://greencycles.blogspot.com/
Rich Corinthian Leather - 03 Sep 2007 00:02 GMT
> by Ben Stein
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml
>
> Ben Stein Says Craig Was Lynched Twice

Ben Stein sure seems to have lost his humor since losing his game show,
"Win Ben Stein's Money." He now seems to posture and pontificate these days!

In regards to the bathroom arrest, while I disagree with police
entrapment, and undercover work is just that, solicitation of sex is a
crime.

RCL
Jim Roberts - 03 Sep 2007 09:11 GMT
>> by Ben Stein
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml
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>
> RCL

His father Herb had a better sense of humor under pressure.  Ben is a
right-wing freakoid, but his TV program was good until he started to
fire his assistants.  I still miss the female assistant, who was a Roman
candle.

Your remarks about Senator Craig go too far, as he did.  I'm not
familiar with the toilet-stall signals for gay sex - do they work in
womens' stalls? - because I grab them and hammer them when they are
washing their hands - just kidding:  I can't get horny when taking a
crap or a leak.

When a Senator pleads guilty, he's guilty.  When he pleads not guilty,
he's probably guilty.  Besides his plea, there is sufficient detailed
testimony from the cop.  You forget that there were a lot of complaints
from fliers that they were accosted in the airport restrooms, so the
placement of undercover cops was a response to public demand.

The cop did not solicit sex, he just responded to a solicitation.  When
was the last time you whacked your shoe against your cell-neighbor's and
played with your fingers on the bottom of the steel separator?  I can
tell you mine: never.  You?

jimbat
thesak - 03 Sep 2007 11:48 GMT
| If a police officer can wreck a man's career over
         | this trifle, then we might as well not have a
         | Constitution or a Bill of Rights.

This is exactly right.
A US Senator was thrown out of the Senate because
he tapped his foot while seated in a toilet stall in an airport
bathroom.

         | The whole story of Senator Larry Craig, the
         | Republican of Idaho who announced his resignation
         | yesterday, is a nightmare of out-of-control police
         | and weak politicians.

af the arresting officer, scroll down to...
Karsnia
at
http://greencycles.blogspot.com/

         | by Ben Stein
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/
stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml

         | Ben Stein Says Craig Was Lynched Twice
         |
         | Commentator Says GOP Senator Was Set-Up By
         | "Stalinist" Police, And Then
         | Tossed Overboard By Own Party
         |
         | Larry Craig
         | Idaho senator embroiled in scandal after arrest at
         | Minneapolis airport comes to light.
         |
         | Sept. 2, 2007
         |
         | Quote
         |
         | If a police officer can wreck a man's career over
         | this trifle, then we might as well not have a
         | Constitution or a Bill of Rights.

This is exactly right.

A US Senator was thrown out of the Senate because he tapped his
foot while seated in a toilet stall in an airport bathroom.

         | WHAT DO YOU THINK?
         |
         | (CBS) Sunday Morning commentator Ben Stein has a
         | few words for the Minneapolis police's behavior in
         | the arrest of Sen. Larry Craig, and for the
         | Republican leadership's response - and they're not
         | very flattering.
         |
         | The whole story of Senator Larry Craig, the
         | Republican of Idaho who announced his resignation
         | yesterday, is a nightmare of out-of-control police
         | and weak politicians.

af the arresting officer, scroll down to
Karsnia
at
http://greencycles.blogspot.com/

         | Senator Craig has been the innocent victim of a
         | set-up by the evil-minded police of
         | Minneapolis-St. Paul that Stalin would have
         | admired.
         |
         | Here's the deal: Senator Craig went into a men's
         | room at the Twin Cities airport. He entered a
         | lavatory stall. He tapped his foot. He may or may
         | not have reached his hand down under the lavatory
         | partition to pick up a piece of paper or to make a
         | signal.  That's it. That's the whole thing. There
         | was no sex act of any kind.
         |
         | So the policeman who happened to be in the next
         | stall walks Senator Craig off, starts bullying
         | him, accusing him of lying and, implicitly,
         | threatens to ruin Senator Craig's career.
         |
         | ALL FOR A MAN TAPPING HIS FOOT IN A PUBLIC BATHROOM.
         | This is insane.
         |
         | If a police officer can wreck a man's career over
         | this trifle, then we might as well not have a
         | Constitution or a Bill of Rights.
         |
         | Look, I spend a lot of time in Idaho. These are
         | good people. I can readily see why a Senator from
         | there would quietly plead guilty to a small charge
         | rather than risk a public fight - even though the
         | police seem to have wrecked Craig's career anyway.
         |
         | What I don't understand is why the GOP is tossing
         | Senator Craig overboard as if he were a terrorist.
         |
         | Even if it turns Senator Craig is gay, so what?
         | Barney Frank is gay and he's one of the best
         | members of the Congress. There are lots of fine
         | gay public servants.
         |
         | Senator Craig has been the victim of a police
         | lynching. A party that believes in individual
         | rights should be rallying to his defense, not
         | making him walk the plank.
         |
         | Shame on the GOP leadership, and utter disgrace to
         | the airport police and their thug behavior.
         |
         | These are security people in airports. Hello! An
         | airport? Don't they have anything better to do?
         |
         | E-Mail This Story
         |
         | Now you're in the public comment zone. What
         | follows is not CBS News stuff; it comes from other
         | people and we don't vouch for it.
         |
         | Comments [ + Post Your Own ]
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Fava Bean - 13 Sep 2007 02:21 GMT
> by Ben Steinhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/02/sunday/main3228091.shtml
>
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>
>                       Rich Get Richer While War Rages On

I really like what Randi Rhodes said on Larry King, which is that the
sad part of all of this is that Senator Craig had to deny his
sexuality to a point where he *could* be entrapped in a restroom.
Death - 13 Sep 2007 04:14 GMT
"Fava Bean" <dahlingyoucanreachme@gmail.com> wrote in message

> I really like what Randi Rhodes said on Larry King, which is that the
> sad part of all of this is that Senator Craig had to deny his
> sexuality to a point where he *could* be entrapped in a restroom.

I take it Randi Rhodes is a faggot apologist.
Entrapped? Just how was that feat pulled off?
Did the cops know in advance which stall faggot Craig
was going to occupy?
Did the cops know in advance that he would then play
footsie and reach under the partisan?
Did the cops then know he would plead guilty?

He did what he did, then attempted to hide behind his wife.
Jim Roberts - 19 Sep 2007 09:02 GMT
> "Fava Bean" <dahlingyoucanreachme@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> I really like what Randi Rhodes said on Larry King, which is that the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> He did what he did, then attempted to hide behind his wife.

The reason he was arrested was that he hung around trying to peer into
the cop's stall for several minutes.  Had he washed his hands and left,
there would have been no arrest.

jimbat

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