Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / February 2007
Effects of stigma and discrimination
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GMCarter - 30 Jan 2007 16:23 GMT http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/71h299544622028.html UCLA Study Finds High Rates of HIV Discrimination in Healthcare Posted on: 01/29/2007
LOS ANGELES -- The Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy released a study today showing surprisingly high rates of HIV discrimination by healthcare providers in Los Angeles County. The study reports findings from three "testing" studies of skilled nursing facilities, obstetricians, and cosmetic surgeons conducted between 2003 and 2005.
Overall, 56 percent of skilled nursing facilities, 47 percent of obstetricians, and 26 percent of plastic and cosmetic surgeons in Los Angeles County would not accept HIV-positive patients for services commonly offered to HIV-negative patients. For example, when asked if he accepted HIV-positive patients, one healthcare worker responded, "We try not to. I'm just trying to be honest."
"The large number of healthcare providers who would readily admit that they would not treat HIV-positive patients is surprising," said Brad Sears, executive director of the Williams Institute and author of the study. "Their responses indicate a broad lack of knowledge about the laws prohibiting such discrimination."
"While the United States has made great advances during the past decade in treating HIV-disease, this study shows that we lag behind in eradicating HIV-discrimination," said Lee Badgett, Williams Institute research director.
The new report is consistent with studies from the mid-1990s showing high levels of HIV-discrimination by dentists and other healthcare providers. Since the late 1990s, very few studies have been done to measure HIV-discrimination in healthcare.
The studies were conducted by trained "testers," third-year UCLA law students posing as either HIV-positive patients or as employees of organizations working with such patients. Using a script, the testers called the offices of local healthcare providers and asked if they would accept HIV-positive patients. The testers then recorded and coded the responses.
The three types of healthcare providers included in the study were chosen based on current medical needs of persons living with HIV/AIDS, including nursing care as the HIV-population ages, cosmetic surgery to address the impact of facial wasting, and prenatal care for women living with HIV/AIDS. The study focused on determining the percentage of providers in each area who had a blanket policy of refusing services to people with HIV/AIDS.
The study also provides insight into why healthcare providers refuse to see HIV-positive patients. Some providers justified their policies by their lack of expertise or medical equipment, the fact that they had never treated an HIV-positive patient before, or that their staff were inadequately trained or would "revolt" if asked to treat HIV-positive patients.
Many providers follow a blanket policy of referring all HIV-positive patients to other providers, most frequently by just telling them they need a "specialist" or to "go to a hospital." State and federal law require that such referrals be made on a case-by-case basis after providers have gathered specific information about the health and health care needs of the prospective patient.
"Many providers are refusing to treat HIV-positive patients and are referring them elsewhere in violation of the ethical rules of their own professional associations," says Sears. "In a couple of cases, the testers followed up on the initial referrals, only to be referred on again and again in a frustrating trail that ended with an absolute refusal of care."
"The study indicates that strengthening current laws prohibiting HIV discrimination may not be enough," says Badgett. "We have laws on the books already. The problem may be inadequate training of heathcare professionals about HIV-disease and their legal obligations, as well as a lack of enforcement."
The Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy advances law and public policy through rigorous, independent research and scholarship, and disseminates its work through a variety of education programs and media to judges, legislators, lawyers, other policy makers and the public.
Source: Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy
brainfart - 30 Jan 2007 18:42 GMT GMCarter wrote...
> "The large number of healthcare providers who would readily admit that > they would not treat HIV-positive patients is surprising," said Brad > Sears, executive director of the Williams Institute and author of the > study. "Their responses indicate a broad lack of knowledge about the > laws prohibiting such discrimination." But they do have a broad knowledge of microbiology, and they seem to think that their lives and the lives of their patients are more important than some stuffy paragraph buried on page 14,682 of the anti-discrimination statute.
The weird thing is that HIV and other viruses have no respect for human standards of political correctness and the anti-discrimination laws that enforce them. HIV needs to be re-educated to enlighten it about how it is no more contagious or deadly than diabetes, epilepsy, or blindness, so that hospitals won't have to worry about those with HIV infecting staff or other patients.
GMCarter - 31 Jan 2007 01:29 GMT >GMCarter wrote... >> "The large number of healthcare providers who would readily admit that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >important than some stuffy paragraph buried on page 14,682 of the >anti-discrimination statute. Apparently the do NOT have much of an idea about infection control procedures...which would make me reluctant to want them as healthcare providers anyway. They're probably lazy, shiftless money grubbers who wouldn't know an autoclave if it burned them on the a.s.
Death - 02 Feb 2007 01:29 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Apparently the do NOT have much of an idea about infection control > procedures...which would make me reluctant to want them as healthcare > providers anyway. They're probably lazy, shiftless money grubbers who > wouldn't know an autoclave if it burned them on the a.s. There you go. That is the correct answer. These people are lazy shiftless grubbers because they don't want to become infected with a dis-ease that has no cure. Real good Carter, just about what I expected from you.
Death - 02 Feb 2007 01:25 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Angeles County would not accept HIV-positive patients for services > commonly offered to HIV-negative patients. For example, when asked if > he accepted HIV-positive patients, one healthcare worker responded, > "We try not to. I'm just trying to be honest." Good for you.
GMCarter - 02 Feb 2007 11:28 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Good for you. Good for whom? That quote comes from an article, not me just to be clear.
And no. It's not good to discriminate--but that's what the sh.t healthcare system in the US has to offer I guess. Something to keep anonymous cowardly fascists like "death" happy!
Pathetic.
Death - 02 Feb 2007 20:12 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Good for whom? That quote comes from an article, not me just to be > clear. " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Good for you. Death - 02 Feb 2007 20:19 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> the anonymous coward wrote in message
> And no. It's not good to discriminate-- It is good to discriminate. Millions of dis-eased people should have been more discriminating.
GMCarter - 03 Feb 2007 11:12 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> the anonymous coward wrote in message >> >> And no. It's not good to discriminate-- > >It is good to discriminate. Millions of dis-eased people >should have been more discriminating. Yes, Dr. Mengele. Let's discriminate against giving health care to anyone. Surely, they're guilty of SOMETHING, ja wohl, mein herr?
They ate too much. They ate the wrong stuff. They shook hands. They had sex. They smoked. They drank. Oh dear. Dreadful, terrible awful people. Should just die.
Happily, they will! Just like you.
And you will die with a head full of the most enormous amount of sh.t. You must need Q Tips just to get a start digging it out!!
I hope you find some help before you do die, dear.
George M. Carter
Death - 05 Feb 2007 16:43 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Yes, Dr. Mengele. Let's discriminate against giving health care to > anyone. Surely, they're guilty of SOMETHING, ja wohl, mein herr? > > They ate too much. They ate the wrong stuff. They shook hands. They > had sex. They smoked. They drank. Oh dear. Dreadful, terrible awful > people. Should just die. Once again you attempt to bring in a straw-man to prove some silly sh.t you want to provide as some truth.
Res ipsa loquitur
GMCarter - 06 Feb 2007 00:18 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Once again you attempt to bring in a straw-man to prove some >silly sh.t you want to provide as some truth. That's what repugnican mini-fascists like you do--accuse others of precisely what you are doing! LOL...it's just pathetic in your case.
>Res ipsa loquitur Many diseases arise because of the way people behave. My thought is that it is more important to treat people. This is called "humane" treatment. It is also more often than not a lot more economically viable than laissez-faire, emergency room visit style healthcare that is costly, often ineffective and simply not worth it.
What you seem to prefer is that people should simply die. In which case, you should state clearly that, as a pseudo-fascist, it would make more sense to kill them outright.
That's internally consistent even as it is repellant. It is why we condemn people like Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin and other historical and present day a.sholes that think murder is a "solution" to problems, health or otherwise.
Thus, I point out that your philosophy of hate is one that is more a case of res ipsa loquitur--and indeed, as I have said in the past, clearly a diseased state of mind for which I wish you could find some treatment.
But you won't. And you will die with a brain full of sh.t. Your choice, dear.
George M. Carter
Death - 06 Feb 2007 01:25 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That's what repugnican mini-fascists like you do--accuse others of > precisely what you are doing! LOL...it's just pathetic in your case. I provided an example, I see you passed.
> >Res ipsa loquitur > > Many diseases arise because of the way people behave. LOL, res ipsa loquitur, the thing speaks for itself. Nice try though Carter, once again you become the fool
GMCarter - 06 Feb 2007 13:25 GMT snip
>I provided an example, I see you passed. Sure you did.
>> >Res ipsa loquitur >> >> Many diseases arise because of the way people behave. > > LOL, res ipsa loquitur, the thing speaks for itself. >Nice try though Carter, once again you become the fool You have no idea what the term refers to, do you?
You provide your own marvelous example!
Death - 06 Feb 2007 20:38 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> snip > > > >I provided an example, I see you passed. > > Sure you did. I see you removed it, how faggot of ya.
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