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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / July 2007HIV bubble bursts in Florida
<http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?n=1&neID=200706242170.1_22d8005b61ae93ea>: "Funding for the state's innovative disease management (DM) program serving thousands of Floridians living with HIV/AIDS has been slashed from $11.5 million to $4.5 million annually." That really is innovative. Well done Florida!  Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > That really is innovative. Well done Florida! From the article: Florida is currently the third state with the highest number of HIV/AIDS cases in the U.S., behind only New York and California. More than 4,000 HIV/AIDS cases are diagnosed in Florida every year, accounting for 10% of all new infections in the U.S.. The proposed changes will unfortunately only result in the increased spread of HIV and AIDS in Florida. SOURCE AIDS Healthcare Foundation. ````````````````````` Yep. cut back on welfare monies and the result is more HIV. Money seems to be the only cure for HIV/AIDS. >"Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Yep. cut back on welfare monies and the result is more HIV. >Money seems to be the only cure for HIV/AIDS. Money and drugs, or is it money for drugs? That's all these people ever want. That's why thousands of people diagnosed HIV+ were killed with AZT. At one time Thalidomide was considered as a treatment for HIV. You may not know what that is. Thalidomide was prescribed to pregnant women here in the UK in the 1950s and 1960s to treat morning sickness, and had horrendous effects on child development in the womb. More here <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide>. All those do-gooder gay and HIV activists keep whinging about is wanting more money. And what happens to it? It's given to drug companies who pull old, dangerous and failed drugs off their dusty shelves and begin a new killing spree with them. Signature<http://www.hiv-poz.co.uk/> Moible: +447939991519 Martin wrote..., On 06/25/2007 08:32: > <http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?n=1&neID=200706242170.1_22d8005b61ae93ea>: > "Funding for the state's innovative disease management (DM) program > serving thousands of Floridians living with HIV/AIDS has been slashed > from $11.5 million to $4.5 million annually." > > That really is innovative. Well done Florida! I agree! The problem has been that they have never been held accountable for the large budgets they receive. Actually, they are held accountable in reverse in that the more they fail the larger their next annual budget increase will be. In other words, every time someone tests HIV+, the various social programs for HIV/AIDS get an additional sum of money to pay for their treatment, counseling, etc. There is no monetary penalty for failing to prevent that new HIV infection, in fact it is rewarded with a budget increase. The solution, therefore, is to give the HIV programs a **STRICTLY FIXED** budget and make it clear that no extra money will be given no matter how many new HIV infections there are. They will get this year's trillion dollar budget, and next year's will also be a trillion as will the 2017 budget. Money not spent could be embezzled into the program counselors' secret Swiss bank accounts, so they would have an incentive to keep expenses down by preventing as many new infections as possible. But they will no longer get paid to chant safe-sex propaganda slogans at AIDS-infected fucktards and still expect to get raises when those slogans are ignored. "#1 Fan" <fan@superstar.stalk.net> wrote in message > I agree! > > In other words, every time someone tests HIV+, the various social programs > for HIV/AIDS get an additional sum of money to pay for their treatment, > counseling, etc. There is no monetary penalty for failing to prevent that > new HIV infection, in fact it is rewarded with a budget increase. The budgets are so large now I am surprised states don't start selling off some of their allocations like they did with the tabacco settlement. Passing out free con-dumbs still makes me laugh. If a piece of a.s isn't worth 50 cents to someone, what the hell is? Consider, if you will, last summer's report from the Department of Health and Human Services titled, "Scientific Evidence on Condom Effectiveness for Sexually Transmitted Disease Prevention." The report first gave the numbers of new cases of STDs in the year: 63,000 new cases of HIV/AIDS, 70,000 of syphilis, 650,000 of gonorrhea, 1 million of genital herpes, 3 million of chlamydia, 5 million of trichomoniasis, 5.5 million of human papillomavirus. The study then coldly concluded there is "no clinical proof" of the effectiveness of condoms in preventing genital herpes, syphilis, chancroid, trichomoniasis or chlamydia, and no clinical proof of their effectiveness in preventing gonorrhea in women, though condoms do offer "some risk protection" for men against gonorrhea. Condoms also do provide 85 percent protection against the HIV/AIDS virus, or roughly the odds one has of escaping unscathed when playing Russian roulette with a six-shooter with one chamber lethally loaded - if you're interested in playing Russian roulette. Thus, according to our own government, condoms are a fraud. And partly because they believed that fraud, 45 million Americans now suffer from herpes, for which there is no known cure, and 900,000 suffer from HIV/AIDS. Are these diseases spreading because of a lack of availability of condoms? Hardly. As Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family told Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes": "The federal government has spent $3 billion in the last 30 years to promote the safe-sex ideology, and it's been a disaster. At the time they started, there were only two sexually transmitted diseases that were at an epidemic level, and there are now more than 20. One in three Americans over 10 years of age has a sexually transmitted disease." According to Dobson, the Journal of the American Medical Association suggests that even this astronomical figure may be low. If what he says is accurate, America's young have been lied to about condoms and are suffering in the millions and dying in the thousands for having believed those lies. Former Congressman Dr. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma makes exactly that charge against the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control. "The failure of public-health efforts to prevent the STD epidemic in America," says Coburn, "is related to CDC's 'safe-sex' promotion and its attempt to withhold from the American people the truth of condom ineffectiveness." "[T]he CDC has systematically hidden and misrepresented vital medical evidence regarding the ineffectiveness of condoms to prevent the transmission of STDs. The CDC's refusal to acknowledge clinical research has contributed to the massive STD epidemic." And because women believed that "condoms would protect them during intercourse," says Coburn, "millions of women in our country now suffer from the ravages of diseases, including pelvic cancer infections, infertility and cervical cancer." > "#1 Fan" <fan@superstar.stalk.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > for having believed > those lies. Now a casual reading of this article made me think that Dr James Dobson was a medical doctor, as he is making statements in regard to medical matters, in fact he has a doctorate in child development . Dobson is a firm believer in teaching of sexual abstinence. Seeing how I have noticed before how groups like Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, Council for National Policy are all anti gay, and all say that sex outside of marriage is wrong, and all promote sexual abstinence, and Dobson is or was involved in all of these groups and noting as we have seen before these groups tend to get a little (little ???) fast with the truth, so I thought I better look a little closer at what was said. >>One in three Americans over 10 years of age has a sexually transmitted >>disease.<< I thought this was a very high number. Now looking at the net I found this :- http://www.avert.org/stdstatisticusa.htm Looking at the state with the highest number of STD infections (Mississippi) we find that the combined rate of gonorrhea and Chlamydia is around 979.6 cases per 100,000 Now that is less than one in 10, and that is the highest state. Syphilis for Mississippiit is not mentioned in the table of 10 states , so it must be lower than the lowest shown, which is 3.7 per 100,000, incidentally it is only 7.3 per 100,000 for the highest reported state (Georgia) HIV infections were around 13.2 per 100,000 in Mississippi, http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/cgi-bin/healthfacts.cgi?action=profile&area= Mississippi&category=HIV%2FAIDS So adding syphilis and HIV would not bring it up to 1000 cases of STD's in 100,000 , but for the hell of it lets us throw another 20 in bringing up to 999.6 per 100,000. Remember this is for the state that has the highest reported incidence of gonorrhea and Chlamydia, not the USA. A long way short of the 30,000 in 100,000 that need to be infected if the 3 in 10 in the USA have an STD as Dobson has claimed. What about herpes I hear you say, well it seems that roughly 17% of persons in the USA have been infected by genital herpes. http://www.webmd.com/news/20060822/genital-herpes-virus-rate-drops It seems in this article suggests that condoms play a part in reducing the herpes infection rates. The point is of course that Dobson is showing up a STD rate as a failure of condoms, but nowhere does he prove that, in how many cases of these infections were condoms actually used and failed? As usual it is a case of numbers that have little to do with the facts of the case. If you want to show condoms are ineffective, then you need to show that X number of people get a STD while wearing condoms, and that has not been shown here, merely that X number of people have caught a disease, not how they caught the disease. For instance herpes can be caught by a child during birth, hardly anything to do with using condoms. > Former Congressman Dr. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma makes exactly that charge > against the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > attempt to withhold from the American people the truth of condom > ineffectiveness." It could not be that Dr Tom Coburn is a right wing fanatic who believes in abstinence only ????????????? http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1070789 Oh yes, it seems that is correct. How strange, I wonder why he is against condoms? Nothing to do with his conviction of abstinence only !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > > Dobson of Focus on the Family told Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes": "The > > federal government has spent $3 billion in the last 30 years to promote [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a medical doctor, as he is making statements in regard to medical matters, > in fact he has a doctorate in child development . It doesn't take a dr to see that $3 billion dollars have been wasted. Do you not feel that so large a sum of money could have been used for purposes other than supplying free con-dumbs to high school kids? Perhaps if a zoologist had said that you would have agreed. > It doesn't take a dr to see that $3 billion dollars have been wasted. > Do you not feel that so large a sum of money could have been used > for purposes other than supplying free con-dumbs to high school kids? > > Perhaps if a zoologist had said that you would have agreed. Hominid evolution is instructive. We evolved in small groups. Native Europeans in villages of 150-300, Africans in tribes of 75-150, with other groups within the range. Hominid immune systems never evolved to cope with the variety of pathogens that circulate in mass urban culture, not just STDs. TB is getting bad. There's stuff I dont even wanna be in the same room with, with or without a condom. What is required is a kind of neo-tribalism where people move into self-quaranteen to eliminate the risk of exposure to the kids. Already the onset of autism has been tracked to a virus exposure. Safe sex is not enough, you need a safe community. With increasing numbers of people working online, this becomes possible. Celebacy is not going to protect your kids from TB, or any of the new viruses that are evolving in the gene pools of poor people all over the world, malnourished with weakened immunesystems. > On Jun 26, 11:33 pm, " Death" <D...@yourdoor.net> wrote:> It doesn't take a dr to see that $3 billion dollars have been wasted. > > Do you not feel that so large a sum of money could have been used [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > viruses that are evolving in the gene pools of poor people all over > the world, malnourished with weakened immunesystems. HELLO??? This discussion is about AIDS > HELLO??? This discussion is about AIDS I try to be clear. Why are we concerned about HIV if not a public health issue. and why would we be unconcerned about all the other pathogens that result from social contact, and merely focus on the admittedly more emotional problem of AIDs? Celibacy being promoted as a preventitive of AIDs is not a sufficient response despite the fact that it panders to religious sensibilities. Are there condoms for lips to prevent Herpes or TB? Celibacy among the school kids wont prevent them from dying from TB. "Day Brown" <daybrown@hughes.net> wrote in message > Why are we concerned about HIV if not a public health issue. Indeed it is a public health issue. > Celibacy .... Is not. > "Day Brown" <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote in message > > Why are we concerned about HIV if not a public health issue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is not. Of course, education only works if the audience is sane and smart enough to take good advice. Drug addicts tend to be neither. Moving drug law from the criminal to the civil court would permit families to sue the drug supply chain for the costs of treatment for both HIV and addiction. But that aint gonna happen cause the nation is run by rich lawyers who have partners who make too much money from the seizure of assets from drug dealers. So. public policy change debate is pointless. Would you support a non- profit network of fertility clinics that poor women could use to access better sperm donation than the local stud muffins offer? Smart dykes are already doing this with very promising results, and over time this will have interesting racial effects. We all know which kids will succeed in college and make all the money. > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Do you not feel that so large a sum of money could have been used > for purposes other than supplying free con-dumbs to high school kids? If you stopped twisting the truth, you would be more believable. Your above statement indicates that 3 billion was spent on condoms, but in your original post is said it was to promote the safe-sex ideology, something quite different. Here is what you posted previously. >>Are these diseases spreading because of a lack of availability of condoms? >>Hardly. As Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family told Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes": "The federal government has spent $3 billion in the last 30 years to promote the safe-sex ideology, and it's been a disaster. << Dobson has an rightwing religious agenda of sexual abstinence, and he is pushing that, and he is 'colouring' his statements to try to indicate that is the only way to go. If condoms do not work, they how was the big dip in HIV transmissions once the safe message was started? > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > your original post is said it was to promote the safe-sex ideology, > something quite different. How so? > > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > How so? The rod doesn't know. He's busy stalking his next kiddie victim "Boob has some pretty sad ideas of perversion. http://www.nambla.org/parade1.jpg A group of people watching a parade of people marching. Oh how perverted"--ramrod shows his true colors and it isn't the rainbow.. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.homosexuality/msg/30373b3cb419ebce? "bobandcarole.." <bobandcarole202@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in > > > " Death" <D...@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > The rod doesn't know. He's busy stalking his next kiddie victim I want to see how ole rubber-lips equates abstinence to sex. niggers and faggots aren't ate up with disease because they passed on an infected butt-f.ck. > "bobandcarole.." <bobandcarole202@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > niggers and faggots aren't ate up with disease because they passed > on an infected butt-f.ck. HIV infections around the world is mainly a heterosexual disease, and from what I can see they are hardly practicing abstinence, or safe sex for that matter............... > > "bobandcarole.." <bobandcarole202@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > what I can see they are hardly practicing abstinence, or safe sex for that > matter............... Around the world it is the niggers and faggots that are ate up with HIV and now TB. >> > "bobandcarole.." <bobandcarole202@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Around the world it is the niggers and faggots that are ate up with HIV > and now TB. Ah yes, Death wraps himself in his Heterosexual WASP Caucasian cloak of invisible bigot protection yet again. Mind you there are just a few in India, Thailand, and China (to mention a few) that are infected, are these your 'niggers' also........... "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ah yes, Death wraps himself in his Heterosexual WASP Caucasian cloak of > invisible bigot protection yet again. More panty wrigging. My protection is my personal behavior. The facts from any site you elect, says niggers and faggots carry the majority of diseases. > Mind you there are just a few in India, Thailand, and China (to mention a > few) that are infected, are these your 'niggers' also........... Why did you find some lost niggers? I'll ask around to see if anyone wants to claim them. > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Why did you find some lost niggers? > I'll ask around to see if anyone wants to claim them. Nice dodge, but the cold hard facts remain it is not only Gays and Negro people who get infected, being a heterosexual Caucasian is no protection against getting AIDS. > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > people who get infected, being a heterosexual Caucasian is no protection > against getting AIDS. No dodge, I'm not afraid of any topic. You can chant: we are all at equal risk, all you like, that still doesn't make it true. Dis-eases do discriminate, they burn those who play with fire. >> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > that still doesn't make it true. > Dis-eases do discriminate, they burn those who play with fire. And most play with fire. The figures for teen unmarried pregnant girls in the US show that safe sex is not practiced by a heap of heterosexuals. Thirty-one percent of young women become pregnant at least once before they reach the age of 202 -- about 750,000 a year.3 Eight in ten of these pregnancies are unintended4 and 81 percent are to unmarried teens. http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/genlfact.asp >>> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >>> > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/genlfact.asp Correction, I see that the piece I cut and pasted did not put their reference numbers in small type, so it came up incorrectly, here is what it should have read. http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/genlfact.asp Thirty-one percent of young women become pregnant at least once before they reach the age of 20 -- about 750,000 a year. Eight in ten of these pregnancies are unintended and 81 percent are to unmarried teens. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > Correction, I see that the piece I cut and pasted did not put their > reference numbers in small type, so it came up incorrectly, here is what it > should have read. I read your site. It said niggers and spics...... But then I have told you that for years, perhaps now you will believe what you posted. Oh, by the way that was the third time you left that little tid-bit out of your whine. Convince perhaps, it was all the way down to the next paragraph. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > >> >> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> > > >> >> > Around the world it is the niggers and faggots that are ate up with > >> >> > HIV and now TB. > > The figures for teen unmarried pregnant girls ... Running away from HIV and TB among faggots and niggers is a good idea. It is something you can not escape, but trying doesn't hurt. As I pointed out, niggers and spics lead the unmarried and pregnant category. Oh, I found that out through your url incase you need a reference. >> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > How so? It is self evident. > >> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It is self evident. If you wanted to pass you should have done so......quietly, now you just appear unable to support your whining. >> >> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If you wanted to pass you should have done so......quietly, now > you just appear unable to support your whining. The proof was written above, now cut by you. When you get caught lying, why not just be a man and admit it. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > The proof was written above, now cut by you. What proof, you said it was self evident. > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> >> The proof was written above, now cut by you. > > What proof, you said it was self evident. It was when you read the pieces cut by you. > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It was when you read the pieces cut by you. No, that had no proof other than your opinion. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > Dobson has an rightwing religious agenda of sexual abstinence, and he is > pushing that, and he is 'colouring' his statements to try to indicate that > is the only way to go. How much does abstinence cost? Death wrote... > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How much does abstinence cost? Abstinence costs less than sex (unless you spend a lot on blowup dolls), so Dobson is probably interested in making people take the money they would have spent on condoms and give it to him to build crystal cathedrals instead. Almost all xian moral proscriptions involve money in some way. Gambling is a sin because money gambled away is money that can't be dropped into the collection plate on Sundays. Drinking is a sin because getting drunk on Saturday night means both spending money on the booze, plus you'll probably oversleep and miss the collection plate at church. "#1 Fan" <fan@superstar.stalk.net> wrote in message > Abstinence costs less than sex (unless you spend a lot on blowup dolls), ... BEIJING, Jun 27 (Xinhuanet) -- Los Angeles County launched a campaign against sexually transmitted diseases by using drink coasters, murals, sidewalk chalk art and other unconventional approaches Tuesday. The campaign is to combat rising rates of sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis, chlamydia and gonorrhea, targeting at gay, bisexual men, African American women and Latinas. The county will spend 1.3 million U.S. dollars in efforts to reach "people who are not going to be watching mainstream television or reading the newspapers," according to Dr. Jonathan Fielding, director of the county Department of Public Health. In Los Angeles, over 30,000 women get chlamydia every year, and syphilis in homosexual and bisexual men increased 365 percent between 2001 and 2005. Although the county Board of Supervisors ordered a campaign last year, "it hasn't made the kind of progress that we absolutely need to make," said Fielding. Craig E. Thompson, executive director of AIDS Project Los Angeles, praised the new campaign as being "sexier" and more likely to capture people's attention than the previous effort. "We go from campaign to campaign," Thompson said. "Maybe we get people's attention for a while, then we don't have anything out there." Michael Weinstein, president of AIDS Healthcare Foundation, also praised the new campaign and hoped that the county can set up a system in which every sexually active person gets screened at least every six month. > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How much does abstinence cost? Nothing, except most do not want it except the religious rabble. > > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nothing, except most do not want it except the religious rabble. The religious smoke-screen is cute but has nothing to do with 3 billion dollars being spent on free con-dumbs and posters on the sides of buses. >> > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 3 billion dollars being spent on free con-dumbs and posters > on the sides of buses. ============================ Around the world, it seems that the places that have controlled the spread of HIV the best are the ones who have educated their people. This education costs money. Attempts to impose narrow moralistic views about sex and sexuality on young people through sex education have failed. http://www.avert.org/sexedu.htm --------------------------------- A look at Australia, UK, NZ, Sweden etc with comparably low HIV infection rates compared to the US show that education is the key, so spending 3 billion on prevention is not a waste of money. It is cheaper in money terms that treating people who are infected. Here in Australia, there was considerable TV advertisement about HIV/AIDS, ones showing graphic details. Pamphlets were distributed using everyday language telling people of the dangers of this disease. Education about this disease was widespread. HIV infection rates around the world. Australia .1% Germany .1% NZ .1% Sweden .1% Denmark .2% Holland .2% UK .2% Canada .3% USA .6% (CIA Factbook) I wonder just how many of the people who suggest abstinence, actually practice it themselves? It is all very well saying do not have sex, if you are screwing like a bunny yourself (inside or outside of marriage) The desire for sexual relief is programmed into everyone. Not everyone is a Catholic priest who takes vows of celibacy, nor do most people want to. I am all for stopping the spread of this infection, so far it seems that education is the only thing that has any real impact, as we are still waiting for the research centres to find a medical solution. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > Around the world, it seems that the places that have controlled the spread > of HIV the best are the ones who have educated their people. This education > costs money. Yes it does, telling teens to abstain or use a con-dumb costs billions, lol. > Attempts to impose narrow moralistic views about sex and sexuality on young > people through sex education have failed. Not what you said above is it? > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Not what you said above is it? I have said sex education helps, it does not stop all HIV transmissions, and I agree that narrow moralistic views about sex and sexuality does not work, even if Bush and his cronies try and send it out as sex education around the world. "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message > A look at Australia, UK, NZ, Sweden etc with comparably low HIV infection > rates compared to the US show that education is the key, so spending 3 > billion on prevention is not a waste of money. I see you picked countries with a low nigger population. So yes, that does show a low infection rate. It is the faggots eating up their resourses of AZT. > It is cheaper in money terms that treating people who are infected. Indeed it is. So back to my origional question, How much does abstinence cost? > Here in Australia, there was considerable TV advertisement about HIV/AIDS, > ones showing graphic details. We don't allow 2 faggots butt-f.cking and smearing sh.t all over each-other on American television. > Pamphlets were distributed using everyday language telling people of the > dangers of this disease. Education about this disease was widespread. Boy the cost of those pamphlets, wow. I wonder how one slips a pamphlet over his dick to f.ck a stranger in the local sh.t house.........never mind, don't tell me. > "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So yes, that does show a low infection rate. > It is the faggots eating up their resourses of AZT. I picked Western Civilized countries, assuming that the US would was one........ >> It is cheaper in money terms that treating people who are infected. > > Indeed it is. > So back to my origional question, > How much does abstinence cost? Nothing and you get what you pay for. >> Here in Australia, there was considerable TV advertisement about >> HIV/AIDS, >> ones showing graphic details. > > We don't allow 2 faggots butt-f.cking and smearing sh.t all > over each-other on American television. I forgot I was writing to you, and of course by 'graphic' your thoughts immediately turned to sex. The ads were about death, one in particular was quite graphic, it was the character death (not you), with his scythe bowling down a bowling alley, and bowling people over killing them with AIDS. Another was about a guy in bed with a girl, and the question was posed who they were sleeping with and then the screen enlarged to show hundreds of beds with people in them, thus indicating that any one of these meetings could have caused someone to be infected. >> Pamphlets were distributed using everyday language telling people of the >> dangers of this disease. Education about this disease was widespread. > > Boy the cost of those pamphlets, wow. > I wonder how one slips a pamphlet over his dick to f.ck a stranger > in the local sh.t house.........never mind, don't tell me. Knock it if you like, but the cold hard facts are it worked here, and we have one of the lowest HIV infection rates around. You blame everyone else for the infection rate in the US, but the cold hard facts are that you have a high infection rate, and you are not controlling it. I tell you of a place that has had some success, and you knock it. You uses data to support your racial and homosexual hated, without looking at the bigger picture that this disease could wipe out the human race, but you do not care, as long as you can throw your poisonous bigot barbs around. > Martin wrote..., On 06/25/2007 08:32: >> <http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?n=1&neID=200706242170.1_22d80 [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > propaganda slogans at AIDS-infected fucktards and still expect to get > raises when those slogans are ignored. Disney should be paying a premium for all the HIV infections their employees and executives are responsible for. That's probably why it costs so much to go to a Disney park. You're paying for the medical costs of a bunch of diseased homosexuals. |
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