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cofi dre - 26 Jan 2007 10:41 GMT
I am researching into the public awareness of HIV in the UK, and
whether this awareness has declined since the early 1980's. I am
looking for statistics of HIV occurance in the 1980's in the UK but
have been unable to find a source.
Can anyone help by giving me some pointers?
Cofi dre
Doug Houge - 28 Jan 2007 01:19 GMT
In the godd ol' U.S. of A. (chuckle, chuckle) we have MANY government
sources (lol).  The Department of Health and Human Services, The Instutes
for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAAD), and the National Institutes for
Health (NIH).  Perhaps you have similiar sights which you can plug into back
in the GREAT Britain.  All of our institutions are great at keeping
statistics and demographics!

Doug
>I am researching into the public awareness of HIV in the UK, and
> whether this awareness has declined since the early 1980's. I am
> looking for statistics of HIV occurance in the 1980's in the UK but
> have been unable to find a source.
> Can anyone help by giving me some pointers?
> Cofi dre
brainfart - 28 Jan 2007 04:32 GMT
cofi dre wrote..., On 01/26/2007 02:41:
> I am researching into the public awareness of HIV in the UK, and
> whether this awareness has declined since the early 1980's. I am
> looking for statistics of HIV occurance in the 1980's in the UK but
> have been unable to find a source.
> Can anyone help by giving me some pointers?
> Cofi dre

I don't know about the UK, but if it's like the USA then you can't
really say public awareness of HIV has declined.  Everyone in
America is aware of HIV, but some groups deliberately ignore it
and it often gives the appearance of a lack of awareness.  The
usual proposed solution is to spend much more money, but as I
mentioned the various high-risk groups tune out the propaganda
because they think they're so f.cking smart.

It wouldn't matter if the UK spent a trillion pounds sterling to
strap every high-risk Briton into a chair, clamp his eyelids open,
and force him to watch graphic educational videos about HIV, it
wouldn't make any difference in the measured rates of public
awareness.  Think of it as a sort of brainwashing, where you can
explain repeatedly that two plus two equals four and provide
mountains of documentary evidence to prove it, and they will
continue to believe it equals five.
Doug Houge - 28 Jan 2007 20:13 GMT
When I was in the UK in ('94,) I wouldn't have said that there lacked an
awareness of HIV as much as an "it won't happen to me," attitude.  In the
U.S. we have many, many grassroots organizations eager to share their
information with.  Unfortunately, we also have many, many government
agencies ie; The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), National
Institutes for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAAD), the National
Institute for Health (NIH), as well as various organizations and agencies
throughout the country also vying for precious little fiduciary tidbits in
order to further each's own agenda.

In any event, you must have something akin to these in the U.K. who can give
all kinds of demographic information?

As I've stated earlier (in some other post), HIV is becoming a less
important issue here as we now are considering that AIDS can be treated as a
"long-term," "treatable," illness.  Our great country has seen fit to cut
funding for AIDS research as it is "just too expensive," and is opting to
spend those dollars (so it says,) on AIDS in Africa.  We apparantly are
under no mandate to find a cure for the disease since there is just too much
money in marketing the drugs that are supposed to be keeping people alive
with the illness.

...blechhhh.

Doug
> cofi dre wrote..., On 01/26/2007 02:41:
>> I am researching into the public awareness of HIV in the UK, and
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> mountains of documentary evidence to prove it, and they will
> continue to believe it equals five.
brainfart - 29 Jan 2007 18:00 GMT
Doug Houge wrote...
> When I was in the UK in ('94,) I wouldn't have said that there lacked an
> awareness of HIV as much as an "it won't happen to me," attitude.  In the
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> money in marketing the drugs that are supposed to be keeping people alive
> with the illness.

I know someone with HIV and am disgusted with their attitude that it is not
a serious illness, that it is just a minor inconvenience and consequently it
is not a big deal if you accidentally infect a few others as long as you
try to be careful most of the time.  His attitude is that he's so f.cking
great that any person in their right mind would naturally consent to having
sex with him despite the risk of HIV infection.  From his point of view HIV
is an advantage, the inconvenience of taking a few dozen pills a day is far
outweighed by the free welfare and medical coverage the government gives him,
so he feels no guilt at all in sharing his gift of HIV with others.  To be
fair, these crackheads I'm describing deserve what they get, but it is just
so damn expensive and the antiviral drugs compound the problem and increase
the cost exponentially in the long term.
Death - 29 Jan 2007 23:12 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> so he feels no guilt at all in sharing his gift of HIV with others.  To be
> fair, these crackheads I'm describing deserve what they get, but it is just
> so damn expensive and the antiviral drugs compound the problem and increase
> the cost exponentially in the long term.

The longer you live taking the meds, the better the drug companies
like it. It also insures a stable income so why not raise the price.

The democraps have yelled for years, lets see what happens now.
Doug Houge - 31 Jan 2007 04:18 GMT
You're right.  And I've been yelling it since 1987!

Doug

> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
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>
> The democraps have yelled for years, lets see what happens now.
Doug Houge - 30 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT
I know that you know this "crackhead" person.  But consider that a very
large number of us got HIV before we knew it existed and worked for many
years to pay into an insurance fund (Social Security) which is why we don't
have to live on the streets.  I cannot give you much better news than that.
:-|

/Doug
> Doug Houge wrote...
>> When I was in the UK in ('94,) I wouldn't have said that there lacked an
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> increase
> the cost exponentially in the long term.
Doug Houge - 31 Jan 2007 04:20 GMT
You're right too.  And I've been poreaching this since 1987.

Doug
>I know that you know this "crackhead" person.  But consider that a very
>large number of us got HIV before we knew it existed and worked for many
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>> increase
>> the cost exponentially in the long term.
cofi dre - 30 Jan 2007 21:43 GMT
> When I was in the UK in ('94,) I wouldn't have said that there lacked an
> awareness of HIV as much as an "it won't happen to me," attitude.  In the
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>
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Thanx for your pointers, have tried the government agencies etc but
cannot seem to get any ifo prior to 1990. It seems to me, from the
research that I am doing that the UK still has the same 'it wont
happen to me' attitude today as it did in '94.
Doug Houge - 31 Jan 2007 04:22 GMT
You're absolutely right. I've been preaching that since 1987.

Doug

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