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GMCarter - 17 Jan 2007 22:23 GMT
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/FF99AC48-540B-4180-AEA2-A0C4AC13EEBB.asp

Strains of TB are similar in HIV-positive and HIV-negative individuals
Michael Carter, Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Strains of tuberculosis (TB) in HIV-positive patients are no more
virulent than those in HIV-negative individuals and are gentically
similar, according to a study published in the January 11th edition of
AIDS. It has been speculated that the immune suppression caused by HIV
would allow HIV-positive individuals to become infected with unusual
strains of TB, but investigators in Burkina Faso found that this was
not the case and are calling for further research into this question.

The incidence of tuberculosis has been increasing in Africa since
1990, and in 2003 it was estimated that there were two million new
infections with the disease and 600,000 tuberculosis deaths. In South
Africa, 30 - 40% of all HIV-related deaths are thought to be caused by
tuberculosis.

Investigators have hypothesised that immune dysfunction caused by HIV
would lead to infection with “peculiar” genotypes of tuberculosis. To
test this hypothesis, doctors in Burkina Faso conducted a
cross-sectional study involving 120 patients with tuberculosis, 43 of
whom had HIV. The study was conducted in 2003.

For each patient, the strain of tuberculosis was genotyped using two
methods: interspersed repetitive unit-variable-number tandem repeat
(MIRU-VNTR; 12 loci), and spoligotyping.

They found that tuberculosis genotypes did not differ significantly
between HIV-positive and HIV-negative patients.

“It has been speculated that HIV/AIDS patients constitute a specific
niche for tuberculosis, in which less virulent strains could multiply
without selection pressure provided by a competent immune system. The
present results do not agree with these hypotheses”, write the
investigators.

A number of possible reasons are offered by the investigators for the
lack of genetic difference in tuberculosis strains between
HIV-positive and HIV-negative patients. In particular, they suggest
that the HIV patients could have had enough immune function intact to
effectively select infecting tuberculosis strains. An alternative
explanation offered by the investigators is that the HIV-positive
patients were experiencing an activation of tuberculosis acquired
before their infection with HIV when they were still immune competent.

They conclude, “studies such as this should be replicated or extended
before one can conclude that HIV-1-infected patients should be
considered as a niche for tuberculosis strains with particular
virulence or viral characteristics.”

Reference

Godreuil S et al. Genetic diversity and population structure of
mycobacterium tuberculosis in HIV-1-infected compared with uninfected
individuals in Burkina Faso. AIDS 21: 248 - 250, 2007.
brainfart - 18 Jan 2007 12:56 GMT
GMCarter wrote (quoting article)..
> Investigators have hypothesised that immune dysfunction caused by HIV
> would lead to infection with “peculiar” genotypes of tuberculosis. To
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> present results do not agree with these hypotheses”, write the
> investigators.

But this particular study could be biased out of concerns for political
correctness.  For the longest time TB has been a quarantinable disease,
with authorities permitted to physically detain the person until his
TB has been cured.  But when HIV came along it was decided that under
no circumstances would anyone with HIV be quarantined, no matter how
many others they already infected or planned to deliberately infect in
the future.

The problem arises because HIV makes you more susceptible to all other
diseases, including TB.  Quarantining you for TB means quarantining an
HIV patient, and since that isn't permitted, the global effort to
eradicate TB has waned in recent years.

A heretical sect of scientists had suggested that perhaps TB among HIV
patients should be a more serious concern, because the suppressed
immune system might allow normally less-virulent TB mutations to
proliferate and exchange their various recombinations with each other
and even other bacteria and viruses, until some sort of metamutation
arises that makes TB especially virulent and lethal and perhaps even an
entirely new species of bacteria that responds to no known treatments.

Such a scenario would lead to calls to quarantine AIDS patients, on the
grounds that their fashionable disease still poses a threat to the
general population because their bodies act as some sort of portable
biolocial warfare laboratory that invents new plagues and unleases them
on humanity.  This is an extremely politically incorrect idea, and this
study was conducted to discredit the heretical propaganda being spread
by counterrevolutionary agitprops and re-educate the public that TB is
just as fashionable and as politically correct as HIV, and that it
should enjoy the same civil rights as HIV.
Death - 18 Jan 2007 16:34 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> Such a scenario would lead to calls to quarantine AIDS patients, on the
> grounds that their fashionable disease still poses a threat to the
> general population because their bodies act as some sort of portable
> biolocial warfare laboratory that invents new plagues and unleases them
> on humanity.

More than 25 years after the first report of a handful of cases of a nameless deadly disease
among faggots in Los Angeles, there are more than 1 million persons living with HIV in the
United States;

about one-fourth of those with HIV have not yet been diagnosed and are unaware of their
infection. The "new" syndrome identified over 25 years ago has become one of the deadliest
epidemics in human history, killing more than 25 million people around the world, including
more than 500,000 Americans.

In the last decade, major advances in prevention and treatment for HIV/AIDS have prolonged and
improved the lives of many, but despite this, the epidemic is far from over.

The simple fact is this:

to defeat HIV and AIDS, we need to reduce the number of faggots who become infected.
GMCarter - 19 Jan 2007 11:41 GMT
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>But this particular study could be biased out of concerns for political
>correctness.  For the longest time TB has been a quarantinable disease,

It still is: quarantine can still be invoked where deemed necessary.
It just hasn't been perceived as being a necessary or useful
intervention for managing the disease for a very long time. So once
again, you spout your bullshit in a state of abject ignorance.

Typical of right wing cowardly homophobic bigots!!

See, just as a quick example,
http://academic.udayton.edu/health/syllabi/Bioterrorism/6Quarantine/PHLaw03.htm

        George M. Carter
brainfart - 19 Jan 2007 13:29 GMT
GMCarter wrote...

> snip
>
>>But this particular study could be biased out of concerns for political
>>correctness.  For the longest time TB has been a quarantinable disease,
>
> It still is: quarantine can still be invoked where deemed necessary...

Such as when a TB patient poses a threat to an HIV patient.  But I'm not
sure what happens in the scenario of a TB/HIV patient infecting an HIV
patient with TB.  Which patient's civil rights take precedence?
Death - 19 Jan 2007 15:35 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> GMCarter wrote...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sure what happens in the scenario of a TB/HIV patient infecting an HIV
> patient with TB.  Which patient's civil rights take precedence?

From the url:

The court readily disposed of the Constitutional claims on the grounds that legislative power
to enact "reasonable and proper restraints" for the public good "is no longer open to
question". It noted that the Fourteenth Amendment did not extend the Bill of Rights to the
States. The statute provided that anyone charged with a prostitution offense should be held if
they were found to be infected with a venereal disease. The court found that the law was
adequately supported by another statute which provided for the quarantine of any persons
infected with venereal disease, incarcerated or not.
 
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