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The reliability of the Western Blot "HIV test."

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monty1945@lycos.com - 20 Feb 2007 22:00 GMT
How many of you have heard of the study that found a great deal of
variation?

You can see it at:

http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=176
GMCarter - 21 Feb 2007 13:26 GMT
>How many of you have heard of the study that found a great deal of
>variation?

I wouldn't waste my time on clicking one of your URLs and risking
infection with internet bugs. Or perhaps just lethal stupidity
disease.

Why not share the data?
quintal - 23 Feb 2007 02:56 GMT
>>How many of you have heard of the study that found a great deal of
>>variation?
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>
>Why not share the data?

http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=176

bugs from a picture-display page on msn.com?
GMCarter - 23 Feb 2007 10:19 GMT
>>>How many of you have heard of the study that found a great deal of
>>>variation?
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>
>bugs from a picture-display page on msn.com?

I've never seen WB displayed like that--and from 1988?

This is your desperate effort to believe HIV doesn't exist? Or doesn't
cause AIDS? Or which, depending on where your poor little pea brain
leads you?

That is incredibly lame "evidence" to bet your life on.

David Pasquarelli took that bet and died of AIDS. And I fear Manto is
doing the same thing and will die of AIDS. I sincerely  hope she gets
treatment and feels better.

        George M. Carter
Death - 23 Feb 2007 17:59 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> David Pasquarelli

LOL, and with a poof of smoke the ghost appears.

Drugs or the lack of drugs didn't kill the genie,
faggot behavior did.
GMCarter - 24 Feb 2007 12:28 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
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>Drugs or the lack of drugs didn't kill the genie,
>faggot behavior did.

What will you think as you die?

How clever you were to be such an impotent, hate-filled, miserable,
lying coward?

Wow. What a marvelous legacy.
Death - 24 Feb 2007 18:26 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> What will you think as you die?

My last thought will be: I'm glad I didn't
elect the faggot way of life.
Doug Houge - 26 Feb 2007 08:00 GMT
> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>/Doug
Death - 26 Feb 2007 19:11 GMT
"Doug Houge" <d_houge@charter.net> wrote in message

> >>>No but you sure spend an inordinate time thinking about it.

I think alot about fishing too- but that doesn't make
me the captain of the Valdez.

>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> What will you think as you die?

>My last thought will be: I'm glad I didn't
>elect the faggot way of life.
Doug Houge - 26 Feb 2007 23:34 GMT
> "Doug Houge" <d_houge@charter.net> wrote in message
>> >
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>>>
>>>/Doug

>>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> What will you think as you die?
>
>>My last thought will be: I'm glad I didn't
>>elect the faggot way of life.
Death - 27 Feb 2007 01:49 GMT
"Doug Houge" <d_houge@charter.net> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
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> >
> >>>Of course the Valdez is not a fishing boat now is it.

Is that a question?

>>>>>Living in the past can be harful to oyour health.

You should revisit your past, say around the 6th grade
and pay attention this time.
GMCarter - 02 Mar 2007 13:46 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> What will you think as you die?
>
>My last thought will be: I'm glad I didn't
>elect the faggot way of life.

You think that's what your last thought will be?? Wow. That is just so
pathetic--what a sad little obsessive fellow you are.
Death - 02 Mar 2007 17:03 GMT
> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
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> You think that's what your last thought will be?? Wow. That is just so
> pathetic--what a sad little obsessive fellow you are.

If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question.
I know your last thought, .............David Pasquarelli
GMCarter - 03 Mar 2007 11:56 GMT
>> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question.

I didn't say that I didn't want to know--that's not the point, of
course.  

I'm just surprised at the reply. Partly because of its relative
honesty, partly because of what a pathetic obsessive person is
revealed by the reply.

>I know your last thought, .............David Pasquarelli

Possibly, but I rather doubt it.

My last thoughts, I hope, will reflect my joy at the opportunity to
have lived this bizarre and marvelous thing called life, working to
try to make life a little better and less painful for myself and
others.

Including, you may be surprised to note, even you!

LOL....futile, I suspect...but best of luck, dear.

        George M. Carter
Chris Noble - 25 Feb 2007 06:39 GMT
> How many of you have heard of the study that found a great deal of
> variation?
>
> You can see it at:
>
> http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=176

Have you read the paper? Or are you just blindly repeating what you
have read in "rethinker" websites?

Here is what the study says about this figure.

"Our use of blinded evaluation panels has demonstrated that there is
more than one combination of variables that will produce Western blot
tests of acceptable quality. For example, Fig 2 shows the reactivity
of a serum sample from a patient with AIDA tested with Western blots
performed by the 19 laboratories participating in the second
conference. All laboratories reported a positive result for this
specimen"

Despite the 19 laboratories using Western blots with different
preparations of HIV antigens at different concentrations, on gels of
different size and concentration, different blocking agents, different
serum dilution, different conjugates, different substrates they all
gave the same answer.

Remember these tests were performed blind. All laboratories correctly
identified this serum sample as being HIV+.

If you intended to demonstrate with this figure that Western blot
tests for HIV are unreliable then you have failed miserably.

Chris Noble
 
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