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HIV Positive - 04 May 2007 00:16 GMT

Hmmm, looks like it's only a matter of time before the 'experts' have
to invent HIV-3 to explain what's happening in Pakistan.

For some odd reason HIV there seems to target poor, ignorant, women.

Unfortunately this article is very poorly written, but it suggests
that women are at a greater risk of "HIV-AIDS infection due to
biological" circumstances, which presumably means because they are,
erm, women. This seems at odds with HIV-1 which targets gays, drug
users and other 'low life.' And sloth-like HIV-2 which targets all
poor heterosexual blacks in Africa.

<http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=54268>:

"Dr Muhammad Nasir Khan, Federal Minister for Health, has said that
women in Pakistan face greater risk of HIV-AIDS infection due to
biological and social circumstances.

[...]

He said youth in India are suffering from moral decline. Referring to
sex workers, he said that more responsibility lies on the shoulders of
women. Dr Aldo Landi from UNAIDS said every day we get 49 new HIV-AIDS
cases and women constitute more than 50 per cent in this group. He
said 50 per cent of HIV victims are not married. He said HIV spread is
also linked with poverty and ignorance."

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GMCarter - 04 May 2007 10:38 GMT

>Hmmm, looks like it's only a matter of time before the 'experts' have
>to invent HIV-3 to explain what's happening in Pakistan.
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>users and other 'low life.' And sloth-like HIV-2 which targets all
>poor heterosexual blacks in Africa.

Wow. You are incredibly ignorant. HIV-1 as a global pandemic is
largely transmitted through heterosexual sex. Sharing injection drug
equipment and anal sex (between two men or man and woman) are also
common modes of transmission, of course.

You just love to make stuff up? Your "criticisms" are that of a
petulant and stange child. They bear no real or genuine substance;
sorta like Bush saying "heckuva job, Gonzo" after he says over and
over I don't recall. No "there" there, dear.

George M. Carter

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HIV Positive - 04 May 2007 21:05 GMT

>Wow. You are incredibly ignorant. HIV-1 as a global pandemic is
>largely transmitted through heterosexual sex. Sharing injection drug
>equipment and anal sex (between two men or man and woman) are also
>common modes of transmission, of course.

We've been through this before. Weren't you paying attention?

Let's look at the UK's figures up until 2006. HIV probable cause of
infection, see <http://www.avert.org/stats.htm>:

Sex between men: 38,357 (45%)
Sex between men and women: 34,568 (41%)
Injecting drug use: 4,582 (5%)

(Sex between men figure includes 786 men who reported injected drug
use).

Now, think about the percentage of sex that occurs between men and
compared it to the percentage of sex that goes on between men and
women. And what portion of the population do you think is injecting
drugs?

Even if we forget about percentages and just look at the numbers your
argument doesn't stand up: 38,357 (sex between men) and 34,567 (sex
between men and women).

It is true that here in the UK, and probably elsewhere, there are more
new cases of HIV reported as a result to heterosexual sex than
homosexual sex, however the estimated US figures for 2005 seem to buck
that trend:

<http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#hivaidsexposure>.

And you only have to look at the sort of organisations involved in
HIV/AIDS or visit your local HIV/AIDS clinic to come to the conclusion
that it's still a 'gay thing.'

>You just love to make stuff up? Your "criticisms" are that of a
>petulant and stange child. They bear no real or genuine substance;
>sorta like Bush saying "heckuva job, Gonzo" after he says over and
>over I don't recall. No "there" there, dear.

Perhaps you'd like to explain what stuff I've made up.

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GMCarter - 05 May 2007 10:45 GMT

>>Wow. You are incredibly ignorant. HIV-1 as a global pandemic is
>>largely transmitted through heterosexual sex. Sharing injection drug
>>equipment and anal sex (between two men or man and woman) are also
>>common modes of transmission, of course.
>
>We've been through this before. Weren't you paying attention?

Feh. You spout bullshit.

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HIV Positive - 05 May 2007 12:51 GMT

>>>Wow. You are incredibly ignorant. HIV-1 as a global pandemic is
>>>largely transmitted through heterosexual sex. Sharing injection drug
>>>equipment and anal sex (between two men or man and woman) are also
>>>common modes of transmission, of course.

>>We've been through this before. Weren't you paying attention?

>Feh. You spout bullshit.

The information I quoted from Avert <http://www.avert.org/>, which is
a pro-HIV=AIDS=Death group, based on figures published by the World
Health Organisation is bullshit?

The information I quoted from the CDC <http://www.cdc.gov/>, which is
a US government agency and also pro-HIV=AIDS=Death, is bullshit?

Just a few days ago you labeled most people on this planet
"denialists."

And you've called *me* delusional!

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