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Gays banned from donating blood
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Martin - 24 May 2007 01:55 GMT <http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=106&sid=1148466>:
"WASHINGTON (AP) - Gay men remain banned for life from donating blood, the government said Wednesday, leaving in place _ for now _ a 1983 prohibition meant to prevent the spread of HIV through transfusions.
The Food and Drug Administration reiterated its long-standing policy on its Web site Wednesday, more than a year after the Red Cross and two other blood groups criticized the policy as 'medically and scientifically unwarranted.'
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Before giving blood, all men are asked if they have had sex, even once, with another man since 1977. Those who say they have are permanently banned from donating. The FDA said those men are at increased risk of infection by HIV that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion."
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crack baby - 26 May 2007 16:29 GMT Martin wrote...
> <http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=106&sid=1148466>: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > increased risk of infection by HIV that can be transmitted to others > by blood transfusion." Don't forget that even if the HIV screenings were 100.0% accurate, that they still wouldn't detect undiscovered viruses. All the political correctness in the world doesn't change the fact that anal sex causes tissue damage that gives all sorts of viruses and bacteria direct access to the bloodstream, so it is possible that a new and unknown virus is currently circulating among the gay community, with an even longer incubation time than HIV.
Also, has anyone done a survey to see that IF gay men were permitted to donate blood, how many of them would actually be free of all diseases and thus eligible? I suspect over 50% of gay men are HIV+, and the HIV- half is surely teeming with hepatitis, syphillis, and maybe even hantavirus from all the gerbils stuffed up their a.ses, so I do not see any reason to waste time and money and risk the public health just to be politically correct and increase the potential donor pool by about three people.
bobandcarole - 28 May 2007 04:40 GMT TROUBLESPEAK 'Gay' activist says 'We will BURY you' Threats made against Christian workers opposing homosexual agenda
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: May 5, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern
A board member for Equality California has come out swinging at the Bible-based Capitol Resource Institute, which works on behalf of family and biblical values in California, especially among its lawmakers.
"If you continue your efforts, we will BURY you," said an e-mail from Ben Patrick Johnson, to his "colleagues" at the CRI, according to a statement from the Christian organization.
"For a group that purports to expand tolerance and civil rights, Equality California is not practicing what it preaches," CRI said.
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"This type of language evokes images of Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the podium of the United Nations when he declared that Communism would bury America," said CRI. "The irony is not lost on us - Communists squelch all opposing speech, just as the modern 'intolerance' movement seeks to silence all opposing viewpoints.
"Johnson then threatens 'we have every intention of yours [group] going down, as have others who oppose decency and human rights.' It is shameful that a group that represents itself as promoting tolerance and civil rights would stoop to the very tactics it accuses CRI of using. Not once has CRI personally attacked opponents in such a degrading and vicious manner," said the organization.
"In a video diatribe against CRI posted on his website, Johnson declares that CRI and its supporters are 'hate peddlers' and 'conservative, religious prejudice peddlers.' He further declares that we are 'smirky, self-righteous folks' who have 'launched an aggressive campaign against legislation to protect gay youth in California's and ultimately America's schools.' This statement reveals not only the vitriolic language this supposed 'tolerance' group uses, but also the true agenda behind such legislation as SB 777. The radical homosexual agenda intends on sweeping the nation. California is merely the first step in the campaign to stifle free speech and stamp out opposition to 'alternative lifestyles,'" CRI said.
As WND has reported, SB 777 is a plan that would require all public schools in California to eliminate anything that could reflect "adversely" on the homosexual lifestyle choice.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
It could mean the words "mom" and "dad" would be banned. It's a plan the California Assembly approved a year ago, but Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.
CRI said Johnson's attack included the e-mail and his webcast.
"After showing graphic images of a young man being beaten in Jamaica, purportedly for being a homosexual, Johnson ends his invective by proclaiming that it 'disgusts' him that 'the people behind CRI are so stuck in their fear and bigotry' that they would allow homosexual youth to be assaulted in such a manner," CRI said.
Officials at the organization attributed the invective to an appearance by CRI officials on Fox News Channel, when the biblical perspective on homosexuality was presented.
"As you can see, CRI is up against radical, aggressive individuals. To be spewing such hateful, inflammatory rhetoric indicates that they are fearful of the truth CRI communicates to the people of California and the rest of America. We should be crystal clear in response to the outrageous accusation that we want homosexual youth to be 'abused and degraded.' CRI believes that all children should be protected from violence in their schools. That is why it is essential to restore discipline and order in our classrooms. Pushing radical social experimentation will not stop intolerance or violence."
The e-mail from Johnson, according to CRI, said:
"Dear colleagues at the Capitol Resource Institute,
"I am a firm supporter of freedom of speech, and therefore I support yours, even if it in direct contrast with my own. However, we all use the media and the internet to spread our message: and with no hubris intended, I advise you -- if you continue your efforts, we will BURY you ... with public opinion, with media, and ultimately with legislation. EQCA passed NINE bills last year to protect basic dignities and we have every intention of yours going down, as have others who oppose decency and human rights.
"Today, over 150,000 Californians will receive the following message via email blast, MySpace, YouTube, and iTunes -- in other words, we're everywhere. I invite you to subscribe to my daily webcast, not because you agree with what I/we have to say, but for your own information ... so you can see what thousands of Californians are hearing and seeing about you."
An earlier description of SB 777 from CRI noted that it "forcibly thrusts young school children into dealing with sexual issues, requiring that homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality be taught in a favorable light."
"Pushing this radical homosexual agenda in California schools will stifle the truth in favor of political correctness and will inevitably conflict with the religious and moral convictions of both students and parents," said CRI Executive Director Karen England. "The full ramifications of this sweeping legislation could affect the entire nation as most textbook companies tailor their material to their number one purchaser: California."
John D. Wentzky - 28 May 2007 05:29 GMT > TROUBLESPEAK > 'Gay' activist says 'We will BURY you' Meaning they plan on infecting non-gays with their letahl diseases. Time to eliminate the lethal threat of gays in the USA! Exile or execute. How else do we eliminate this lethal threat the gays are threatenng the people with? Run CA out of the Union if they do NOT stop committing treason against the Constitution of the USA.
> Threats made against Christian workers opposing homosexual agenda > [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > nation as most textbook companies tailor their material to their > number one purchaser: California." egbssmellysox@googlemail.com - 28 May 2007 12:09 GMT > All the political > correctness in the world doesn't change the fact that anal sex Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole?
Martin - 28 May 2007 15:45 GMT >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are.
Which may not be surprising when you consider where the 'male G-spot' is located and that many wives and girlfriends may not want to go there. :)
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egbssmellysox@googlemail.com - 28 May 2007 16:06 GMT > >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is located and that many wives and girlfriends may not want to go > there. :) Yep, I know. I've mentioned it before myself.
But all these "straight" people feign ignorance. :)
bobandcarole - 28 May 2007 16:18 GMT > >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > > 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop is what the turd burglars are known for.
Martin - 28 May 2007 17:01 GMT >>> Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > is what the turd burglars are known for. You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason?
Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 28 May 2007 17:29 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from all replies to this thread.
> >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > > is what the turd burglars are known for. > > You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason? Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 28 May 2007 17:30 GMT > >>> Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? Please remove alt.vampyres from replies to this thread.
> >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > > is what the turd burglars are known for. > > You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason? Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 28 May 2007 17:45 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from followups.
> >>> Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason? Al Klein - 29 May 2007 02:47 GMT >>>> Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? >>> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason? You proved HIS point, Martin. Gaybob is far more obsessed with anal sex than straight men are.
bob&carole - 29 May 2007 12:19 GMT > >>> Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You seem to be very obsessed about it Bob. What's your reason? You seen to be lacking a valid response, what's your reason?
Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 29 May 2007 14:39 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread
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bob&carole - 29 May 2007 14:57 GMT On May 29, 9:39�am, Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread > > snip You seen to be lacking a valid response, what's your reason?
Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 29 May 2007 15:08 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread.
> On May 29, 9:39?am, Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You seen to be lacking a valid response, what's your reason? bobandcarole - 29 May 2007 15:10 GMT On May 29, 10:08?am, Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You seen to be lacking a valid response, what's your reason?
bobandcarole - 29 May 2007 15:10 GMT On May 29, 10:08?am, Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > ? snip You seen to be lacking a valid response, what's your reason?
Death - 29 May 2007 15:58 GMT <Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread Are you sure it is blood you suck? Your rote faggot crossposting whine is showing.
bob&carole - 29 May 2007 22:04 GMT > <Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread > > Are you sure it is blood you suck? > Your rote faggot crossposting whine is showing. Coming from a group with subjects like:
'Uses of blood in food'.
This one's a hoot.... 'Cooking with human blood'
"I'm a vampire chef and in my opinion, just biting and drinking blood is kind of boring. True vampire gourmets like me will cook and serve many different dishes made from delicious human blood"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vampyres/msg/4297b085aa4ff541?
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Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 29 May 2007 22:35 GMT Thanks for falling into the trap. We feed on trolls like you. Keep the spam coming. It's very refreshing.
> > <Alt.Vampy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > . Death - 30 May 2007 17:50 GMT <Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Thanks for falling into the trap. We feed on trolls like you. Keep the > spam coming. It's very refreshing. LOL, that lame attempt to cover your whining a.s won't fly. You spammed this group far too many times and left too many tears behind.
I'd wager the only blood you suck is off a faggots a.shole.
Brian Mailman - 30 May 2007 19:13 GMT > Thanks for falling into the trap. We feed on trolls like you. Keep the > spam coming. It's very refreshing. If your news reader doesn't support kill file/filters, and you can't kill a thread by the Subject line, then ask your news provider to stop accepting messages from their peers that are crossposted between alt.vampyres and misc.health.aids.
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Death - 30 May 2007 20:32 GMT > > Thanks for falling into the trap. We feed on trolls like you. Keep the > > spam coming. It's very refreshing. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > accepting messages from their peers that are crossposted between > alt.vampyres and misc.health.aids. Kewl crossposting job there mailman. You slipped that by without him even noticing.
Death - 30 May 2007 17:41 GMT "bob&carole" <bobandcarole05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "I'm a vampire chef and in my opinion, just biting and > drinking blood is kind of boring. Sounds like he uses his face as a kotex.
bob&carole - 31 May 2007 15:38 GMT > "bob&carole" <bobandcarol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > "I'm a vampire chef and in my opinion, just biting and > > drinking blood is kind of boring. > > Sounds like he uses his face as a kotex. A correct assumption I'm sure.......
Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 28 May 2007 17:28 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from any further replies to this thread.
> > >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > > > 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > is what the turd burglars are known for. egbssmellysox@googlemail.com - 28 May 2007 17:55 GMT > > >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? > > > 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > is what the turd burglars are known for. You provided the proof yourself, "straight" boy. :)
RevWeenee@hotmail.com - 28 May 2007 18:33 GMT PLease remove alt.vampyres from this thread
On May 28, 11:55 am, egbssmelly...@googlemail.com wrote:
Martin - 28 May 2007 18:01 GMT >>>Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole?
>>'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are.
>Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop >is what the turd burglars are known for. Do my experiences count?
I haven't been on the open market for about fourteen years, however when I was a sex addict I noticed that 'straight men' were far more interested in bum sex than gay men.
This may have been an HIV issue. Perhaps 'straight men' considered themselves at less 'risk.'
I suppose it is arguable that 'straight men' who want cock (and other things) up their arse aren't really 'straight,' but that's how they describe themselves.
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Death - 29 May 2007 16:08 GMT "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message
> I suppose it is arguable that 'straight men' who want cock (and other > things) up their arse aren't really 'straight,' but that's how they > describe themselves. As do down-low niggers who take it up the a.s. Straight men do not take a dick up the a.s or butt-f.ck another male.
RamRod Sword of Baal - 29 May 2007 21:26 GMT > "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Straight men do not take a dick up the a.s or butt-f.ck > another male. You do not know much about straight men :-)
bobandcarole - 29 May 2007 23:21 GMT On May 29, 4:26?pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com> wrote:
> > "Martin" <mar...@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You do not know much about straight men :-) LMAO!! you're a k00k as well as a faggot
Death - 30 May 2007 17:53 GMT > > "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You do not know much about straight men :-) I know enough not to confuse them with take it up the a.s bisexuals and faggots.
RamRod Sword of Baal - 30 May 2007 23:43 GMT >> > "Martin" <martin@hiv-poz.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I know enough not to confuse them with take it up the a.s bisexuals > and faggots. Do not worry, we will educate you.
RamRod Sword of Baal - 31 May 2007 00:59 GMT "> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> news:PZh7i.7771$xu.7248@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I know enough not to confuse them with take it up the a.s bisexuals > and faggots. BTW how do YOU know which is which?
Death - 31 May 2007 02:52 GMT "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod@truth_only.com>
> "> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > > > I know enough not to confuse them with take it up the a.s bisexuals > > and faggots. > > BTW how do YOU know which is which? They are the ones being drug behind a truck? lol
Tom S - 28 May 2007 18:02 GMT >> >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? >> >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > >Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop >is what the turd burglars are known for. And where did you become such an expert on "packing poop", GayBlob?
Tom S.
Thomas Keske - 29 May 2007 03:31 GMT Blood, did you say?
Yes, I would say that the whole situation is so sick, irrational and far-gone that it is difficult to imagine it ending with anything but a great deal of blood.
The problem suggests the solution. Petty dehumanization as official government policy does not deserve to end well.
Tom Keske
>> >Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? >> >> 'Straight' men are far more obsessed with bum sex than gay men are. > > Cites? Any proof to back that ridiculous statement? Packing poop > is what the turd burglars are known for. Alt.Vampyres@hotmail.com - 29 May 2007 03:42 GMT Please remove alt.vampyres from this thread.
> Tom Keske crack baby - 28 May 2007 15:48 GMT egbssmellysox@googlemail.com wrote...
>>All the political >>correctness in the world doesn't change the fact that anal sex > > Why are all you people obsessed with taking it up the arsehole? Although I'm gay, I find anal sex to be a total turnoff. I don't watch gay porn for that reason, and even the tons of straight porn I have still has too many "back door" scenes. To me, taking it in the a.s just seems to be so degrading, and having sh.t smeared all over one's cock just seems so incredibly disgusting.
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Martin - 28 May 2007 18:14 GMT >Although I'm gay, I find anal sex to be a total turnoff. I don't >watch gay porn for that reason, and even the tons of straight >porn I have still has too many "back door" scenes. To me, taking >it in the a.s just seems to be so degrading, and having sh.t >smeared all over one's cock just seems so incredibly disgusting. Are you really gay? You seem to find just about every part of (gay) sex distasteful.
Perhaps you're one of those people who prefer to watch.
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crack baby - 29 May 2007 15:51 GMT Martin wrote..., On 05/28/2007 10:14:
>>Although I'm gay, I find anal sex to be a total turnoff. I don't >>watch gay porn for that reason, and even the tons of straight [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Are you really gay? You seem to find just about every part of (gay) > sex distasteful. I really am gay, and I happen to find HIV distasteful. I seem to be the only one with this attitude, every other gay man in America seems to be either a bugchaser or a giftgiver, or at least just so f.cking retarded and drug-addled that he is blissfully unaware of what he is doing. If you somehow managed to magically eliminate the HIV virus from the gay population, you would still be left with a bunch of drug-addled and completely insane people, and I don't find that to be sexually-arousing either.
> Perhaps you're one of those people who prefer to watch. Church of Euthanasia "I Like to Watch" (offensive 9/11 music video) http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/catalog/video.html
Martin - 30 May 2007 00:16 GMT >Martin wrote..., On 05/28/2007 10:14: >> Are you really gay? You seem to find just about every part of (gay) >> sex distasteful.
>I really am gay, and I happen to find HIV distasteful. I seem to be >the only one with this attitude, every other gay man in America seems [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >drug-addled and completely insane people, and I don't find that to be >sexually-arousing either. But are you sure you're really gay?
I wonder if you've chosen the gay option because you don't find fanny fun very appealing, so being gay appears to be your only other choice.
Anyway, I think your description of gay life is stereotypical and probably describes only a very small portion of 'gays.' Your world of HIV infected, sex obsessed, drugs addicts is not one I recognise of gay life. I think it is true that gay men often have more sexual partners and more sex than their heterosexual counterparts, but I've always thought that was one advantage we have over 'straight' men who have to contend with the different expectations of men and women.
Perhaps you're stuck in an unrepresentative microcosm of gay life and you need to break out and cast your net farther.
Or, perhaps, your real problem is that no one is interested in having sex or a relationship with you, and you've created this fairytale gay world to convince yourself that everyone else has a problem and not you.
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