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Long-term CD4 study

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Martin - 19 Jul 2007 01:30 GMT
Hmmm, unsurprisingly, there's a bit of confusion about when patients
should begin ART.

In my recent message, titled "Immunity and cancer"
<mhns931uh5i5j7trjjm68ebver7aigamhe@4ax.com>, I quoted from a report
which suggested that 'HIV' patients should be put on ART earlier than
they usually are now.

However, this article, suggests there isn't much benefit in doing so:

"Those who began with more than 500 CD4 cells per microlitre saw the
least relative improvement."

<http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/administration/afp-news.html?id=070718
230847.thmn73qd&cat=science
>:
Patients who successfully respond to drugs that combat the AIDS virus
can see a key marker of immune health rebound to a level enjoyed by
people without HIV, a study published online Wednesday by The Lancet
says.

[...]

On average, these individuals had a CD4 count of 204 cells per
microlitre of blood at the start of the study.

In the first year of taking antiretrovirals, there was a big spurt in
the CD4 count, of around 100 cells per microlitre on average.

HIV levels were also suppressed, to below 50 copies of the virus per
microlitre, which is considered a key goal in antiretroviral
treatment.

Over the next few years, lower -- but still significant --
improvements in the CD4 count continued.

In fact, after three years, patients who had started therapy with a
CD4 count of more than 350 cells per microlitre had a CD4 count
"approaching the level seen in HIV-negative individuals," Mocroft
says.

On average, the boost was around 50 cells per microlitre annually, and
this continued even up to the fifth year of treatment, which by the
standards of HIV therapy is a long time indeed.

[...]

Those who began with more than 500 CD4 cells per microlitre saw the
least relative improvement.

[...]

Previous research in this field has been more pessimistic, suggesting
that CD4 counts tend to plateau after several years of treatment.

But those studies used less strict criteria for determining whether
the drugs were working.
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Death - 19 Jul 2007 06:43 GMT
> Hmmm, unsurprisingly, there's a bit of confusion about when patients
> should begin ART.

Never.
Death - 19 Jul 2007 13:24 GMT
> Hmmm, unsurprisingly, there's a bit of confusion about when patients
> should begin ART.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - AIDS drug cocktails may be able to restore the ravaged immune systems of some
people infected with HIV, researchers reported on Wednesday.

Immune cells known as CD4 T-cells returned to normal levels in an ideal group of patients, picked
because they responded optimally to a combination of at least three AIDS drugs, the researchers
reported in the Lancet medical journal.

The human immunodeficiency virus, which causes AIDS, plunders the immune system, leaving people
vulnerable to a range of infections that may prove fatal.

AIDS is incurable, but doctors try to prop up the immune system with life-extending drug therapy
aimed at reducing the amount of virus in the body.

The study involved 1,835 HIV-infected people drawn from a larger study involving more than 14,000
patients from across Europe, Israel and Argentina.

"I think it's very encouraging that if people can respond to treatment well enough and can suppress
the virus for long enough, we have sufficient evidence to say their CD4 counts can return to normal,"
Dr. Amanda Mocroft of Royal Free and University College Medical School in London, one of the
researchers, said in a telephone interview.

"Our previous understanding was that there was a plateau in CD4 counts so that CD4 counts would stop
increasing after a sufficiently long time taking combination therapy," she added.

Mocroft said not all HIV patients respond as well to these drugs, and many, particularly in the
hardest hit regions like sub-Saharan Africa, do not have access to them.

"This is sort of the best-case scenario, if you like, that we can identify a group of patients who we
would expect to have a normal CD4 count with sufficient treatment," Mocroft said.

These patients were chosen because they responded well to the treatment, with the drugs suppressing
the virus to very low levels. They were tracked for about five years.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said
doctors who care for HIV-infected patients have noticed this restoration of normal levels of CD4
cells in some of them. Fauci credited Mocroft's team for documenting this phenomenon in a systematic
way.

CD4 cells, a type of white blood cell, help protect the body

from infection. But HIV targets CD4 cells, using them to create

more copies of the virus, thus undermining the immune system.

After initial infection, a person can produce more CD4 cells to take the place of those attacked by
HIV. But in time, the body cannot make enough, increasingly weakening the immune system.

Although it is impossible to eradicate the virus with existing drugs, it is possible to keep it at
extremely low levels in some people with the right combination of drugs.

The AIDS virus infects close to 40 million people globally, most of them in Africa. It has killed
more than 25 million.
Martin - 19 Jul 2007 14:17 GMT
>These patients were chosen because they responded well to the treatment, with the drugs suppressing
>the virus to very low levels. They were tracked for about five years.

So, patients who responded well to 'HIV treatment' showed a good
response?  LOL.  Perhaps the results of this study aren't very
surprising, then.

What about the huge number of patients who don't respond "well" to
'HIV treatment?'

It's also interesting that this study appeared to focus completely on
CD4 counts and totally ignored 'HIV viral load,' which is suppose to
measure the actually amount of HIV itself in blood.

'HIV drugs' do usually increase CD4 levels, even in those who have not
been diagnosed HIV+.  It's believed this is an immune system response
to the body being flooded by poison.
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